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If a Bond movie deserved an Oscar for best film it would be...?

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  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited January 2013 Posts: 11,189
    To be honest I'm not sure any deserve a "best film" award (I'm being frank here) but if I were to give awards to the films they would be:

    Best editing - From Russia with Love
    Best Cinematography - Skyfall
    Best actress - Judi Dench - Skyfall
    Best actor - Daniel Craig - Casino Royale (simply for the torture scene)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited January 2013 Posts: 4,444
    Best Original Score:

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live And Let Die
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World Is Not Enough
    Skyfall

    Best Art Direction:

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    Licence To Kill
    Goldeneye
    Quantum Of Solace

    Best Cinematography:

    From Russia With Love
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    A View To A Kill
    The World Is Not Enough
    Quantum Of Solace

    Best Original Song:

    Three Blind Mouse (Dr No)
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    You Only Live Twice
    We Have Alll the time in the world (OHMSS)
    Live and Let Die
    Nobody Does It Better (TSWLM)
    All time high (Octopussy)
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Skyfall

    Best actor:

    Pedro Aramadaris (Postume) Kerim Bay FRWL.
    Telly Savalas as Blofeld OHMSS
    Pierce Brosnan Twine
    Desmond Llewelyn (Postume) Twine
    Mads Mikkelsen as Lechief in Casino Royale

    Best actress:

    Sophie Marceau ''Elektra in Twine''
    Judi Dench as M for Twine


    Razzie:

    Thunderball. Editing, Writing.

    Die Another Day. Writing, Editing, Cinemopgraphy, casting directer, art directer and David Arnold.
    Die Another Day - Rick Yune, Michael Madsen,Toby Stephens and Madonna .

    Casino Royale - Soundmixer, Editing, Art directer, Second United directer Alexander Witt, Eva Green.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited January 2013 Posts: 11,119
    I would be more critical hehe. From the acting categories I'd nominate three. Same with the technical categories. Though the latter categories are more difficult for me to give my opinion about. I think it's a nice list though. Would be interesting to see how others would update this 'The Golden Fleming Award' list ;-):

    Best Motion Picture Of The Year:
    --> 'From Russia With Love'
    --> 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    --> 'Skyfall' *MY PICK*
    Narrowly missing out: 'Goldfinger' and 'Casino Royale'

    Best Performance By An Actor In A Leading Role:
    --> George Lazenby for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' (Did get a Golden Globe nomination in 1970!)
    --> Sean Connery for 'Thunderball' *MY PICK*
    --> Daniel Craig for 'Skyfall'
    Narrowly missing out: Roger Moore for 'For Your Eyes Only' and Sean Connery for 'From Russia With Love'

    Best Performance By An Actress In A Leading Role:
    --> Diana Rigg for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' *MY PICK*
    --> Eva Green for 'Casino Royale'
    --> Judi Dench for 'Skyfall'
    Narrowly missing out: Carole Bouquet for 'For Your Eyes Only' and 'Bérénice Lim Marlohe for 'Skyfall'

    Best Performance By An Actor In A Supporting Role:
    --> Robert Shaw for 'From Russia With Love'
    --> Christopher Walken for 'A View To A Kill'
    --> Javier Bardem for 'Skyfall' *MY PICK*
    Narrowly missing out: Telly Savalas for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' and Mads Mikkelsen for 'Casino Royale'

    Best Performance By An Actor In A Supporting Role:
    --> Lotte Lenya for 'From Russia With Love' *MY PICK*
    --> Luciana Paluzzi for 'Thunderball'
    --> Barbara Carrera for 'Never Say Never Again' (Did get a Golden Globe nomination in 1984!)
    Narrowly missing out: Ilse Steppat for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' and Sophie Marceau for 'The World Is Not Enough'

    Best Achievement In Directing:
    --> Terence Young for 'Thunderball' *MY PICK*
    --> Peter Hunt for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    --> Sam Mendes for 'Skyfall'
    Narrowly missing out: Terence Young for 'From Russia With Love' and Martin Campbell for 'Casino Royale'

    Best Writing, Screenplay Based On Material Previously Produced Or Published:
    --> Richard 'Dick' Maibaum, Jack Whittingham and John Hopkins for 'Thunderball' *MY PICK*
    --> Richard 'Dick' Maibaum and Simon Raven for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    --> Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and Paul Haggis for 'Casino Royale'
    --> Neal Purvis, Robert Wade and John Logan for 'Skyfall'
    Narrowly missing out: Richard 'Dick' Maibaum and Tom Mankiewicz for 'Diamonds Are Forever' (Incredibly witty screenplay).

