Would you rather a globe-trotting Bond adventure OR a Bond stays-put adventure?

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    thedove wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Good question 50-50 for me again.

    You are allowed to choose! :)

    Madonna gets 51 prosent.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Tina Turner has an amazing voice, Madonna is all show. And, tbh, one that's fighting the years, instead of gracefully accepting them.

    Tina Turner it is.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    edited September 16 Posts: 579
    Tina Turner has an amazing voice, Madonna is all show. And, tbh, one that's fighting the years, instead of gracefully accepting them.

    Tina Turner it is.

    I think you cant have a career like Madonna has had without any talent.
  • Posts: 16,106
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Tina Turner has an amazing voice, Madonna is all show. And, tbh, one that's fighting the years, instead of gracefully accepting them.

    Tina Turner it is.

    I think you cant have a career like Madonna has had without any talent.

    As a star, yes. As a singer, I'd argue that Madonna is rather limited.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    If I'm being 100% fair, Madonna is probably a bit more up my alley, since I am not averse to electropop. I've also never been a hater of the DAD song, and that's actually putting it mildly.

    However, Tina is the more talented singer, and seems to have been a much nicer person too (not my own experience ofc, but I've met several people in the industry who had to work with Madonna, and in general they weren't, uhm, overjoyed :p ).

    So the heart and the head say Tina, but the legs say Madonna. Is that fair? :))
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    If I'm being 100% fair, Madonna is probably a bit more up my alley, since I am not averse to electropop. I've also never been a hater of the DAD song, and that's actually putting it mildly.

    However, Tina is the more talented singer, and seems to have been a much nicer person too (not my own experience ofc, but I've met several people in the industry who had to work with Madonna, and in general they weren't, uhm, overjoyed :p ).

    So the heart and the head say Tina, but the legs say Madonna. Is that fair? :))

    Tina had better legs too! 😂
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    If I'm being 100% fair, Madonna is probably a bit more up my alley, since I am not averse to electropop. I've also never been a hater of the DAD song, and that's actually putting it mildly.

    However, Tina is the more talented singer, and seems to have been a much nicer person too (not my own experience ofc, but I've met several people in the industry who had to work with Madonna, and in general they weren't, uhm, overjoyed :p ).

    So the heart and the head say Tina, but the legs say Madonna. Is that fair? :))

    Tina had better legs too! 😂

    😅😅

    I was referring to my own legs, which implies I wasn't considering them from an artistic point of view, wouldn't stand a chance against either of them I'm afraid :))
  • Posts: 16,106
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    If I'm being 100% fair, Madonna is probably a bit more up my alley, since I am not averse to electropop. I've also never been a hater of the DAD song, and that's actually putting it mildly.

    However, Tina is the more talented singer, and seems to have been a much nicer person too (not my own experience ofc, but I've met several people in the industry who had to work with Madonna, and in general they weren't, uhm, overjoyed :p ).

    So the heart and the head say Tina, but the legs say Madonna. Is that fair? :))

    Tina had better legs too! 😂

    I don't want to sound crass, but i'd say better body. Way better voice, in any case.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Tina's voice had character and a roughness to it that drew you in. Madonna must be given credit for re-invention and the longevity of her career. I think her Austin Powers song is better than the one she did for Bond.

    Would you rather Bond globe-trot OR Bond stay put?

    As I reflect on the series we seem to end up with two type of adventures. One that require Bond globe-trot from country to country to stop the villain, in others Bond heads to one location and pretty much stays there for the entire movie.

    On the whole the globe-trotting adventures tend to be the big OTT adventures. It adds to the scale that Bond must take on an international chase after the villain. The quieter adventures tend to be ones that stay in one location for most of the film.

    The advantage of the stays put adventures is that they allow the setting to become a character. I think of DN and YOLT as a couple of stand outs. We really feel the setting in both films and it adds a richness to the story.

    Globetrotting: MR, DAD, GE, TND, CR, QOS, NTTD

    Stays Put: DN, FRWL, TB, YOLT, LTK, SF

    This not meant to be an extensive list, just some examples of the films that fit both types of adventures.

    You can either talk about the films already made, or choose based on the next adventure.

    Which type of Bond adventure do you prefer to watch?
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    I'd rather have Bond stay in one main location, at least for the next film. Ideally they should alternate: globetrotting, stay put, globetrotting, stay put, etc.

    By the way, for GE and CR, I don't feel the globetrotting that much because a large portion of the action is set in one place: Russia for GE and Montenegro for CR. Although that might be a false perception.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I like a bit of both, I think ideally we have one or two locations. FYEO is a great example of that. Greece is the main location but we also have Northern Italy as well.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I don't prefer one over the other, but it fascinates me how well early films like DN and TB in particular used their main location. Another film in that vein would be most welcome, and I love the idea of the location becoming another character. Bond delving into the variety of environments of the location, as well as the culture, cuisine and mingling with locals is sorely missed.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'm a sucker for a globetrot, I like a Bond to feel like an epic.

    And really globetrotter means three, maybe four locations at most, with perhaps another in the PTS. I do like ones like TB where you almost feel like you're there, and a location really ideally needs to be integral to the story. I love Skyfall, but until it gets to the UK I'd say you could swap out the foreign locations (Turkey, China) for anywhere else in the world and nothing would change- there's nothing unique about where they go which determines the sequences have to be set there (maybe with the exception of the Japanese island) and Bond doesn't even interact with anyone local. A city, a train, a beach, a skyscraper, a casino- could be anywhere really. M's inquiry and Bond's home on the other hand, have to be in the UK.

    I think something like Octopussy does it well: location 1 in PTS, then after that a bit of UK, then location 2 is India (which gets a decent amount of local colour), then location 3 Germany. Then, yes, a slightly unusual return to location 2!
    AVTAK does pretty much the same: PTS in Siberia, then it's France followed by the USA. Two main ones with a PTS works nicely.
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