Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
    edited January 18 Posts: 171
    There's good filmmaking on the table in the concept of starting small with the character miserable in the office and itching for something to do, establish the new regular crew, and then contrast that hopefully by the end with a series of near-unbelievable world-stakes events that makes Bond almost yearn to go back to his boring office. Audience should almost completely forget about London until Q shows up in a holiday shirt to kick off the third act.
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    In terms of whether to bring in some of the Fleming elements in films to come, and whether to bring in some of the elements of earlier films...From the books: I do not see what having May in the story would do for it. It could serve as part of establishing Bond as a creature of habit -- sometimes and for some things. He is that - sometimes and for some things - but those things may have been in the books because they were fairly normal and typical for someone of some means at the time. So, for a film in period, then perhaps -though the producers have refuted the idea of a film in period...so far. If set in the present day, nah. From the films: Bringing back Sylvia Trench ? It makes sense that Bond would have a relationship, focused on the intimate and physical aspects, when he is in London. Objectifying the lady would not serve well unless the producers want to go with a presentation of Bond as a guy who got a taste of upper crust life when in school, and cares primarily about his own pleasures. But even Fleming wandered off from a strict presentation of Bond as being that way. He respected the lady's life choices in just the third book, and he lived with Ms. Case for a while after the events of DAF, and appears to have been faithful. There were other instances wherein Fleming's Bond seemed interested in the leading lady as a person, such as in TB, where we are treated to a prolonged scene of Domino and Bond enjoying lunch together, though, certainly, her life story fed the plot, too. At any rate - there's room and materials for the producers to go with a self-centered, brutal Bond. I just think the films are due for a tonal shift, and it's time to go with less of an intense, brutal killer Bond.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I was a bit too young to remember what it was like during Daniel's casting, but was it as wide open as it appears to be right now?
  • edited January 20 Posts: 81
    IF you followed it closely it was. There were rumuors every day it seemed like about another actor and this actor and that actor. As we got close to the casting it started to dwindle down and there was this big deal about a final four which was rumuored to include a number of actors but we know Craig and Cavill were two. Rumuored for the other two were actors such as Alex O'Loughlin (Hawia Five-0), Goran Vinjs (ER) Sam Worthington (Avatar) and Julian Mcmahon (Nip/Tuck) among others.
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    parkert5 wrote: »
    IF you followed it closely it was. There were rumuors every day it seemed like about another actor and this actor and that actor. As we got close to the casting it started to dwindle down and there was this big deal about a final four which was rumuored to include a number of actors but we know Craig and Cavill were two. Rumuored for the other two were actors such as Alex O'Loughlin (Hawia Five-0), Goran Vinjs (ER) Sam Worthington (Avatar) and Julian Mcmahon (Nip/Tuck) among others.

    There were a couple of other names that came and went. Some very famous and some complete unknowns. I remember there was one who played a small role in that 2005 King Arthur movie, he was barely more than extra and apparently looked a lot like Sean Connery on some pictures. And there was the actor playing the villain in the third season of 24. Not sure if there was any truth to these rumours.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Thanks guys, it's interesting we're in this weird time were every leading man on any BBC show is linked with Bond.
    It's been the cycle for the last 4 years now
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Thanks guys, it's interesting we're in this weird time were every leading man on any BBC show is linked with Bond.
    It's been the cycle for the last 4 years now

    It was the same then to honestly.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Only in the tabloid press really, particularly in the UK. (Can't speak for elsewhere)
    The reality of the casting behind the scenes may have been a much tighter (and realistic) shortlist. So far as the press were concerned it was wide open.
    Names like Clive Owen, Sam Worthington (where has he gone), Ewan McGregor, the list went on and on and on. Every other day stories ran with the 'bookies odds are slashed' BS just like they do now. Even Robbie Williams was tipped at one point!! I actually think I was the only person not mentioned to be honest.
  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
    edited January 20 Posts: 171
    Did they announce Campbell before an actor? Will they announce the director first this go-round? That could give heavy indications as to what Bond they'll cast if, say, Ritchie or Nolan etc. are attached and involved in casting.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Campbell was involved in the casting and shot the auditions, I'm pretty sure he would have been publicly announced as well.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Did they announce Campbell before an actor? Will they announce the director first this go-round? That could give heavy indications as to what Bond they'll cast if, say, Ritchie or Nolan etc. are attached and involved in casting.


    If you're referring to Casino Royale, Campbell and the title of the film were announced in February of 2005. Craig was announced in October of the same year.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    I think a younger Bond/paternalistic M is the way to go next time around. A newly-minted Bond, which would also be a meta-commentary on the recasting.

    No need to reintroduce elements a la CR (and definitely not the Aston Martin). Bring in elements of LALD and MR, including a younger Leiter.

    I quite like this idea of a younger Bond and father figure M. And the villain as a distorted, perverted father figure.

