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Christ its Shirley from EASTENDERS
Yeah, poor guy...
http://feelingwomanish.wordpress.com/tag/daniel-craig/
I'm going to be controversial here but personally I think Craig's acting in the scene when M dies alone puts him above Dalton. Don't get me wrong, Dalton had some fine emotional scenes but nothing as powerful or as moving as the end of Skyfall.
That and I think he sells the lighter stuff better on the whole.
That reminds me of a story that was published in the local paper, a year or two ago. Two transvestites went out for a drink. They were minding thier own business, when a group of yobs decided that the transvestives needed a beating. Unfortunately for the yobs, the transvestites also happened to be cage fighters. You can guess the outcome of the fight.
His movies are great (well two out of three) and his third outing has suppassed TB as the "biggest Bond of them all".
You have know idea how much you just made my day. =))
Wow, really? All I said was:
"Just because Craig makes Babz the most 'hot' doesn't make him the best..."
although I didn't use 'hot' ;)
You see folks, our dear @sirseanisbond was simply explaining Barbara's love for the various Bond actors meteorologically, with a focus on precipitation. So you see, @sirseanisbond is simply rating her love for each Bond actor (specifically Dan) by measuring the heaviness of the rainfall that comes down upon her in this hypothetical sense of course. For instance, she may find Sean's Bond to be devilishly handsome and dangerous, so the rain would be coming down sufficiently hard on her, and she would indeed be a quite damp. On the other hand, if she didn't feel attracted to the aged Roger circa AVTAK, the rain would barely be sprinkling and she would remain rather dry. But since she really, really fancies Dan, the rain is coming down in buckets, soaking her and therefore making her exceedingly "wet." Therefore, since Dan makes her the most "wet" in this meteorological sense, he is by that logic her favorite Bond.
:)
=D> =)) ^:)^
The only problem is Craig's popularity, the time constraints between films and pretty soon his age with be a factor. He's 45 this year, the same age Moore was when he took over the role, but I think in much better shape. He can go for many more years b/c he hits the gym like an athlete. He seems very committed to the role but he is busy doing other movies and fitting him in, working around his schedule will be difficult.
I think he'll do the next two and that's it. Babs want him for a lot longer but I don't see that happening. I think he'll beat Roger's tenure in total time (12 years to who knows, maybe 13 with Bond 25 in 2019) but not in total films b/c they are too slow cranking them out.
What do you mean by "working around his schedule" being difficult? It hasn't been so far. There was 4 years between QOS and SF, so of course he was doing plenty of other stuff, but he has been available when required, just done other stuff in between. He works his schedule around Bonds it seems, not the other way around.
She could just say "he is a brilliant Bond", and doesn't have to say "he is the best Bond", though. Yet since she still says the latter, I think she is really quite genuine.
I like Tim as Bond but his films sadly were nowhere near the level of Craig's Bond films, LTK is a massive favourite of mine but comes off like a eposide of Miami Vice thankfully the bad guys (Davi and Del toro) and Dalton are amazing. I always feel Dalton is the Bond Fan choice who still doesn't think the Blond Blue Eye Craig was right for Bond choice as he's the closet to how Craig plays Bond.
Anyway I think Craig is the best Bond simply he brings so much to the role. CR and SF are the two best Bond films in the Canon imo. Craig has shown Bond a more human side that makes you care more plus when it comes to the action side of things no one comes close. I think his record right now proves it and hopefully he can finish it off with more classic Bond films.
I fully agree about Dan. It would be interesting to see how each Bond actor from Sean to Pierce would have been perceived if they all had the chance to play a Bond as straight faced and deep as Dan and to a slightly lesser extent, Tim. If I could rank who came closest to playing the Bond Tim and Dan have played, I would say George and Sean would likely be next, followed by Pierce and then Roger as far as depth in the character of Bond goes.
Sean in FRWl and Dr No, showed a cold blooded nasty side to Bond which from Goldfinger onward never really showed itself again cause the gadgets and OTT started to overtake the character. I think he would have killed for what Daniel got as would have Tim. Roger simply wasn't and isn't that type of actor to play Bond dead serious. Brosnan wasn't an actor of the quality of Craig or Dalton to pull it off for me. George had the physical side but wasn't really an actor but he did a great job with OHMSS.
As for George, he does a passable job and does really have some moments. The only sad thing is all we get is his physical performance since he was unfortunately dubbed endlessly. It is something I could live without in the film, but oh well.
I also fully agree about Daniel.
And I agree about CR and SF.
Your mention of blue eyes made me wonder if people actually complained about that, too... I wasn't following the crap at the time that closely and I don't remember, but I imagine many actually did complain about that. Did anyone complain about those Bond actors who didn't have blue eyes that their eyes are the wrong colour, I wonder... Fleming's Bond has blue eyes, after all. :P
They complained about his height, hair, looks everything. I couldn't care less if he has ginger hair as long as i feel he's playing the character the way he should be played which Craig has nailed on since the start.
