The things we want to return to the Bond movies.

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  • Posts: 14,319
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm buzzing through all of the Craig scenes in my head, from CR to SP, and I honestly cannot think of a single instance of him donning some form of garb like that while he is infiltrating a villain's headquarters/base of operations/etc.

    How about his black clothes in SP? And when he goes to see Mr White he has clothes inspired by the French army.
  • Why don't they use the 007 theme or bond theme or whatever the heck it's called? The iconic music of Bond. Have they lost the rights to that?
  • RC7RC7
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    Why don't they use the 007 theme or bond theme or whatever the heck it's called? The iconic music of Bond. Have they lost the rights to that?

    Two different things - sort yourself out Francisco.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 13,665
    Some good ideas being mentioned here.
    Whilst I'd be happy to see Daniel Craig return, I'd like it if he's not persuaded too if his heart isn't in it. Reluctant actors don't give their all.
    A new actor in the role would also allow for a shift in tone and story.
    A non revenge plot, involving espionage, a decent villain who does not know Bond and a Bond girl who does not work for any intelligence service. Keep the Mi6 stock company in London and hopefully get Felix Leiter into the mix as well.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    Why don't they use the 007 theme or bond theme or whatever the heck it's called? The iconic music of Bond. Have they lost the rights to that?

    Two different things - sort yourself out Francisco.

    Is the 007 theme the little nelly one. And the bond theme the one used in FRWL for searching his room?

    Anyway do they have the rights?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Why don't they use the 007 theme or bond theme or whatever the heck it's called? The iconic music of Bond. Have they lost the rights to that?

    Two different things - sort yourself out Francisco.

    Is the 007 theme the little nelly one. And the bond theme the one used in FRWL for searching his room?

    Anyway do they have the rights?

    The 007 theme



    The James Bond theme



    The composers use them less frequently as the John Barry estate is paid royalties rather than the composer seeing any cash. No rights issues.
  • Great, so we won't get them ever again, because of impoverished composers. Newman's score's have been absolutely shite, he just does some generic dross and turns up for the pay cheque.
  • Posts: 92
    It should be made a requirement for them to use/adapt them!!
  • Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.
  • RC7RC7
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    They were waiting for another train.

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    Daniel craig
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.
  • Daniel craig

    Why? He's in danger of falling into Roger's dirty old man trap.

    Bond should be placed by someone in their 30's or 40's, and he shouldn't deride Bond as a misogynist as Craig has.

    Craig think Bond should be PC - time to eject.
  • RC7RC7
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.

    My assumption was that they were waiting for another train, they don't expect the car.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2016 Posts: 9,117
    RC7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.

    My assumption was that they were waiting for another train, they don't expect the car.

    Waiting for another train to go where?

    They know the coordinates of the base from Mr White's aged computer so you'd like to think they've also noticed no train tracks go there.

    In any event there's only one train line so where is the next train going to go that the original one wasn't?

    Perhaps they are just waiting for the next one because the conductor booted them off at the next station for smashing up half the train?

    I can understand how it works from Blofeld's end - he is either sending the car to pick up Hinx or he has access to the smart blood and knows Bond is coming his way (presumably the reason he sent Hinx to kill them on the train. But then doesn't he want Bond alive so he can taunt him? In which case why send Hinx at all? Beats me) but what is Bond's reasoning for sitting at a deserted station in the desert?

    As usual with SP's script when you ask a simple question you end up with more questions than answers.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.

    My assumption was that they were waiting for another train, they don't expect the car.

    Waiting for another train to go where?

    They know the coordinates of the base from Mr White's aged computer so you'd like to think they've also noticed no train tracks go there.

    In any event there's only one train line so where is the next train going to go that the original one wasn't?

    Perhaps they are just waiting for the next one because the conductor booted them off at the next station for smashing up half the train?

    I can understand how it works from Blofeld's end - he is either sending the car to pick up Hinx or he has access to the smart blood and knows Bond is coming his way (presumably the reason he sent Hinx to kill them on the train. But then doesn't he want Bond alive so he can taunt him? In which case why send Hinx at all? Beats me) but what is Bond's reasoning for sitting at a deserted station in the desert?

    As usual with SP's script when you ask a simple question you end up with more questions than answers.

    I just assumed they were switching lines to get to closer to the location. It stops at a station, which suggests you can get multiple trains from there, otherwise why have a station? It's in the middle of nowhere. Blofeld clearly knows where they are, but they don't know he does. Honestly, it seemed pretty reasonable to me. They're clearly surprised when the Phantom rocks up.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.

    My assumption was that they were waiting for another train, they don't expect the car.

    Waiting for another train to go where?

    They know the coordinates of the base from Mr White's aged computer so you'd like to think they've also noticed no train tracks go there.

    In any event there's only one train line so where is the next train going to go that the original one wasn't?

    Perhaps they are just waiting for the next one because the conductor booted them off at the next station for smashing up half the train?