    How about a younger Bond and father figure M, but the villain being a distorted perverted mother figure
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Thanks guys, it's interesting we're in this weird time were every leading man on any BBC show is linked with Bond.
    It's been the cycle for the last 4 years now

    As time goes on there'll be more rumours, probably lesser known actors. Extras in a film or a series, stuntmen, soap actors, what have you. I kind of hope some stage actors will be mentioned.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.
  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
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    mtm wrote: »
    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.

    I was totally opposed to Cavill as Bond re: carrying a movie until I saw him in U.N.C.L.E., and yet I feel like he has slipped back into seeming unable to carry a franchise again.

    I personally feel even Craig only has a truly commanding, consistent presence in two of his Bond movies.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.

    I was totally opposed to Cavill as Bond re: carrying a movie until I saw him in U.N.C.L.E., and yet I feel like he has slipped back into seeming unable to carry a franchise again.

    I personally feel even Craig only has a truly commanding, consistent presence in two of his Bond movies.

    I can almost always sense that Cavill is acting, and can see him contemplating his lines as he delivers them .

  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    I’d still push for Theo James and Nicholas Hoult as my preferred choices Tom Hughes as well, although his resume is mostly tv based. Very good actor though.
  • LucknFateLucknFate Arkhangelsk
    edited January 21 Posts: 171
    Benny wrote: »
    I’d still push for Theo James and Nicholas Hoult as my preferred choices Tom Hughes as well, although his resume is mostly tv based. Very good actor though.

    Theo seems positioned similarly to Craig by playing the love interest in a woman-led blockbuster franchise. He also just dipped on a show he's on that got renewed as I'm guessing he no longer is interested, or perhaps he doesn't want to put himself in a Brosnan box with a tv show renewal deal.

    From Deadline:
    Theo James, who portrayed Sidney on PBS’ Sanditon, has announced he’s exiting the series following the UK period drama’s surprise two-season renewal.

    James revealed the news Friday on social media.

    “Although I relished playing Sidney, for me, I’ve always maintained that his journey concluded as I wanted it to,” he wrote in the announcement on the show’s official Twitter account. “The broken fairy-tale like ending between Charlotte and Sidney is different, unique and so interesting to me and I wish the cast and crew of Sanditon every success with future series.”

    Sanditon was canceled by British broadcaster ITV back in 2019, but its ratings success on PBS’ Masterpiece prompted a cancellation reversal and a renewal for seasons 2 and 3, announced just yesterday.

    Rose Williams will return to play the high-spirited and independent heroine Charlotte Heywood. The series is based on Jane Austen’s final, unfinished novel and was developed by Andrew Davies.

    Sanditon is produced by Red Planet Pictures with Belinda Campbell as exec producer alongside Masterpiece’s Susanne Simpson and Chloe Tucker for ITV/BritBox.

    I looked it up and I can't tell if Belinda Campbell is in any way related to Martin, but if they are, they don't do credited work together it seems.
  • edited January 21 Posts: 328
    Benny wrote: »
    I’d still push for Theo James and Nicholas Hoult as my preferred choices Tom Hughes as well, although his resume is mostly tv based. Very good actor though.

    I don't know much about Theo James. What his acting like? He looks in great shape, is good looking and doesn't have a permabeard in all his photos.

    If he's a solid actor then I'll certainly back him along with Jack Lowden.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.

    I was totally opposed to Cavill as Bond re: carrying a movie until I saw him in U.N.C.L.E., and yet I feel like he has slipped back into seeming unable to carry a franchise again.

    I personally feel even Craig only has a truly commanding, consistent presence in two of his Bond movies.

    I'm surprised by that, I don't agree.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Jimjambond wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I’d still push for Theo James and Nicholas Hoult as my preferred choices Tom Hughes as well, although his resume is mostly tv based. Very good actor though.

    I don't know much about Theo James. What his acting like? He looks in great shape, is good looking and doesn't have a permabeard in all his photos.

    If he's a solid actor then I'll certainly back him along with Jack Lowden.

    Hoult. Lowden and James , as well as A. Turner, are three of my top prospects… at the moment.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.

    Now it's not mutually exclusive. And it's very possible that a person 8s better known on stage, but can very well do the transition on the big screen.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    "Well, we know Idris, we're friends with him, and he's a magnificent actor. And, you know, it's been part of the conversation, but it's always difficult to have the conversation when you have someone in the seat. So, you know, I think we have decided that until No Time to Die has had its run and Daniel has been able to - well, we've all been able to savor, reap the benefits of Daniel's wonderful tenure, we're not gonna think about, or talk about anybody else."

    Barbara Broccoli talking about Idris Elba from Deadline

    Not sure what to make of that to be honest, I think it's Barbara keeping her cards close to her chest but also acknowledging that nothing is off the table
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    "Well, we know Idris, we're friends with him, and he's a magnificent actor. And, you know, it's been part of the conversation, but it's always difficult to have the conversation when you have someone in the seat. So, you know, I think we have decided that until No Time to Die has had its run and Daniel has been able to - well, we've all been able to savor, reap the benefits of Daniel's wonderful tenure, we're not gonna think about, or talk about anybody else."

