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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Superman vs. The Elite | End Fight Scene

    Good writing.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s weird to look back and see SR was almost 20 years ago. I do feel bad for Routh because I thought he was good casting, but he barely has any dialogue in that film. There’s a criticism of the new film that Superman feels like a guest star in his own film. That’s exactly how I felt about Superman in RETURNS. Where I feel like I got to know Corenswet’s Superman, Routh’s always feels distant and cold. That’s a fault I lay entirely on Singer trying to turn Superman into more of an alien loner. That might have worked for X-MEN, but I don’t think Superman was the right character for that approach.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Agree they did not allow Routh to do much in Superman Returns, Routh had a redemption of sorts in Crisis on Infinite Earths, he has some good dialogue in that crossover.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited July 24 Posts: 850
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The only actual set up in SUPERMAN ‘25 is the bit with
    Supergirl taking back Krypto.
    Otherwise the movie functions as a standalone story. There’s nothing else to really point to where Superman or other DC projects will go. Even the post-credits serve more as cute character moments rather than as teases for future films.

    Would you agree there's too many ancillary characters?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The only actual set up in SUPERMAN ‘25 is the bit with
    Supergirl taking back Krypto.
    Otherwise the movie functions as a standalone story. There’s nothing else to really point to where Superman or other DC projects will go. Even the post-credits serve more as cute character moments rather than as teases for future films.

    Would you agree there's too many ancillary characters?

    That was a big concern of mine when news broke of the movie casting a ton of superheroes, I worried Superman would get lost in the shuffle. However, I think Gunn actually managed to get the balance just right by treating those supporting characters as just supporting characters. We’re never given much or any backstory of Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner or Hawkgirl, because this is not their story. The Justice Gang is treated no differently from the Daily Planet staff, in that they serve a basic plot function and are given just enough characterization (with Mr. Terrific and Jimmy being the standouts in their respective groups).
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Agree they did not allow Routh to do much in Superman Returns, Routh had a redemption of sorts in Crisis on Infinite Earths, he has some good dialogue in that crossover.

    I haven’t watched those shows but I’ve heard great things about Routh in LEGENDS OF TOMORROW where he’s allowed to shine in a way SR really didn’t let him. I think the most I’ve seen of him in anything beyond SR was SCOTT PILGRIM and he was great in that. Shows his comedic chops best.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 26,163
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The only actual set up in SUPERMAN ‘25 is the bit with
    Supergirl taking back Krypto.
    Otherwise the movie functions as a standalone story. There’s nothing else to really point to where Superman or other DC projects will go. Even the post-credits serve more as cute character moments rather than as teases for future films.

    Would you agree there's too many ancillary characters?

    That was a big concern of mine when news broke of the movie casting a ton of superheroes, I worried Superman would get lost in the shuffle. However, I think Gunn actually managed to get the balance just right by treating those supporting characters as just supporting characters. We’re never given much or any backstory of Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner or Hawkgirl, because this is not their story. The Justice Gang is treated no differently from the Daily Planet staff, in that they serve a basic plot function and are given just enough characterization (with Mr. Terrific and Jimmy being the standouts in their respective groups).
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Agree they did not allow Routh to do much in Superman Returns, Routh had a redemption of sorts in Crisis on Infinite Earths, he has some good dialogue in that crossover.

    I haven’t watched those shows but I’ve heard great things about Routh in LEGENDS OF TOMORROW where he’s allowed to shine in a way SR really didn’t let him. I think the most I’ve seen of him in anything beyond SR was SCOTT PILGRIM and he was great in that. Shows his comedic chops best.

    I watched all of Legends of Tomorrow its one of the better CW shows, Routh was great as Ray Palmer, I bought all the crossover event DVD's they are good fun as a DC fan.
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