I have to say that I disagree with some of my fellow Daltonites regards their dismissal of Craig as being far inferior to Dalton, because there are so many similarities between the two it isn't funny. Craig is very close to Fleming Bond much like Dalton when you look past the garbage the original press and the DCINB crew puts out "he's blond, he's a thug, yawn, yawn, yawn" and below the surface for the motivations and inner thoughts of the character. Every bit the great actor as well. Much agreed with the comparison in love scenes and quips, although Dalton and D'Abo were great together, I think she made that happen more than he did. Craig is much more an active participant in making those scenes he gets work out. Action-wise, Craig is right there with Connery and Lazenby, and he's got that Connery/Dalton "don't mess with me" look in his eyes often.
What I'd disagree with is the sentiment that Dalton's "didn't" look like Bond. He very much fit the traditional mold, Dracula look aside, as far as hair color. It was a different time from the 1960's with the short above the ear look (hmmm, don't some people complain about this in regards to Craig?), and longer hair on a man tended to be a bit more "in" and acceptable in those days, as a man who enjoyed much success with the ladies with my own hair down to just about my elbows back then, I can attest personally to that :)
While that's no doubt true, I think every other Bond managed to simultaneously look of their decade, while maintaining a classical look. I get the sense that Beatles-hating Connery Bond would have approved of Craig and Brosnan's haircuts, but would have called Dalton a damn hippie. ;)
Of the remaining 4, I think Connery and Laz were both perfect. They also both combined the other needed Bond elements such as right look, natural athleticism, mature but youthful swagger, style, humour and an aloofness and arrogance that I like in the role, and that I think Fleming brought out as well. Fleming's Bond could be cocky as hell.
IMO neither Dalts nor Craig measure up to the first two Bonds as complete packages. Craig flat out doesn't have the right look. It does distract from his performance, because one can't help but be constantly aware of it. He doesn't have the same looming screen presence that a taller 6'2 man would have such as Connery or Laz, or even Dalts who did have commanding stature. Fleming wrote Bond as tall and both Connery and Laz effortlessly brought this vital element along with panther like gaits.
Where Dalts loses me somewhat is that he tried too hard to portray both a vulnerable and human side of Bond. This attempt appears to have been rejected by theatre audiences as well. Othewise Dalts was pretty good. So I'd rank Connery on a pedestal as #1 and the ultimate screen Bond. Laz a strong #2, Dalts a decent #3 and Craig (who again IMO really shouldn't be in the mix because of having the wrong look) as #4, because he can at least play the part quite well, when it comes to being action Bond, and fighting his way out of tight spots and he has some other performance attributes.
But if I had to include Broz and Rog in an overall 6 ranking, they both bump Craig down further because of their other attributes. Rog gets #4 because he does have a strong screen presence and does perfectly look the part, even if he can't quite bring the menace. He brings charm and wit and can play it tough sometimes. Broz gets #5 because he at least does have the right look and charm (even if it comes across as smarm occasionally) and he does have his Bond-tough moments, but his performces are uneven IMO. Sometimes he's on, sometime he's off.
But Craig I do have to drop to the bottom mainly because he is at such a disadvantage with not having the right look. Its impossible for him to look like Bond. Even in 1973, John Pearson in the JB Authorized Biography, updated Fleming's early '50s Bond from 6' to 6'2" and of course he was not only tall, but also dark and handsome. Craig is neither tall, nor dark haired, nor classicly handsome. Just looking at him, always throws me off, because he looks nothing like how I envision Flemings Bond.
I applaud his efforts but I can't rank him well against the others.
What Babs needs to do, to get back to Bond basics, is get a big poster of prime Connery-Bond to hang on her wall and ogle. :x
As for hair -short hair was quite square in the '70s and thus appropriate for Bond. But short hair became perfectly acceptable for anyone again in the '80s, and still is, i.e. not square.
Dalts hair was yes somewhat off in LTK. Even square old Rog was a tad shaggy in the '80s. Something about the '80s. Nobody looked good. Short-haired or long-haired. It was a hideous decade, fashion wise. You had the post new-wavers, the Duranies etc competing with the cheesy hard-rock hair-bands, trying to outdo each other for MTV supremacy, while everyone else it seems, including our poor Bond, got caught in the middle somewhere.
I think the insanity subsided with the end of this best forgotten decade.
Sorry, not going to happen. Don't worry Sean will always be king. That contest was over with the completion of TB. Connery aced four films in a row and built Bondmania. Sean was of course superb in both YOLT and DAF too, but his performance by then was leveled off. He had already peaked. Kind of like post-Pepper Beatles or post-Let-It-Bleed Stones. Perfection cannot be improved upon.
Perfection doesn't exist.