    Barbara Broccoli talking about Idris Elba from Deadline

    Not sure what to make of that to be honest, I think it's Barbara keeping her cards close to her chest but also acknowledging that nothing is off the table

    This surfaced the other day on a number of entertainment sites. It does nothing to imply that Idris is being considered . It is a gracious, sincere, measured, diplomatic response to a reporter’s question.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 21 Posts: 10,278
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I want film actors, they've got to know how to star in a film.

    Now it's not mutually exclusive. And it's very possible that a person 8s better known on stage, but can very well do the transition on the big screen.

    It's not mutually exclusive, obviously there are lots of folk who can do both, but it is a skill which has to be developed and I don't really want someone having to learn how to do screen acting whilst doing this particular job. There isn't time for that, they have to hit the ground running. They won't be picking someone who doesn't have a lot of screen experience.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing South Florida
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    Richard Madden or bust for me. Hell I'd even take Taron Egerton over Cavill, Theo James or any other actor.

    It's crazy how young actors look today compared to how they looked in the 60s. If I was watching DN or OHMSS for the first time and you told me that Connery was only 31 and Lazenby was only 29, I'd say you're crazy as they look and act so much older.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    "Well, we know Idris, we're friends with him, and he's a magnificent actor. And, you know, it's been part of the conversation, but it's always difficult to have the conversation when you have someone in the seat. So, you know, I think we have decided that until No Time to Die has had its run and Daniel has been able to - well, we've all been able to savor, reap the benefits of Daniel's wonderful tenure, we're not gonna think about, or talk about anybody else."

    Barbara Broccoli talking about Idris Elba from Deadline

    Not sure what to make of that to be honest, I think it's Barbara keeping her cards close to her chest but also acknowledging that nothing is off the table

    This surfaced the other day on a number of entertainment sites. It does nothing to imply that Idris is being considered . It is a gracious, sincere, measured, diplomatic response to a reporter’s question.

    They're celebrating Daniel's achievements in the role for the time being. It might've even been in the same interview, but I'm fairly certain Barbara mentioned the process hasn't begun on developing the next film. Purvis and Wade haven't started writing the script.

    I seriously doubt Eon would cast a new Bond and then begin developing another movie.
    Hypothetically if Idris were cast, he'd be roughly Roger Moore's retirement age when the movie starts filming in say, 5-6 years. Then if he were to remain in the role for 15 years (like Daniel), he'd be around 70 for his final outing.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger @!#¤%^§
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    "Well, we know Idris, we're friends with him, and he's a magnificent actor. And, you know, it's been part of the conversation, but it's always difficult to have the conversation when you have someone in the seat. So, you know, I think we have decided that until No Time to Die has had its run and Daniel has been able to - well, we've all been able to savor, reap the benefits of Daniel's wonderful tenure, we're not gonna think about, or talk about anybody else."

    Barbara Broccoli talking about Idris Elba from Deadline

    Not sure what to make of that to be honest, I think it's Barbara keeping her cards close to her chest but also acknowledging that nothing is off the table

    This surfaced the other day on a number of entertainment sites. It does nothing to imply that Idris is being considered . It is a gracious, sincere, measured, diplomatic response to a reporter’s question.


    Hypothetically if Idris were cast, he'd be roughly Roger Moore's retirement age when the movie starts filming in say, 5-6 years. Then if he were to remain in the role for 15 years (like Daniel), he'd be around 70 for his final outing.

    70 years old in his second Bond film! Think about it.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Jimjambond wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I’d still push for Theo James and Nicholas Hoult as my preferred choices Tom Hughes as well, although his resume is mostly tv based. Very good actor though.

    I don't know much about Theo James. What his acting like? He looks in great shape, is good looking and doesn't have a permabeard in all his photos.

    If he's a solid actor then I'll certainly back him along with Jack Lowden.

    Hoult. Lowden and James , as well as A. Turner, are three of my top prospects… at the moment.

    'Let's count to three, you can do that can't you?'
    ;)
    Not sure about Lowden myself. But the other three have potential.
  • mattjoesmattjoes What is the BUDANAYCHUR?
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    "Well, we know Idris, we're friends with him, and he's a magnificent actor. And, you know, it's been part of the conversation, but it's always difficult to have the conversation when you have someone in the seat. So, you know, I think we have decided that until No Time to Die has had its run and Daniel has been able to - well, we've all been able to savor, reap the benefits of Daniel's wonderful tenure, we're not gonna think about, or talk about anybody else."

    Barbara Broccoli talking about Idris Elba from Deadline

    Not sure what to make of that to be honest, I think it's Barbara keeping her cards close to her chest but also acknowledging that nothing is off the table

    This surfaced the other day on a number of entertainment sites. It does nothing to imply that Idris is being considered . It is a gracious, sincere, measured, diplomatic response to a reporter’s question.


    Hypothetically if Idris were cast, he'd be roughly Roger Moore's retirement age when the movie starts filming in say, 5-6 years. Then if he were to remain in the role for 15 years (like Daniel), he'd be around 70 for his final outing.

    70 years old in his second Bond film! Think about it.

    There is never a 70 year old around when you need one.
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