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I agree with you bro!
The fight in GE with Trevelyn was tops for Brozza and they just wasted so many great opportunities.
TND- with Stamper
TWINE- with Renaud and maybe even with Elektra. he could have had a good fight with her being the fact she was the main villian and a woman. (they were playing it too safe with this subject) Another wasted opportunity from the Brosnan days...
DAD- fights with Mr Kil and Graves/Moon were also blown opportunities
Agreed on all, except maybe the last one, because there were some pretty brutal punches thrown around during that fight, and I love how the plane is being torn to shreds. It gives that fight more tension and thrill. However, I did not like Graves' stupid electrocution defense thingy. It took away the brutality and shortened the fight just because Graves was too much of a wimp to actually fight fair. Still though, it's better than some of the other fights, but not too many.
That would have been 10x better than the gunfight with Whitaker! Would it still have been with Whitaker, or was it to be with Koskov or Necros?
Back to the thread topic, I was going to say that stupid long kichen fight between two men I don't know and don't care about in TLD. That was the nadir of the series to me. Let's have Bond drive away obliviously and let the stuntmen go at each other... LOL
You think that scene was the NADIR of the entire series???????????? I understand if you couldn't care for the characters but the NADIR?????? Really?????
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well its no secret, Brosnan just couldn't convincingly pull off the physical side of Bond (sans Goldeneye).. as Craig Ferguson put it "I could kick his arse" lol..... as much as my opinions on Brosnan as Bond have dipped over the years, I can still watch and enjoy his outings - with the exception of DAD - i need extra alcohol for that one, but GE thru TWINE I can throw on any time and enjoy.... but he never struck me as a Bond who was physical... after GE, he digressed into a Moore-style Bond.
You can use all the question marks you want, that's my opinion. As bad as any other fight might be, a big fight scene in a Bond movie without Bond is just stupid.
Once again, no matter how much one asserts their opinion it doesn't magically turn it into fact. Sorry. I thought Brosnan was perfectly fine at the physical side. Not a body builder, no...and I never wanted that in 007. He was lean and agile, with a certain - yes - grace and style. I'm more interested in Bond's ability to outwit and outmaneuver his enemies, not pulverize them. I also prefer a tall Bond, not a squat little guy with a Napoleonic complex.
Brosnan was more about style, charm, sophistication - on that we're agreed - and that's what I miss in our current "tough guy".
Having read all the comments I agree with most of them, apart from the OHMSS beach fight. And Brosnan was never convincing in a fist fight, which must have been a contributing factor as to why they gave him a machine gun to fire all the time.
The worst ones I can think of:
Connery vs Wint & Kidd in DAF- tacked on, played for laughs. They really should have kept with the eerie vibe of WInt & Kidd. Take the beginning for instance, sure they weren't the most threatening villains, but they had a certain creepiness about them.
Moore vs Karate Students in TMWTGG- Please- hardly needs explaining. He didn't DO anything!! The little girls and their uncle did all the fighting! If Lazenby was in TMWTGG, he would have beaten everyone in that damn dojo and then had sex with all the women!
Moore vs Jaws (all confrontations)- This may be due the how I saw the films to be fair. I had played GoldenEye on the N64 before seeing any of the movies. According to the 'Aztec' level, I had imagined Jaws to be a frightening unstoppable death machine like Jason Voorhees with guns! You must imagine my shock when I saw Moonraker (the first Bond movie I ever saw after GoldenEye) and I found the disappointing truth :(
Dalton vs Ninja in LTK- even though Timothy Dalton is my favorite Bond, I thought this fight was lackluster. BOND VS NINJAS!! It should have been a big deal, but instead, poor Dalton got his ass kicked and knocked around- and if not for the signature gun, he would have been shot too!
Brosnan vs Renard in TWINE- this gets my vote once and for all. I even remember seeing TWINE with my dad towards the end of its theatre run, and not many people were there; during that fight I heard a guy yell 'Come ON!!' as Bond kept getting knocked down, wheezing, pain-face, etc. Plus the whole time we had Denise Richards yelling in the background- 'If they something something something reactor.... JAMES!!'
But you know-- I can't even put all the blame on Brosnan for this one (though it's mostly him). I just recently watched Trainspotting for the first time and I was surprised at how INSANE and wild and animated Robert Carlyle was! He could have been better here too
Having listed these, I want to add that I liked ALL of Lazenby's fights and, to date, all of Craig's
whoa relax... not everyone is out on a witch hunt to sabotage your opinions.....
just be aware, that a normal debate might occasionally pop up when opinions differ - just a friendly heads up, because I've seen some of your other posts, and there are far more shall we say "opinionated" people out there on these boards...
i was in no way, trying to assert my opinion over yours - i was just trying to backup my claim - because what is an opinion if you cant back it up?.... that is all - it wasn't a slight on you, so relax a little ;)
you thought he was physical enough..... fine.
i didn't......... that is all, the end........ now lets move on.
Deserves a 'Horatio Comic' (complete with hideous 80's sunglasses)
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Was Moore really 57 years old in that 1985 release, he doesn't look too bad there actually
Incidentally Moore 'fight' at the Sutton mansion was the worst Bond fight of the 1980s, worst fight of Bond's tenure, worst James Bond film fight in the series, worst fight anywhere since the dawn of time most probably.
It was pretty lame
Otherwise, I thought my post explained my opinion perfectly well.
lol, i am very relaxed - and your post would suggest otherwise about yourself, because you still being very defensive..
when i said "it's no secret" it's because the vast majority of Bond fans, and those not so dedicated fans i've heard bring him up, usually for the most part agree that he wasn't a very physical Bond - not in the Connery, Lazenby, or Craig sense....... contrary to what you may think, i am not trying to squash your opinion..... just stating that there are plenty who do, and would disagree with you....... that is all - believe what you want man, i am not trying to rain on your parade...
and for the record - don't tell me how to state my opinions when i've been more than polite towards you and yours........ tolerating one's opinion doesn't mean you have to agree.
if so @Master_Dahark... then it's time to get ready.........
lol.. whatever you say sir ;)
It could well be one of the finest moments of Diamonds, St John threw the cake as probably a distraction, sort of an instinctive thing at the time, with Bond in trouble, any gamble is justified
Whenever the liner leaves port and we see Kidd and Wint at the windows we know we're in for a treat, it's genuinely amusing particularly the Mr Wint exit, 'ooooooooh, he left with his tail between his legs etc'. I dare anybody not to laugh
Yeah, I love that part where we see their faces at the windows. When I first saw DAF, I was thinking, "Oh man! I forgot about those guys!" It's always good to forget about the henchmen and then see them come back for a final battle. Too bad that Wint and Kidd's "fight" wasn't very thrilling. However, I like the music in that scene.