Tarantino on TND and his version of CR

edited June 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 4,619
I've always liked to hear Tarantino talking about Bond and I just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urR-5fKINyc&t=9m30s
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  • Posts: 5,745
    Oh. My. God. He even predicted the black Felix Leiter! Or did they take that from him? ;) haha.

    Very interesting, though I'm glad he didn't do it. As much of a fan I am of him, I wouldn't want it set in the 60's. Or Pierce to return. I'd still be interested in at lease a script by him in the future, even if they modify the hell out of it it'd be great.
  • Hasn't this been discussed already?
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    Hasn't this been discussed already?

    This topic has been discussed many times, but this video is new to most of us I believe.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Tarantino got something very wrong, "he kills the woman he loves...". What? I love Tarantino films, but I often wonder if he is not hugelly overrated (including by me). I don't think that a Bond-film by him would work well. Yes, a lot of people would watch it, lot's of critis would probably praise his work and call it the second coming. But it would not be a Bond film, it would be a Tarantino film and die-hard Bond fans (both film but mostly book ones) like most of us are would most certainly hate it. Because the guy is a genre of his own, let's face it!
    Picking up where I started with this comment, the end of CR by QT would probably have Bond blowing up Vesper's head with a big gun, spater himself all over with blood and whatelse, and saying "The bitch is dead" with a mad-dog look in his eyes.
    Hasn't this been discussed already?

    Yes, and probably this will be shut in no time but the video was fun nonetheless.
  • edited June 2012 Posts: 5,745
    Sandy wrote:
    Tarantino got something very wrong, "he kills the woman he loves...". What? I love Tarantino films, but I often wonder if he is not hugelly overrated (including by me). I don't think that a Bond-film by him would work well. Yes, a lot of people would watch it, lot's of critis would probably praise his work and call it the second coming. But it would not be a Bond film, it would be a Tarantino film and die-hard Bond fans (both film but mostly book ones) like most of us are would most certainly hate it. Because the guy is a genre of his own, let's face it!
    Picking up where I started with this comment, the end of CR by QT would probably have Bond blowing up Vesper's head with a big gun, spater himself all over with blood and whatelse, and saying "The bitch is dead" with a mad-dog look in his eyes.
    Hasn't this been discussed already?

    Yes, and probably this will be shut in no time but the video was fun nonetheless.

    And this is where I get upset. Yes, he got it wrong, but he probably read the book as a kid, or didn't read it all, and that's his fault for messing up because he looks silly to us. But I think Tarantino would tame himself. Look at Jacky Brown, the film they were discussing.

    Its and adaptation of a book, and its extremely tame for a Tarantino film. He was true to the characters and didn't take the story to the extreme. Watch it, and read the book and you'll see what he does with source material.

    Now, when Tarantino IS the source material and he does his own work, yes he can get extremely.. interesting. But remember that Eon is always safe. A scripty by him would be rewritten by some other writer likely, and while the film would be drastically toned down, it would still have elements of Tarantino Bond almost needs. That being gripping scenes, with strong dialogue and visuals.

    Just because his original work is too much for some, doesn't mean he isn't aware of it. He's extremely aware, and when he needs to be tame, he is. Check out Jacky Brown, and you'll see that Jacky isn't a cold-blooded sociopath out for revenge. She's relaxed, and looking to set things straight for herself.

    You were a little ridiculous there at the end. How naive.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Like I said @JWESTBROOK I love Tarantino. I never read Jacki Brown so I don't know if the film is true or not to the source material. But no one can deny he is a genre of his own! The reason why he would never make a Bond film is because he would never be given enough freedom from the producers to make exactly how he wants it.
    And about the end of my comment, obviously I was making a joke with his mistake. Obviously the joke and irony got lost when I wrote it but calling me ridiculous and naive was ridiculous and naive of you.
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    I must admit Samuel L. Jackson as Felix Leiter does sound pretty amazing :D
  • Posts: 5,745
    Sandy wrote:
    Obviously the joke and irony got lost when I wrote it but calling me ridiculous and naive was ridiculous and naive of you.

    If your mistake was obvious, my comment would have been naive. But you failed at the joke, which you admit. I took you seriously, and seriously speaking your comment was naive. Had it come across as a joke I wouldn't have thought what I did. It came across as a lack of judgement.

    But in retrospect, if indeed you intended it as a joke, then yes I was naive. But looking back, your failure to make it come across as a joke causes it to appear to be a serious comment, so I wasn't naive.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    former french president Jacques Chirac had some adventures in the vein of Pulp Fiction.......

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    Sandy wrote:
    Tarantino got something very wrong, "he kills the woman he loves...". What? I love Tarantino films, but I often wonder if he is not hugelly overrated (including by me). I don't think that a Bond-film by him would work well. Yes, a lot of people would watch it, lot's of critis would probably praise his work and call it the second coming. But it would not be a Bond film, it would be a Tarantino film and die-hard Bond fans (both film but mostly book ones) like most of us are would most certainly hate it. Because the guy is a genre of his own, let's face it!

    And that is the reason Cubby never went for famous directors (and of course they would want a cut of the profits)

    Steven Speilburg approached him at the end of the seventies and was turned down flat. It would be a Speilburg film rather then a Bond film.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Sandy wrote:
    Tarantino got something very wrong, "he kills the woman he loves..."

    Wrong, Tarantino. That would be TWINE.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Casino Royale....with cheese.
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    I think Tarantino would've done a great CR. Nothing wrong with the version we got but Tarantino and Brosnan? I'd have loved it and I think he could adapt and be true to the source material like Jackie Brown.
    Sandy wrote:
    die-hard Bond fans (both film but mostly book ones) like most of us are would most certainly hate it.

