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Would you rather watch a more romantic Bond film OR a more action based Bond film?

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  • BT3366BT3366
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    As Rog said in AVTAK, a little of both would be ideal.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    edited 12:26pm Posts: 3,287
    thedove wrote: »
    I think back to the series and we have some great films where our man is in love or at least the romance is played up. I think of FRWL, TLD, OHMSS, and perhaps CR. The story dictates romance either due to the story or the time the film was released.

    Then we have the more action heavy films where the romance is not front and centre. I think of TND, QOS, GE, FYEO, LALD, GF. These films still feature lovely ladies aiding Bond but their romance doesn't feed into the story.

    Good way of breaking down the differences between these 2 film styles @thedove

    I think from the Moore era I might add TSWLM to the romantic films. I think I'd also add OP even though OP story and script wise really belongs more in the action film category the strong Roger Moore/Maud Adams chemistry backed up by John Barry's lush score tends to push it more romantic for me.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    TB has a good balance of both and that's part of why it's one of the best.

    I conpletely agree with you, but sadly this is not really the consensus here.
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    a more adventurous Bond movie?
    thedove wrote: »
    I think back to the series and we have some great films where our man is in love or at least the romance is played up. I think of FRWL, TLD, OHMSS, and perhaps CR. The story dictates romance either due to the story or the time the film was released.

    4 great Bond films and solidly in my top 7. However, it's not so special if Bond "finds true love" with his leading lady in every film or every other film. About once a decade is enough for that type of Bond story IMHO.

    QBranch wrote: »
    TB has a good balance of both and that's part of why it's one of the best.

    +1

    Something that came to my mind regarding FRWL: I don't think it's a very romantic Bond film, at least in comparison to OHMSS, TLD and CR, all far more romantic than FRWL. In fact, I'd say FRWL is less romantic than OP or TWINE. In fact, for me FRWL is in many ways an anti-romantic film. Yes, Tanya falls in love, but this is not reciprocated, Bond pretty much pimping himself for Queen and Country. The movie is an exploration of sexual taboos and power dynamics.

    Since Connery opted not to make OHMSS we never really got to see his Bond in an OHMSS/TLD/CR type romance. However I think Tatiana from FRWL and Domino from TB are the two Bond girls his 007 came the closest to falling in love with IMHO.

    @Ludovico Interesting points about Bond/Tatiana in FRWL. I think Bond/Kara in TLD is like a more OHMSS/CR romantic type version of that Bond/Tatiana relationship(the girl is a defector from an iron curtain country who is being used by the defecting Soviet military intelligence official and ends up falling for and aiding Bond and switches to his side). Connery's Bond was written more as a ladykiller and Dalton's Bond was written more as a classic romantic leading man so that would explain the variation.

  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited 8:19am Posts: 15,991
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    I think back to the series and we have some great films where our man is in love or at least the romance is played up. I think of FRWL, TLD, OHMSS, and perhaps CR. The story dictates romance either due to the story or the time the film was released.

    Then we have the more action heavy films where the romance is not front and centre. I think of TND, QOS, GE, FYEO, LALD, GF. These films still feature lovely ladies aiding Bond but their romance doesn't feed into the story.

    Good way of breaking down the differences between these 2 film styles @thedove

    I think from the Moore era I might add TSWLM to the romantic films. I think I'd also add OP even though OP story and script wise really belongs more in the action film category the strong Roger Moore/Maud Adams chemistry backed up by John Barry's lush score tends to push it more romantic for me.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    TB has a good balance of both and that's part of why it's one of the best.

    I conpletely agree with you, but sadly this is not really the consensus here.
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    a more adventurous Bond movie?
    thedove wrote: »
    I think back to the series and we have some great films where our man is in love or at least the romance is played up. I think of FRWL, TLD, OHMSS, and perhaps CR. The story dictates romance either due to the story or the time the film was released.

    4 great Bond films and solidly in my top 7. However, it's not so special if Bond "finds true love" with his leading lady in every film or every other film. About once a decade is enough for that type of Bond story IMHO.

    QBranch wrote: »
    TB has a good balance of both and that's part of why it's one of the best.

    +1

    Something that came to my mind regarding FRWL: I don't think it's a very romantic Bond film, at least in comparison to OHMSS, TLD and CR, all far more romantic than FRWL. In fact, I'd say FRWL is less romantic than OP or TWINE. In fact, for me FRWL is in many ways an anti-romantic film. Yes, Tanya falls in love, but this is not reciprocated, Bond pretty much pimping himself for Queen and Country. The movie is an exploration of sexual taboos and power dynamics.

    Since Connery opted not to make OHMSS we never really got to see his Bond in an OHMSS/TLD/CR type romance. However I think Tatiana from FRWL and Domino from TB are the two Bond girls he came his 007 came the closest to falling in love with IMHO.

    @Ludovico Interesting points about Bond/Tatiana in FRWL. I think Bond/Kara in TLD is like a more OHMSS/CR romantic type version of that Bond/Tatiana relationship(the girl is a defector from an iron curtain country who is being used by the defecting Soviet military intelligence official and ends up falling for and aiding Bond and switches to his side). Connery's Bond was written more as a ladykiller and Dalton's Bond was written more as a classic romantic leading man so that would explain the variation.

    Yes, there's probably a lot to that. I also think that regardless of Bond's feeling towards Tatiana in FRWL, the whole film is rather cynical and merciless towards love and romantic feelings. Love is a commodity in FRWL. To be traded, used, manipulated. If they want the next Bond to be the anti CR, I think that's the route they need to take.
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