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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Bond novels are sexist, suggests Emma Thompson (The Daily Telegraph)

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/bond-novels-are-sexist-suggests-emma-thompson/ar-AA1OTsjV?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=68f8ad2b7c004cdab72bac6f9d013404&ei=9

    Dame Emma Thompson has suggested that Ian Fleming’s 007 novels are sexist.

    The Academy Award-winning actress said the James Bond books she read as a teenager told her that women should fall in love and get killed.

    Dame Emma, 66, said other famous spy novels did not encourage readers to believe in “female power”, as they depict women seducing men and not showing what they are “capable of”.

    Writing in the Radio Times, she said: “I read and re-read all of Alistair MacLean, Raymond Chandler, Ian Fleming, Len Deighton, John le Carré and Arthur Conan Doyle while a teenager, so it’s astonishing that I grew up into someone who believed in female power.

    “By the laws of probability, I should still be looking for parts that require me to seduce and get killed, fall in love and get killed, be naked and already dead or manage a cigarette holder without burning myself.”

    The Love Actually star is set to feature in an adaptation of Mick Herron’s Down Cemetery Road.

    She said the writer’s work, which also includes the Slow Horses series, pass the Bechdel test – because they have at least two female characters who talk to each other about something other than men.

    On Herron’s work, she continued: “Women get to do stuff and say stuff. His books pass the Bechdel test with lots of room to spare.

    “You get the feeling he knows what we are capable of, and there were precious few thriller or spy writers doing that while I was growing up.”

    Dame Emma’s comments echo those Dame Helen Mirren made earlier this year, amid speculation about who will be the next James Bond.

    Dame Helen said the franchise was drenched in “profound sexism” and she never liked how women were portrayed in the film adaptations.

    Although James Bond almost always escapes from dangerous scenarios unscathed, the same cannot be said for his female accomplices.

    In February, creative control of James Bond was handed from American-British producers to Amazon MGM Studios.

    It prompted an outcry that the franchise is now entirely in American hands, with Valerie Leon, a former Bond girl, warning it “won’t be [British] anymore”.
  • I mean she doesn't single out James Bond books in particular, instead she mentions a large amount of classic literature.

    Yes, a lot of classic literature will fail the Bechdel test but that's because society in the past for the most part failed the Bechdel test. While women did work in intelligence and police (and Bond shows that) it is unlikely their work would not revolve around a man.

    The Bechdel test also falls apart when there is a third-person limited or first POV of a male protagonist. It really should only be a general overview of many works during a time period: about half of works should pass and another half should fail because about half should have a female protagonist (and the other half a male one).'

    I cannot speak for the others but I don't think Le Carre or Fleming necessarily fall into those traps either when they do feature female characters. Fleming certainly has girls that exist independent of Bond (Vesper, Gala, Tiffany, and Domino for instance) and I believe only three Bond girls get killed because of Bond (that is, excluding Vesper's suicide, which is a product of her life outside of Bond!). Women do get to do stuff and say stuff, just through the context and lens of the main character.

    Le Carre is a bizarre mention as well because from what I've read his novels rarely involve seduction and death is used quite sparingly. They generally feature few female characters but they are not treated poorly or come across badly.

    I have only read Deighton's Berlin Game, so I am not qualified to comment across his broader works, but yes there are few female characters and they exist only as wives to other characters but one of them is quite important to the overall story (perhaps that's what she means by the overuse of seduction?).

    Conan Doyle is probably the most likely to fall into the trap. Holmes is kind to women but the stories perhaps don't think much of them in terms of agency or in terms of handling the truth at times. It's not a surprise considering he's the oldest author on the list, but then again there is Irene Adler who is a large subversion of the expected docile nature of women in the Victorian era. (Adler, who in the most popular Holmes adaptation to date does less and is sexed up more).
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    She's upset because women in espionage are likely to have a higher mortality rate? Ok...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 5:04pm Posts: 19,437
    I don't see anything which suggests she's upset, no. She's praising Herron's work mostly.
  • edited 5:09pm Posts: 6,168
    It's not a new criticism of Bond. Diana Rigg said much more critical things about the character during interviews for OHMSS! I think like any long running series there are shades and nuances when accounting for the women of each individual adventure. And of course significant aspects of the film franchise (casting, producing etc) have been helmed by women who I'd argue understand the character on a deeper level than most (whatever that's worth). It's a whole discussion in itself.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Who would have thought that books written in the early to mid 20th century, would reflect the attitudes of the time.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited 5:16pm Posts: 2,201
    They claim "the same can not be said" for Bond's accomplices, resulting in a film franchise where he ends up leaving the ending with a living woman on his side for nearly every single picture. They need to be specific if they want to leverage any legitimate criticism, at least against the Bond movies they had a chance to star in.
  • Posts: 395
    Has Thompson not noticed that most men in the novels end up dead?
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