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Good way of breaking down the differences between these 2 film styles @thedove
I think from the Moore era I might add TSWLM to the romantic films. I think I'd also add OP even though OP story and script wise really belongs more in the action film category the strong Roger Moore/Maud Adams chemistry backed up by John Barry's lush score tends to push it more romantic for me.
Since Connery opted not to make OHMSS we never really got to see his Bond in an OHMSS/TLD/CR type romance. However I think Tatiana from FRWL and Domino from TB are the two Bond girls his 007 came the closest to falling in love with IMHO.
@Ludovico Interesting points about Bond/Tatiana in FRWL. I think Bond/Kara in TLD is like a more OHMSS/CR romantic type version of that Bond/Tatiana relationship(the girl is a defector from an iron curtain country who is being used by the defecting Soviet military intelligence official and ends up falling for and aiding Bond and switches to his side). Connery's Bond was written more as a ladykiller and Dalton's Bond was written more as a classic romantic leading man so that would explain the variation.
Yes, there's probably a lot to that. I also think that regardless of Bond's feeling towards Tatiana in FRWL, the whole film is rather cynical and merciless towards love and romantic feelings. Love is a commodity in FRWL. To be traded, used, manipulated. If they want the next Bond to be the anti CR, I think that's the route they need to take.
Lets move on I was going to do a would you rather based on the actors first film or the actors last film. In other words, would you rather watch Sean in DN or DAF. and as I went through the actors it became clear that for most the first film would be a better watch than their last. Was this a reflection of an actor staying in the role for too long? Or did the quality drop off that much? Were the plots too outlandish by the end of the actors run. For this discussion I am really focusing on Sean, Roger, Pierce and Daniel.
I then started to think about the length of an actor in the role. Which leads me to the question at hand:
Would you rather the next fella do 2-3 films OR the next fella do 5-7 films?
I am keeping this to films as the days of a predictable production schedule seem to be behind us and I am not sure if Amazon is fully committed to a series. They might be seeing what the returns are for the box office they achieve. When you think that films making $590 million are unlikely to make much profit it does shift the landscape.
Given that, what is the optimal amount of films before we move on to another actor? In the legacy or early films, the role was handed off without "rebooting" or "restarting" the series. Given todays climate and audience expectation that might not play well. Does that impact how many films an actor does?
Craig's five films took over 10 years to be brought to the screen. If rumours are true it appears that Amazon is casting a younger actor to play the role, does this mean they are looking for a long run from the actor?
3 is a minimum
But actors often seem to get bored / stale around the 5 mark, or is that just a stereotype promoted by professional critics?
Once fans get comfortable with an actor they seem happy enough to continue regardless of age. I'm sure Craig-Bond would be welcomed back with open arms if he changed his mind and said he'd do a 6th, that is, if he hadn't been obliterated in NTTD...
I would say both. We are due for a main female villain. The general concept of Elektra done right.
Having a new writer is something we waiting on for very long, but Daniel Craig era bring back some things great things back. Inspecialy QOS and NTTD. It looks like it finaly go a bit to Roger Moore level. 12 years for 5 movies. Bond 28 should be released 5 years after Bond 26. That means Bond 28 should released 2 years after Bond 27. Example: 2027 - 2030 - 2032 - 2034 - 2037. That is actually 12 years if we count 2025 as start year. But if there can make 6. Pierce Brosnan was seen in Dante Speak in 1997 and Thomas Crown Affair in 1999, The Tailor of Panama in 2001 and Evelyn in 2002. if next actor can make 2 or mabey 3 none Bond movies in between.
I hope Denise and Steven wil stay for 2 movies and then we should get at least another directer and second/3th Writer. Denise can always do another one.
So it's a near surety.
I think most would agree with that! I have often wondered if Rog left then, would we have got the 3 Bond movies of Dalton that we deserved? And would they still have gone with AVTAK as his debut? Would have been great to see Tim face off against Walken, though I can't really see him in that pts or that Keystone Cops fire engine chase!
I would only want a short-tenured Bond actor if it was for the express reason that, at some point in the future, they wanted to do something like a very specific trilogy of films about Bond. Obviously having just had the Craig era, I don't think that should be a thing to happen for quite a long time if it ever does. Please give me a ton of films with one actor.
I think AVTAK would have been tailored to Dalton's strength and thus improved overall. Less comedic moments perhaps, a Bond more active and more dangerous. Still, I'm not sure if AVTAK would have made for a good debut for a Bond actor.
Would you rather add run time to QOS OR trim back NTTD?
Lets do a fantasy would you rather question!
Craig had the longest Bond film and the shortest Bond film. Which one would you rather see happen?
QOS, filmed during the writers strike was a brisk adventure. Some have said the film could have used for some more time for scenes to breath or be fleshed out. Would it have made the film better to not be at such a breakneck speed? More development for the relationship between Camille and Bond, more menace to Elvis or Greene? There are certainly plot points that might benefit from an extra scene or two. The run time of the film was 1hour and 46 minutes.
OR
NTTD, it was a massive mission for the film-makers to tie up all the loose ends of the Craig era. Could the film be better if it was a bit tighter? Did we need the car chase in Norway? Could the PTS be tightened up? Run time was 2 hours and 43 minutes.
What would you rather a longer QOS or a shorter NTTD?