    I can understand how it works from Blofeld's end - he is either sending the car to pick up Hinx or he has access to the smart blood and knows Bond is coming his way (presumably the reason he sent Hinx to kill them on the train. But then doesn't he want Bond alive so he can taunt him? In which case why send Hinx at all? Beats me) but what is Bond's reasoning for sitting at a deserted station in the desert?

    As usual with SP's script when you ask a simple question you end up with more questions than answers.

    All this, yes that's right. The logic in all that just astounds me. You're on a secret mission, but you BRING YOUR LUGGAGE ALONG WITH YOU?

    He knows the coordinates, yet PACKS A TUXEDO TO GO KILL BLOFELD?

    THIS is where you dress in black and do a night strike, ala TB and GE.

    Good grief that all was so unfortunate.
  • The world's greatest agent waiting for the train to come by when he knows the coordinates of the secret base was just a bad, bad idea.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Bond sneaking around a villain's place of business wearing black sneaking clothes ala Goldfinger/Thunderball/Moonraker/GoldenEye.

    Amen. Bond and Swann waiting at the train station to get picked up instead of knowing where the base is and at least attempting to sneak in at night was an absolute joke.

    They wait of the car to pick them up, lol.

    How do they even know the car will come? Do they plan to just sit there forever?

    Another imponderable about SP's script.

    My assumption was that they were waiting for another train, they don't expect the car.

    Waiting for another train to go where?

    They know the coordinates of the base from Mr White's aged computer so you'd like to think they've also noticed no train tracks go there.

    In any event there's only one train line so where is the next train going to go that the original one wasn't?

    Perhaps they are just waiting for the next one because the conductor booted them off at the next station for smashing up half the train?

    I can understand how it works from Blofeld's end - he is either sending the car to pick up Hinx or he has access to the smart blood and knows Bond is coming his way (presumably the reason he sent Hinx to kill them on the train. But then doesn't he want Bond alive so he can taunt him? In which case why send Hinx at all? Beats me) but what is Bond's reasoning for sitting at a deserted station in the desert?

    As usual with SP's script when you ask a simple question you end up with more questions than answers.

    All this, yes that's right. The logic in all that just astounds me. You're on a secret mission, but you BRING YOUR LUGGAGE ALONG WITH YOU?

    He knows the coordinates, yet PACKS A TUXEDO TO GO KILL BLOFELD?

    THIS is where you dress in black and do a night strike, ala TB and GE.

    Good grief that all was so unfortunate.

    Like I said above, I had assumed he was travelling to a closer location - from which he would plan an attack. Blofeld moves the goalposts when the Phantom arrives.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    It just needed a little more spark in the characterizations for me to totally buy into all the nonsense in the plot, and perhaps a different leading lady.

    Just that bit of OTT that characterize classic Bond participants (Klebb, Khan, Orumov, Kaufmann etc.). I found it was missing that.

    The closest film it tries to be like visually is TSWLM imho, but that film had charisma popping out of every pore.
  • ...and the cut from the fight scene to the love scene was just...silly.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    - Daniel Craig (for one more).

    - A score that actually sounds like a Bond score.

    - A megalomaniac villain with a masterplan to dominate/destroy mankind.

    - A villainess (Bond girl).

    - A bombshell dumb/naive Bond girl (à la Ursula Andress or Britt Ekland).

    - Bond on skis.

    - Tom Ford's breathtaking perfect clothes.

    - Action in space (satellite, space shuttle kidnapping etc. / not Bond in space)

    - Diamonds, give me Diamonds!

    - Dinner with the villain

    - Shirley Bassey, still a million miles better than whining Adele.

    - Decent movie posters.

    - 2 year gaps between movies. It's doable for Heaven's Sake.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    - A bombshell dumb/naive Bond girl (à la Ursula Andress or Britt Ekland).

    Mary Goodnight was a recurring character in the novels. It is about damn time she returned.
  • Definitely the return of this Bond

    It's about time Bond bucked the trend rather than being carried along by the current of anti male feminist opinion.
  • David Arnold. His scores for Casino Royale and QOS were incredible and much better than Thomas Newman's. David Arnold, to me, is the closest we have to John Barry. He knows how to switch between heartstopping action and heartbreaking tenderness brilliantly. I really miss his contribution.
  • Seductive theme tunes! All of Craig's era has had downbeat songs but surely they can't get more downbeat than Writing's On The Wall
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Camille (Olga Kurylenko)

    Just watched QOS, there is a lot to criticise in that movie, but also a lot to praise.

    Olga Kurylenko should return in Bond 25, somehow with time passing she is becoming my favourite Bond girl of the Craig-era.
    It also would make sense to bring her back.
  • Posts: 832
    Originality and bond traditions at the same time. Its actually possible despite what the brosnan and craig eras might lead you to believe
  • Posts: 832
    Also better scripts (no more purvis wade logan)
  • Posts: 14,319
    Camille (Olga Kurylenko)

    Just watched QOS, there is a lot to criticise in that movie, but also a lot to praise.

    Olga Kurylenko should return in Bond 25, somehow with time passing she is becoming my favourite Bond girl of the Craig-era.
    It also would make sense to bring her back.
    Oh you just want Bond to bed her!
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