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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited 1:44am Posts: 6,445
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
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    I have a hard time seeing Amazon go for a 50s Bond film for this one, and I'm dubious about how it's cropped up. I think it's an idea that might appeal to a minority of fans to the point it's actually a rather cliched idea at this point, and a dull one at that (very much a 'oh, you have a hot take on what the new Bond film should be? Let me guess, you want it to be set in the 50s? Never heard that one before etc').

    I saw this vid entitled ‘Here are my ideas for the next James Bond’ pop up on YouTube and funnily enough exactly the same thought went through my head. I actually played it thinking ‘I wonder if his amazing fresh idea is by any chance to set it in the 50s?’ Spoiler: yes, of course it is. I stopped watching at that point!


    😂 No way. I actually really like one or two of this guy’s videos (he did a great one about a low budget feature film he made and all his challenges/mistakes). Not a regular viewer of his though and didn’t even know he was a Bond fan. Not sure why he’s so concerned about the copyright to Fleming expiring just going from the start of the video though. They’re already in the public domain in two countries. But yes, not exactly original ideas, and certainly not my favourite video I’ve seen of his.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
    edited 12:19am Posts: 899
    007HallY wrote: »
    I know it came out recently that Steven Soderbergh pitched a Bond film set in the 1960s shot in black and white when EON were still officially in charge.

    I've never understood why anyone would want a black and white Bond film (a whole film that is; I like CR's PTS very much). If the purpose is to harken back to the 50s and 60s, then it completely misses part of what made the films exciting at that time. When British cinema was awash with kitchen sink dramas, and air travel was out of reach to all but a privileged few, the Bond films were lush, escapist fantasies, set in the most beautiful places on Earth, and in glorious COLOUR.

    Would the rich sandy beaches and shimmering blue waters of Jamaica, or Ursula Andress's tanned golden skin, have had nearly the same impact in black and white? I don't think so.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited 1:38am Posts: 6,445
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I know it came out recently that Steven Soderbergh pitched a Bond film set in the 1960s shot in black and white when EON were still officially in charge.

    I've never understood why anyone would want a black and white Bond film (a whole film that is; I like CR's PTS very much). If the purpose is to harken back to the 50s and 60s, then it completely misses part of what made the films exciting at that time. When British cinema was awash with kitchen sink dramas, and air travel was out of reach to all but a privileged few, the Bond films were lush, escapist fantasies, set in the most beautiful places on Earth, and in glorious COLOUR.

    Would the rich sandy beaches and shimmering blue waters of Jamaica, or Ursula Andress's tanned golden skin, have had nearly the same impact in black and white? I don't think so.

    I completely agree. I’m not sure a whole Bond film in black and white would feel right. The early films and Fleming books were both contemporary for their time. Quite modern in many ways. Each new Bond film has in some way reflected the time period it’s made in. To make Bond some sort of historical character misses something fundamental to these adventures and their appeal. Even just superficially Bond’s a character always driving the latest car or wearing the classiest modern clothes or watches in these films.

    I’ve joked in the past that it must have been very tiring for EON! Imagine having to constantly hear pitches from famous directors and actors which always amounted to the same two ideas - a Bond film set in the 50s/60s, or a Bond origin story about his naval days. The latter I believe is something Tom Holland tried to pitch.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    Posts: 3,351
    Benny wrote: »
    If there’s no script and Denis is still working on Dune 3, I’d say there’s zero chance of getting the next Bond until the middle of next year at the earliest.
    Just because a bookmaker has been taking bets on Callum Turner means diddly squat about his chances of actually landing the role of James Bond.
    It’s basically click bait.

    Yes I agree. Another BS rumour. However, If Callum was chosen as the next 007, I'd be very happy with that choice. I think he would be great in the role. He also fits the Fleming description perfectly, which is an absolute must in my book, first and foremost.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 16,283
    007HallY wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I know it came out recently that Steven Soderbergh pitched a Bond film set in the 1960s shot in black and white when EON were still officially in charge.

    I've never understood why anyone would want a black and white Bond film (a whole film that is; I like CR's PTS very much). If the purpose is to harken back to the 50s and 60s, then it completely misses part of what made the films exciting at that time. When British cinema was awash with kitchen sink dramas, and air travel was out of reach to all but a privileged few, the Bond films were lush, escapist fantasies, set in the most beautiful places on Earth, and in glorious COLOUR.

    Would the rich sandy beaches and shimmering blue waters of Jamaica, or Ursula Andress's tanned golden skin, have had nearly the same impact in black and white? I don't think so.

    I completely agree. I’m not sure a whole Bond film in black and white would feel right. The early films and Fleming books were both contemporary for their time. Quite modern in many ways. Each new Bond film has in some way reflected the time period it’s made in. To make Bond some sort of historical character misses something fundamental to these adventures and their appeal. Even just superficially Bond’s a character always driving the latest car or wearing the classiest modern clothes or watches in these films.

    I’ve joked in the past that it must have been very tiring for EON! Imagine having to constantly hear pitches from famous directors and actors which always amounted to the same two ideas - a Bond film set in the 50s/60s, or a Bond origin story about his naval days. The latter I believe is something Tom Holland tried to pitch.

    Turning a Bond movie into a period piece also brings the issue of authenticity. It's not only that people had values and ideas different than ours, but they a way to move, to inhabit their environment different that is of their time. Anthony Minghella mentioned it about casting Dickie Greenleaf in The Talented Mr Ripley: he didn't want a modern American, but someone who could come off as an upper-class American young man in the 50s. You look at Connery and Moore and
    meshypushy wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I wonder what a bookmaker knows about casting in general and Bond casting in particular to give such probability. And from what I remember, they've been way off the mark in the past.
    Bookmakers run ‘novelty markets’ (their term) for the likes of Next Bond etc. They take no money on them in comparison to their core bread and butter (sports), so they usually keep them open as a PR exercise. When you see a bookie running to a tabloid to tell them what people are betting on, it’s a PR stunt, with nothing driving it other than a chance to get free PR. ‘Stopping taking bets’ / ‘Paying out early’ are other stunts that bookies use to generate very low cost PR. It’s horseshit - plain and simple.

    That's what I guessed. It would be like me making football predictions while I know nothing of the sport.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,592
    A period film is harder to sell to a younger audience, and what Bond needs now is to rejuvenate its fanbase.
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