Dynamite's Bond comics and graphic novels

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  • Posts: 1,165
    The artwork in Kill Count #4 looked very rushed when compared to earlier chapters. I'm worried Dynamite are pushing their talent to unrealistic deadlines.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Agreed, while I was psyched when it came out due to large expectations, the story didn't move around much, either, and it indeed felt rushed, as did the artwork.

    This isn't looking good. Dark Horse Comics did the same 25 years ago and the Bond IP disappeared from comics for 20 years. I hope that doesn't happen with Dynamite.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 5,185
    Now lets not get ahead of ourselves chaps. One preview picture does not make a bad comic. I don't know who's idea it was to release that picture in the first place since it doesn't Show anything anyway. I saw it yesterday but didn't even think it was worth posting.

    I wouldn't say Dynamite is giving their Talent deadlines as a lot of them don't deliver on time anyway. War years is already delayed for almost half a year. Casino Royale should have been long finished by now (even with Calero at the Helm) and Ellis also never delivered on time. If someone needs more time, they always seem to get it.

    I agree the preview pictures of Solstice that we had before looked much better, so i rather stick to those for the time being, and wait till i have the finished product in my hands
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I sincerely hope you're right, mate. I think they're really planning on sticking with the license, since they did say a collection of one-shots was a possibility for publication.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 5,185
    I still think they are only getting started and its much too early to worry about that stuff. Of course they will have different artists working who have different strengths and weaknesses, as well as work mentality. Some might rush stuff (we already had guys like that, so i don't really need to mention names) but i don't think Dynamite is pushing too much. I think they are doing an admirable job so far. Sure the delays are pissing me off sometimes but it looks like they are due to the artists, not the publisher.

    But thats just my opinion and i haven't been around when Dark Horse comics crashed and burned with the license. I only see the aftermath with half finished comics now. So i hope we don't have to go through that again
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    I've fallen off the whole Dynamite Bond-thing yet again. Will have to get back into it around christmas. Don't know how that above image from Solstice compares to the later stories (I don't even know who the illustrators on these are), but compared to the stories I've read so far, it's possibly a bit rushed. Sadly, this is the case of more than a few American comic books. This is why I like French/Belgian comic books so much. Many of them are once a year-issues with fantastic and very detailed artwork.

    Just look at Youri Jigounov's artwork on the Belgian XIII-comics:
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    I don't speak French, but have made sure to get a few of these comics, just for the artwork. Back to the Dynamite books, there is some brilliant Bond artwork in these as well. Hammerhead – which is where I fell off, has some great, bold line work.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I've read the XIII comics religiously and am a huge fan of the franchise. It aspires what Jason Bourne wanted to be, and delivers a better storytelling by a wide margin. I started off with the 2003 Ubisoft video game that awesome to the core, second best spy game next to the first No One Lives Forever installment. Although, the TV series adaptation was abysmal.

    Now that I see some comparison, Aaron Campbell's work on Felix Leiter isn't different from the one seen in the XIII panels. :)
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 17,293
    I've read the XIII comics religiously and am a huge fan of the franchise. It aspires what Jason Bourne wanted to be, and delivers a better storytelling by a wide margin. I started off with the 2003 Ubisoft video game that awesome to the core, second best spy game next to the first No One Lives Forever installment. Although, the TV series adaptation was abysmal.

    Now that I see some comparison, Aaron Campbell's work on Felix Leiter isn't different from the one seen in the XIII panels. :)

    Didn't care much for the tv-series, either. The tv-movie made before that was decent enough.

    Totally forgot that there was a Felix Leiter spin-off! Will have to give that a read as well. :-)
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 850
    Yes there are good drawer in France and Belgium. My favourite art I think is an a Bond related comics : Spynest. Bond is not the main carracter, it is a girl and suprisely Ian Fleming (his cousin Christopher Lee is a carracter of this comics too). It is set in WW2 (and the story is awesome btw, and have been tanslated in english), and it's is the kind of thing I hope te see again in the Origin by Dynamite :

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  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    That Spynest looks really good!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I have the English version of it.
  • Posts: 17,293
    Spynest looks like an interesting one. Will keep an eye out for it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Yes, it's a must for every Bond fan, in my opinion. :)
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 5,185
    Yes it looks beautiful. I will look for it right away.
  • Posts: 17,293
    Yes, it's a must for every Bond fan, in my opinion. :)

    Noted! Wonder if it's available for digital copy – in English...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Spynest is pretty good, yes. There are a few things in that three-parter that Bond fans will enjoy.
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    That last issue of Kill Chain was a speedy, yet entertaining read. I'd have to agree with everyone that the Bond/Leiter relationship depicted in this issue was top notch!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Preview Image from Solstice. I don't know about you, chaps, but why does the artwork seem inferior to whatever we were shown of the entry before?