    Speak for yourself. My favourite director and my 2nd favourite Bond actor, I think I would've enjoyed it.
  • Posts: 11,425
    I think Tarantino would've done a great CR. Nothing wrong with the version we got but Tarantino and Brosnan? I'd have loved it and I think he could adapt and be true to the source material like Jackie Brown.
    Sandy wrote:
    die-hard Bond fans (both film but mostly book ones) like most of us are would most certainly hate it.

    Speak for yourself. My favourite director and my 2nd favourite Bond actor, I think I would've enjoyed it.

    Tarantino directing Brosnan would actually have been very interesting! He would perhaps have brought out Brozza's strengths as an actor - an ability to convey moral ambiguity and a certain sleaziness.
  • Overrated writer and director - nicked all of his creative inspiration from Asia and the 70s. The guy is pants. So glad he didn't get his cheatin' lyin' paws on Bond. Setting Bond in the 60s? Yeah of course, another era he can plunder and loot. Twat.
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    Overrated writer and director - nicked all of his creative inspiration from Asia and the 70s. The guy is pants. So glad he didn't get his cheatin' lyin' paws on Bond. Setting Bond in the 60s? Yeah of course, another era he can plunder and loot.

    Maybe Tarantino "steals" from older movies but it's a fact that he's a brilliant writer.

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    Overrated writer and director - nicked all of his creative inspiration from Asia and the 70s. The guy is pants. So glad he didn't get his cheatin' lyin' paws on Bond. Setting Bond in the 60s? Yeah of course, another era he can plunder and loot. Twat.

    I'm inclined to agree, although Pulp Fiction is a very good film.
  • Overrated writer and director - nicked all of his creative inspiration from Asia and the 70s. The guy is pants. So glad he didn't get his cheatin' lyin' paws on Bond. Setting Bond in the 60s? Yeah of course, another era he can plunder and loot.

    Maybe Tarantino "steals" from older movies but it's a fact that he's a brilliant writer.


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  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Never, never, never would I see a Bond film by Quentin Tarantino. Uma Thurman as Vesper Lynd is the main factor. I hate Uma Thurman about as much as I hate Shirley Bassey, and that is well-documented.
  • Posts: 5,745
    Never, never, never would I see a Bond film by Quentin Tarantino. Uma Thurman as Vesper Lynd is the main factor. I hate Uma Thurman about as much as I hate Shirley Bassey, and that is well-documented.

    Can you justify your hate? You don't have to, but I'm curious what Uma has done.
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    Never mind Kill Bill - it would kill the franchise..

    Never been a fan of the guy, seems a bit of an ass sometimes, Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs were good work but right off the bat, something just doesn't feel right about having Tarantino as a future Bond director, I think we should just look elsewhere, sincerely hope this never occurs
  • Posts: 5,745
    Never mind Kill Bill - it would kill the franchise..

    Never been a fan of the guy, seems a bit of an ass sometimes, Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs were good work but right off the bat, something just doesn't feel right about having Tarantino as a future Bond director, I think we should just look elsewhere, sincerely hope this never occurs

    What about co-writing a Bond film?
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    well there's always that, but I'm thinking Tarantino should just divorce himself from the Bond series altogether, it's not like I have an issue with the man, not my favorite director I can say, but it just doesn't seem appropriate him being involved with 007 in any capacity, but you know what, if they did go ahead with anything, be it as co-writer or in the directors chair, it would be interesting, but not really something I hope ever goes ahead
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    Tarantino doing a Bond movie. I'm glad that did not happen.
    Tarantino is a good writer and he really does a great job with dialogue. But its all American street talk and slang. I love the dialogue in Reservoir Dogs and all his movies after that.
    Writing is difficult and not at all easy. With screenplays one really has to have a feel for dialogue, visually writing and "voice". Tanantino has all these down but again the fact that he is American and his humor or dialogue would be out of place in a Bond movie.
    Let Tarantino do his own secret agent stuff and stay away from Fleming.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Never, never, never would I see a Bond film by Quentin Tarantino. Uma Thurman as Vesper Lynd is the main factor. I hate Uma Thurman about as much as I hate Shirley Bassey, and that is well-documented.

    Can you justify your hate? You don't have to, but I'm curious what Uma has done.

    Well, normally I'd just throw Batman & Robin up there, but my real problem is that it just seems to me like she over-acts her parts, and that makes it hard for me to really enjoy her acting, or take her seriously.
  • Posts: 11,425
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Never, never, never would I see a Bond film by Quentin Tarantino. Uma Thurman as Vesper Lynd is the main factor. I hate Uma Thurman about as much as I hate Shirley Bassey, and that is well-documented.

    Can you justify your hate? You don't have to, but I'm curious what Uma has done.

    Well, normally I'd just throw Batman & Robin up there, but my real problem is that it just seems to me like she over-acts her parts, and that makes it hard for me to really enjoy her acting, or take her seriously.

    She has amazing parts, especially in Dangerous Liaisons.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Getafix wrote:
    She has amazing parts, especially in Dangerous Liaisons.

    I don't remember her from that film.... I studied it in class, and I remember that I quite liked Malkovich's performance :)
  • Posts: 11,425
    Getafix wrote:
    She has amazing parts, especially in Dangerous Liaisons.

    I don't remember her from that film....

    You must be joking?!


  • Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    She has amazing parts, especially in Dangerous Liaisons.

    I don't remember her from that film....

    You must be joking?!



    She had better parts in Henry and June...
    :P =P~


  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2012 Posts: 15,534
    Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    She has amazing parts, especially in Dangerous Liaisons.

    I don't remember her from that film....

    You must be joking?!

    no. she didn't leave me any lasting impression.
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