    Best Achievement In Cinematography:
    --> Ted Moore for 'Thunderball'
    --> Michael Reed for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    --> Roger Deakins for 'Skyfall' *MY PICK*
    Narrowly missing out: Alan Hume for 'For Your Eyes Only' and Phil Meheux for 'Casino Royale'

    Best Achievement In Editing:
    --> Peter Hunt for 'From Russia With Love' *MY PICK*
    --> Ernest Hosler for 'Thunderball'
    --> Stuart Baird for 'Skyfall'
    Narrowly missing out: Peter Hunt for 'Goldfinger and John Shirley and Raymond Poulton for 'The Man With The Golden Gun'

    Best Achievement In Art Direction:
    --> Ken Adam, Peter Murton and Freda Pearson for 'Goldfinger' (Did get a BAFTA nomination in 1965!)*MY PICK*
    --> Ken Adam, Charles Bishop, Max Douy and Peter Howitt for 'Moonraker'
    --> Peter Lamont, Simon Lamont, Lee Sandales and Simon Wakefield for 'Casino Royale'
    Narrowly missing out: Syd Cain, Bob Laing and Peter Lamont for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'

    Best Achievement In Costume Design:
    --> Jackie Cummins, Marjory Cornelius and Peter Hunt for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' *MY PICK*
    --> Jacques Fonteray, Colette Baudot and Jean Zay for 'Moonraker'
    --> Lindy Hemming, Gabriela Horská and Nicholas Roche-Gordon for 'Casino Royale'
    Narrowly missing out: Jane Temime for 'Skyfall' and John Brady, Anthony Mendleson, Anthony Sinclair and Eileen Sullivan for 'Thunderball'

    Best Achievement In Music Written For Motion Pictures, Original Score:
    --> John Barry for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' *MY PICK*
    --> George Martin for 'Live And Let Die'
    --> John Barry for 'The Living Daylights'
    Narrowly missing out: John Barry for 'Moonraker' and Thomas Newman for 'Skyfall'

    Best Achievement In Music Written For Motion Pictures, Original Song:
    --> Burt Bacharach, Hal David and Dusty Springfield for 'The Look Of Love' ('Casino Royale 1967') (Did get an Oscar nomination in 1968!)
    --> John Barry, Hal David and Louis Armstrong for 'We Have All The Time In The World' ('On Her Majesty's Secret Service')
    --> Paul Epworth, Thomas Newman and Adele for 'Skyfall' ('Skyfall') (Did get a Golden Globe nomination in 2012!) *MY PICK*
    Narrowly missing out: Marvin Hamlisch, Carole Bayer Sager and Carly Simon for 'Nobody Does It Better' ('The Spy Who Loved Me') and Bill Conti, Michael Leeson and Sheena Easton for 'For Your Eyes Only' ('For Your Eyes Only') (BOTH nominated for an Oscar in 1978 and 1982 respectively!)

    Best Achievement In Sound (Both Mixing and Editing. Nowadays two separated categories):
    --> Norman Wanstall for 'Goldfinger' (DID won the Oscar in 1965!) *MY PICK*
    --> Derek Ball and Jean-Pierre Lelong for 'For Your Eyes Only'
    --> Scott Millan and Per Hallberg for 'Skyfall'

    Best Achievement In Visual Effects:
    --> John Stears for 'Thunderball' (DID won the Oscar in 1966!) *MY PICK*
    --> Derek Meddings and Alan Maley for 'The Spy Who Loved Me'
    --> Derek Meddings, Paul Wilson and John Evans for 'Moonraker' (Did get an Oscar nomination in 1980!)



  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Anyone?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    OHMSS and CR, the only two Bond films that can stand alone.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    echo wrote:
    OHMSS and CR, the only two Bond films that can stand alone.

    That's your opinion. I find it a bit.....too black-and-white to be honest.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    echo wrote:
    OHMSS and CR, the only two Bond films that can stand alone.

    That's your opinion. I find it a bit.....too black-and-white to be honest.

    That is his opinion. Good job.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,506
    What about best original story for Skyfall?
  • IndyfanaticyaIndyfanaticya
    Posts: 53
    Best Original song, every Connery film. Especially the extremely underrated From Russia with Love song at the end of the film.

    Personally, I believe Casino Royale was a perfect film. Like, it should have been a more serious threat to films back in 2006 but because it's a Bond film, people wrote it off.
    Daniel Craig should have earned an Oscar nomination for how he revolutionized how we see Bond and how he change the character forever. He brought a genuine wit and human element to Bond that I have never seen. Craig is Fleming's Bond, and I don't give about what anyone else says regarding my opinion.
    Mads Mikkelsen, possibly best supporting actor. But Javier Bardem definitely earns that category. Direction, SF and CR. Cinematography SF.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Indyfanaticya wrote:
    Best Original song, every Connery film. Especially the extremely underrated From Russia with Love song at the end of the film.