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    I've looked into the artist behind Solstice as I dug his style, but those do seem very different in visuals than the preview inks. Strange, but it's only one page. We'll have to see through other previews what develops. The artist did mention on his Twitter if memory serves that, as is common for panel artists, he had to find his style over the course of doing the pages before settling on a definitive approach. Maybe what we see above is his starting point, before finding his "Bond" style.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Preview Image from Solstice. I don't know about you, chaps, but why does the artwork seem inferior to whatever we were shown of the entry before?

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    I've looked into the artist behind Solstice as I dug his style, but those do seem very different in visuals than the preview inks. Strange, but it's only one page. We'll have to see through other previews what develops. The artist did mention on his Twitter if memory serves that, as is common for panel artists, he had to find his style over the course of doing the pages before settling on a definitive approach. Maybe what we see above is his starting point, before finding his "Bond" style.
    Agreed. As a self-trained artist myself (been a while since I last practiced, though), I could definitely see the struggle as I started mine by combining the styles of many of my favourite artists (mainly Paul Gulacy) until I found my own definite type. It's one thing to make one drawing in a stable style, and another to draw several panels that tend to represent a graphic novel. They're definitely not the same.

    Good observation, Braders.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'd be interested to see your work sometime, @ClarkDevlin. @Thunderfinger apparently dabbled in comic drawing too and I've yet to entice those drawings out of him for years now. ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7: Here's one, Braders. :)

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    ...back when one of my first concept artworks was a WIP, based on the characters of my planned book series.

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    Of course, there are others. Not based on my work, just simple portraits and character designs. Some of them are still incomplete.

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Nice, @ClarkDevlin! You should start your own thread for your art and writing.

    I did a lot of the same things when I was younger, doing character designs and putting together random comics or comedy sketches with drawings. I recently found some old sketchbooks I'd draw in during high school and they have a lot of my attempts at one page comic sketches with a dark comedy bent in them, and some other random things. It's funny to look back on work I did some 7 to 11 years ago.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Thanks, Braders! I plan to! :D

    Although, that won't be anytime soon since I'm caught up with too many schedules in hand, I might go back to developing my skills further in them and do a few comic book sketches.

    It's been a while since I did any character concept. Perhaps not since Summer '15.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thanks, Braders! I plan to! :D

    Although, that won't be anytime soon since I'm caught up with too many schedules in hand, I might go back to developing my skills further in them and do a few comic book sketches.

    It's been a while since I did any character concept. Perhaps not since Summer '15.

    Yeah, it's hard to keep a balance. I've got enough problems shifting from traditional art to graphic design, and those are just two styles! I've neglected painting and all the rest for a long while; probably too long.
  • Posts: 17,293
    The artist did mention on his Twitter if memory serves that, as is common for panel artists, he had to find his style over the course of doing the pages before settling on a definitive approach. Maybe what we see above is his starting point, before finding his "Bond" style.

    Do think everyone who makes illustrations, sketches or comic books for fun or professionally experiences this. Adapting to a style can be really difficult, even if it's close to your own style or not. I think it's a smart thing to try out different styles and approaches though, as you can only become better by doing so. If you're an illustrator adapting to a style while making monthly comic book issues, one can only imagine how challenging it must be...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Yep!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    The artist did mention on his Twitter if memory serves that, as is common for panel artists, he had to find his style over the course of doing the pages before settling on a definitive approach. Maybe what we see above is his starting point, before finding his "Bond" style.

    Do think everyone who makes illustrations, sketches or comic books for fun or professionally experiences this. Adapting to a style can be really difficult, even if it's close to your own style or not. I think it's a smart thing to try out different styles and approaches though, as you can only become better by doing so. If you're an illustrator adapting to a style while making monthly comic book issues, one can only imagine how challenging it must be...

    There's definitely a lot into it, even beyond the sometimes pressing deadlines. You've got to know what each character will look like and keep them consistent in appearance (and keep continuity if they are hurt/injured), make sure the light sources don't fluctuate too much, and find a way to panel a story in a way that makes it your own, despite so many influential artists who've done it before.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Royale got delayed to November 22. Full circle. ;)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Royale got delayed to November 22. Full circle. ;)

    That's just the latest delay. Be patient.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Royale got delayed to November 22. Full circle. ;)

    That's just the latest delay. Be patient.
    Oh I know. ;)

    Royale is not coming out this year, as I said.
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