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  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
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    Whilst we wait for the delivery of Thunderball, listen to 1994’s The Specialist Soundtrack from Barry on YouTube - it’s sounds very close to Octopussy and A View To A Kill
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Beakerweb5576 wrote: »
    Whilst we wait for the delivery of Thunderball, listen to 1994’s The Specialist Soundtrack from Barry on YouTube - it’s sounds very close to Octopussy and A View To A Kill

    Yeah. I think The Specialist gave us a hint of what Barry's GoldenEye would have sounded like. But still, I love Eric Serra's take on Bond.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,970
    The Specialist is one of my secret film score darlings. I paid a lot of good money to own the CD. The romantic motif in the film, which Barry "jazzified" to maximum effect, is something I love to play in my car while driving home, late at night...
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 156
    Whilst i'm waiting on thunderball (shipment underway) for no special reason I chose to rewatch qos and it's made me wonder about the scene when Bond Meets Felix in a bar and is told he has 30 seconds to move his arse,Is this the point at which antonio pinto's "10" is heard only if it is there is i think an uncredited female singer heard ,anybody have any thoughts or info on this ?
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 102
    Thunderball arrived this morning for me from the 007Store 👍🏻
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,332
    Nice! Let us know what you think!
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 102
    Very clear and sharp - it’s not one of my favourites (I think the music is too slow) but will support LaLa Land for every 007 release
  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    Posts: 57
    It’s genuinely great to hear the ‘SPECTRE Ring / Do You Fly Here Often?’ cues in their full glory. The sound is as clear and crisp as typical of LLL releases and, while much of the music has been released before, there are plenty of fresh details to enjoy here.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,784
    Not official Bond music, not sure if it's already represented on these pages.


    So I watched a documentary on low-budget filmmaker Cliff Twemlow that has a "LIve and Let Die" story to tell. He lost a lot of money over it.

    Other Bond connections Bond's red Lotus Esprit Turbo and another Bond car appear. And Carole Ashby.

    Known for the tag line "Nobody Dies Forever".


    MANCUNIAN MAN: THE LEGENDARY LIFE OF CLIFF TWEMLOW (2023) TRAILER (2:40)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRwVFMucA9Q


    Mancunian Man - The Legendary Life of Cliff Twemlow (2023) (2:04:05)
    Mancunian Man - The Legendary Life of Cliff Twemlow (2023)

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    Cliff Twemlow
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Twemlow
    Cliff Twemlow (14 October 1937 – 5 May 1993) was an English actor, film screenwriter, producer, composer and novelist.[1] He is notable for pioneering, in the early 1980s, the production of independently-made low-budget films made for the home video market.
    Music
    In the early 1960s Twemlow began a successful career composing library music under the names Peter Reno and John Agar. His music was used in TV programmes (e.g., Public Eye, Rutland Weekend Television, The Benny Hill Show, Queenie's Castle , The Sweeney), feature films (e.g., Zeta One (1970), Secrets of Sex (1970), Deathdream (1974), A Touch of the Sun (1979), Dawn of the Dead (1978)) and TV commercials. He wrote "Distant Hills", the end credit theme of the ITV programme Crown Court (1972–1984), which was issued as the B-side to the Van der Valk theme "Eye Level" (Columbia DB 8946[3]).
    In 1973 he encountered legal problems with his song "Live and Let Die", recorded by Salena Jones. Although released shortly before Paul McCartney recorded his song with the same title for the film

    (1973), McCartney successfully took out an injunction against Twemlow.[4]


    Salena Jones Live and Let Die (2:37)

  • mattjoesmattjoes Pun Barrel
    edited 5:08am Posts: 7,276
    Nice tune! Love the reverb of the room. And still finding out new things about Bond music after all these years!

    The 70's arrangement and use of the Bond theme remind me of Franck Pourcel's version of the Bond theme. They make good companion pieces.



    Would be interesting to know more about this story.

    Since the song uses the Bond theme, and per Wikipedia, it was released before McCartney recorded his own theme, that means someone had to go request a licence for the Bond theme and it was granted. Did no one bat an eye when someone, filling out a form, wrote "Song name: Live and Let Die" or something? Perhaps it's not the business of the people who handle those things. And the title of the film was known since 1971 so it's not like the people behind this other song didn't know about it.

    And how did McCartney or his people (or EON's people, or UA's, whoever) find out? Is it standard procedure to look up recent songs with similar titles when registering a new one?

    And why did the McCartney song win out in the end? I wonder what the legal justification is for that. A cash-in attempt on the other party, presumably, one which would confuse people as to which was the official song? In fact, can someone today publish a Bondian-sounding song that quotes the Bond theme (with a paid license of course), or will it get blocked?

    Someone give us the full story! I'm going to have to check out the documentary.


    EDIT:

    More info (not from the documentary):

    "The same year however Cliff would encounter legal problems due to a song of his - recorded by Salena Jones - bearing the name ‘Live and Let Die’. Though released shortly before Paul McCartney recorded a song by the same name for the eponymous James Bond film, a court case was instigated by the publishers of the McCartney song and an injunction slammed on the Twemlow record. Twemlow’s defence was that it was simply an innocent example of two songs bearing the same title, unfortunately a “James Bond” style pose on the picture sleeve threw doubt on this, and the court found in favour of McCartney’s people. The Twemlow/Salena Jones record was subsequently withdrawn."

    (source: https://www.wefunkradio.com/song/play/981_at/peter+reno/silver+thrust)

    Of course it's not just the picture sleeve that gives away the deliberate Bond style, but the use of the Bond theme itself!

    The Salena Jones LALD song was composed by "Peter Reno", who is, in fact, Cliff Twemlow. And when I read he had composed for DeWolfe Library Music, I immediately remembered where I'd read the name that sounded familiar to me...



    That's right, he's the guy who did the Greek source music in FYEO. His LALD song was sabotaged, but he still managed to sneak his music into a later Bond film. LOL!


    EDIT AGAIN:

    Even more connections! This Twemlow guy wrote an autobiography, Tuxedo Warrior, adapted into a film in 1982 and starring... Erich Kriegl-- I mean John Wyman!

    Twemlow is like a winding vine, entangled in strange, unexpected ways into the history of the Bond films. I'm afraid I'm next going to find out his nephew was a key grip on No Time to Die or something.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 7:00am Posts: 19,332
    Funny it contains the lyric “Tomorrow may be never again” which is sort of a collision of a couple of future Bond titles! (And grammatically dubious of course!)
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