    Absolutely. I wish that Monro's song was put into the opening titles instead of just the musical accompaniment. It would be even higher on my list for it.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    I think FRWL remains the best overall film but it would never win an Oscar. Not then and not now.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    At the time it would of been difficult such was the caliber of other movie releases in the early 1960s. (take note kids - film making then was something to behold, not like some of the garbage releases of the last decade or directly before it) but if we look back now at all the other Bond releases, and I mentioned before, From Russia With Love is the one standout candidate that could win an award or Oscar (nomination). I don't think any other Bond release can quite stand up to it, but it's all about ages and past and present years perspectives possibly
  • TroyTroy
    Posts: 338
    Considering how many times we go back and watch old Bond films over and over again, then they must be pretty good films, and certainly deserving of at least one Best Film Oscar.

    But if we are going to claim any particular film should have one, then its meaningless unless you compare it against that years winner - and other nominees - after all the Oscar is meant to signify being the best film that year.

    For me, only FRWL, GF, TB and CR should have won.
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
    Posts: 1,143
    And Best Picture goes to..... FRWL or OHMSS. In truth Bond will never win best picture but I can see a certain Oscar or two coming the franchise's way if they build on Skyfall's success. I think this time round Adele might actually win best song for Skyfall.
  • IndyfanaticyaIndyfanaticya
    Posts: 53
    OHMSS doesn't NOT deserve an Oscar. :))
  • W_PPKW_PPK
    Posts: 172
    CR and TLD. And maybe GE.
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
    edited February 2013 Posts: 1,143
    Indyfanaticya wrote:
    OHMSS doesn't NOT deserve an Oscar. :))

    Will beg to differ on that one.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    OHMSS for sure. It has the complete package IMO.
  • Tobester95Tobester95
    Posts: 117
    Lazenby was too wooden for me. His performance is the reason that film isn't in my top 10.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Some of the psychedelic 60's hypnosis mumbo-jumbo also rubs me the wrong way.
  • OligarchOligarch Banned
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    CR is the most Oscar worthy by far
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,691
    Oligarch wrote:
    CR is the most Oscar worthy by far
    Though not my favourite ( I like it, just not in my top 5) , objectively I can agree.
    L-)
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    If over hyperbole nonsense like Titanic can pull in a great haul of Oscars then Casino Royale is good enough to win. Probably only From Russia With Love comes close, but I really can't think of any other deserving titles. Skyfall ?, Yes, it was a fine release, but it's not even Daniel Craig's best..
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    If over hyperbole nonsense like Titanic can pull in a great haul of Oscars then Casino Royale is good enough to win.
    CR was only like twice or three times better than Titanic, but Titanic had a cool love story attached to a historical event, so there ya go.
  • myworldisenoughmyworldisenough
    Posts: 1,143
    chrisisall wrote:
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    If over hyperbole nonsense like Titanic can pull in a great haul of Oscars then Casino Royale is good enough to win.
    CR was only like twice or three times better than Titanic, but Titanic had a cool love story attached to a historical event, so there ya go.

    There lies the problem. Bond is a tried and tested very popular formulaic film franchise and there is not enough originality or daring to produce a movie that can tick the Oscar boxes. That said many Bond movies are far better than previous best film winners IMO.
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart
    Posts: 1,370
    chrisisall wrote:
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    If over hyperbole nonsense like Titanic can pull in a great haul of Oscars then Casino Royale is good enough to win.
    CR was only like twice or three times better than Titanic, but Titanic had a cool love story attached to a historical event, so there ya go.

    I think that that's an over-simplification. I know that Titanic gets a lot of flack but there are two very important factors that favoured in to its win. The first is that the logistics of the shoot, and the achievement to bring it to the screen, were incredible. The academy is made of of film-makers so understanding the work that goes into a film, not just how the finished product appears on screen, can often be a factor.

    The second is box office. Now, I'm not suggesting that the Oscar should go to the biggest box off ice success each year, but consider this. Every once in a while, there will be a new "biggest film of all time", often eclipsing the previous one by, say, $50 million dollars. When Titanic came out it doubled the box office take of the previous #1 film of all time (Jurassic Park). The fact that Cameron made a film that connected with so many audience members, all across the world, across different cultures - that as well was a stunning achievement.

    Whether we agree that the above are valid (in our opinions) criteria for choosing Titanic as Best Picture the academy certainly did.

  • MaidenDethMaidenDeth
    Posts: 60
    It seems like most of us agree From Russia With Love deserves the award, I would also say Casino Royale and Goldeneye. Maybe Goldfinger and OHMSS too.
  • Matt_HelmMatt_Helm
    Posts: 908
    I would argue for FRWL and/or OHMSS and not because I Happen to think, that they are the best Bond Flics (which i actually do) but for Peter Hunt reinventing/redefining cutting and the Way a Movie could be directed. Whenever I See OHMSS I'm constantly impressed how much especially the Second and the third Bourne Film (and therefore QoS)owe to it.
  • hoppimikehoppimike Kent, UK
    Posts: 290
    Casino Royale would get my vote :)
  • baronsamedi76baronsamedi76
    Posts: 174
    Again I have to agree with most on here and say FRWL.
    I want to say GF and LALD as they are my favourites but FRWL is much more gritty and real than my favourite two.
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