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How would a Bond film go if a different Bond were in it?
Inspired by discussions on the other thread. Courtesy to @007HallY for suggesting it.
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What might be quite fun is that he’d do the sniper mission, deliberately miss Kara, and then while Saunders is berating him he’d just walk off without saying anything :D
For some reason I have found myself actually picturing Sean doing the concert arrival with the ‘beautiful girl with the cello’ stuff, and how he’d make it a bit more playful and charismatic.
It’s a fun question, it’s actually hard to imagine many of them doing actually different things, even if they’d do it in a different style. Like I was saying in the other thread, something which seems the most extreme juxtaposition - Roger in LTK- I can actually see kind of working: it’s just FYEO dialled up a bit, really. And if anything I might buy he actually likes David Hedison a bit more! :D
I’m going to think of some more!
Yeah, I think he'd be put on leave and then he'd go completely off the books (possibly even thwarting another 00's attempt to assassinate Pushkin and causing problems before eventually teaming up with Leiter/working with him... which actually come to think of it isn't a bad reworking of the story).
Haha, very Craig's Bond. I can imagine him saying the 'living daylights' speech word for word though (the 'stuff my orders' bit especially). I think he'd also give poor Saunders a harder time than even Dalton's Bond did!
I could be well off, but I can imagine some of the other Bonds trying to get others involved a bit more in the finale at SF rather than ambushing Silva alone. I dunno, maybe Lazenby or Connery's Bond would enlist some 'old friends' not from MI6 to come and help him. Pretty much the same result though, except with Bond acting less independently and more dying.
I'm also thinking about Connery doing TMWTGG, but I think it would have to be with someone other than Lee. There wouldn't be enough contrast.
Connery’s Bond I can see locking Goodnight in the closet though!
I get what you’re saying - but the idea of Connery and Lee facing off against each other is just too good to pass up.
But taking what you said into account - some potential recasts could be Jack Palance. I thought he was excellent in Shane and I love the dichotomy between him and Alan Ladd in that film - makes for one of the greatest confrontations in cinema history. Another one could be Warren Beatty - whose performance as Clyde Barrow was fast, energetic, and youthful. To see either of them go up against Connery would be quite an interesting prospect.
I feel Craig and Brosnan’s Bond would have realised that at some point, especially with how they treat Anders and Goodnight. It’s interesting thinking of a version of TMWTGG in the late 90s or early 2010s with those actors. In fact I think if there’s any new Bond film that should be retold in that TSWLM riffing on YOLT way, it’s TMWTGG.
Why do you think Connery would've been more of a contrast?
Both Moore and Lee have a similar debonaire quality to them, where Connery was more rugged. Nothing wrong with that contrast incidentally, and I'm sure it could have been interesting, although it'd feel less like they were contemporaries. At any rate I'm not sure if TMWTGG's script was strong enough to really push a lot of the 'dark side of Bond' stuff we're speaking of.
It's a very strange film. A misfire on the writing front, even with Bond's character. Some of the stuff Bond does I can't imagine Connery fully getting away with. Bond seems... well, a touch snippy and humourless at times. If anything if it were a film with a less ironic tone it'd probably be a cool story for Dalton.
I think had Connery starred in the film it would have been drastically different in terms of performance and how it's written as opposed to Moore. I'd heard that the reason Bond is a bit dickish in this one was down to Guy Hamilton who felt the need to toughen Moore up even more. I'd imagine if Connery were in this one, his performance probably would've been more laid back and lighter - akin to his performance in Diamonds are Forever.
Having said all that, I don't think Moore needed to be "toughened" up at all. I thought he gave a very solid performance in LALD where he had the right mixture of danger, humor, and confidence. It's a performance that continues to impress me as the years go by because of how he manages to differentiate his take on Bond from Connery's - even if they are written quite similarly. To go from Moore in LALD to Moore in TMWTGG is unfortunately quite the regression in my eyes.
Yes, most likely. I do like Moore when he's holding Lazar at gunpoint though, and as I said the whole 'Queen and Country' speech seems better suited to his Bond (it's difficult imagining Connery conveying genuine disgust towards Scaramanga). But yeah, a bit of a misfire.
Ironically I think Moore comes across tougher in TSWLM than in the majority of TMWTGG. He's just snippy and irritable in the latter, whereas in the former he seems much more in control all round, which makes him flicking away the henchman's hand from his tie, or the brawl with the Russians much more impactful.
Yeah, completely agree: if there's any Bond film with a killer premise and which doesn't deliver on it, it's TMWTGG. So much potential there and it goes nowhere with all the Solex rubbish. Even all the stuff with the 007 bullet, and being sent it by by Andrea as a cry for help: that's all great.
Agree there too, it is a really weird one. Roger is pretty much the most likeable Bond, in this film being given the script where 007 is the most unlikeable he's ever been. We always hear how he was uncomfortable with some bits of FYEO, but it's surprising he wasn't more uncomfortable with TMWTGG, given that he has to be just plain horrible in quite a few scenes in it. A few years and a new director though, and he's firing on all cylinders in TSWLM.