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Good writing.
Would you agree there's too many ancillary characters?
That was a big concern of mine when news broke of the movie casting a ton of superheroes, I worried Superman would get lost in the shuffle. However, I think Gunn actually managed to get the balance just right by treating those supporting characters as just supporting characters. We’re never given much or any backstory of Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner or Hawkgirl, because this is not their story. The Justice Gang is treated no differently from the Daily Planet staff, in that they serve a basic plot function and are given just enough characterization (with Mr. Terrific and Jimmy being the standouts in their respective groups).
I haven’t watched those shows but I’ve heard great things about Routh in LEGENDS OF TOMORROW where he’s allowed to shine in a way SR really didn’t let him. I think the most I’ve seen of him in anything beyond SR was SCOTT PILGRIM and he was great in that. Shows his comedic chops best.
I watched all of Legends of Tomorrow its one of the better CW shows, Routh was great as Ray Palmer, I bought all the crossover event DVD's they are good fun as a DC fan.
Great transition, there are some awesome moments in this film.
Supergirl is fire.
I agree Muschietti has a brilliant understanding of a great shot and emotional depth, The Flash IMO has some of the greatest comic book scenes in recent times.
That looked horrible to me. At least on YouTube. Why are they in a flat wasteland. Why are any humans even there to be at risk? I hate the characterization of the Flash(es). This movie should have never been released for various reasons. I wish the Zod actor, who says he regrets the role, hadn't come back. He should have stood his ground.
Would it not be more like 650/700 million to break even with advertising costs added? (the film cost, what, 220 million thereabouts? Advertising was an extra 100 million or so more from what I understand. To begin to make profit the film has to do double that amount. Could be wrong though or maybe there's something I'm missing).
Box office isn't always the biggest indicator of success at any rate, and I actually suspect in hindsight for all the hype/work put into advertising, they weren't expecting this film to break a billion or anything. And yes, ultimately we're dealing with numbers so high - both in terms of what it's made and what they spent on it - there's not really any clear cut way of defining its success, strange as it sounds. It'll have more delayed profitability with merchandise, home media, streaming residuals etc. More importantly it's kickstarted a new DC universe that they can expand upon. That's its win you could argue.
Is it the biggest financial success? No. Frankly I'd be surprised if it gets to 650 million. Yes, in terms of raw numbers I can imagine a scenario where Fantastic Four beats it this summer (Marvel, for all their flaws, have an established brand that with the right films can get people into the cinema. Corenswet’s Superman isn’t at that point yet, and short of a new Batman film I suspect neither is Gunn’s DC. But they are playing the long game here and there’s no reason it can’t grow).
For Superman ‘25, its second weekend drop was only 53%. That’s extremely impressive and shows that the movie has legs due to word of mouth. THE DARK KNIGHT for example had a 52% drop. And despite THE FANTASTIC FOUR debuting on the third weekend, the drop was still only at 57%.
Apparently the movie isn’t going to be made available digital for awhile, so it sounds like WB will try to keep it in theaters in order reach $600m. Only time will tell how it fairs for the rest of the summer.
Like I said, box office isn't always the best indicator of success here, and it's tempting to get hung up on numbers past a point (especially in the short term which isn't always useful). It's doing fine. Not amazing, but fine. If it's gaining an audience for further instalments that's the main thing. I wouldn't necessarily compare it to previous instalments.
Look at the Bond franchise DAD made $431.9 million in its run, while GE made $352 million, yet we would say that GE was a better movie. Fewer people saw it in the theatres, should butts in seats be a measure of success?
It is interesting how BO is used to make the case for failure, then others will use it to say "oh Box Office isn't that important".
I think it can be an indicator of success but not a defining one.
It would be inaccurate to say they’re outright flops. The issue was that they opened big but dropped like bricks in the long run, especially BvS. The worldwide opening for BvS would point to making a billion worldwide, but because the following weeks saw major drops in attendance, it was clear the movie did not have the legs. WB spent a lot more on BvS in terms of budget and marketing.
When you also factor in its box office and performance with the fact that it was poorly received by both audiences and critics, it’s understandable why WB went into panic mode over JL.
As for Bond, I don’t think that quite compares because Eon didn’t spend as much on marketing was WB did for DC projects. I can’t recall there ever being breakfast cereal tie ins for 007.