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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Denis Villeneuve to Direct)

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  • delfloriadelfloria
    edited June 26 Posts: 2,038
    Denis could do something VERY interesting with the TSWLM novel.
  • BurgessBurgess
    edited June 26 Posts: 465
    delfloria wrote: »
    Denis could do something VERY interesting with the TSWLM novel.

    I like that. I like that a lot, and, I think, you’re right. Would audiences respond positively to a Bond film in which Bond is not the point of view character, structured like Dr. No insofar as Dr. No not appearing until the second half of the second act but casting a large shadow over the first half of the movie? That’s not a leading question. I’m genuinely interested in taking the temperature of that idea.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
    Posts: 265
    delfloria wrote: »
    Denis could do something VERY interesting with the TSWLM novel.

    Problem is Bond is barely in that novel
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited June 27 Posts: 842
    Bond 26 will be better than Bond 25.
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
    Posts: 428
    I mean there could be an artsy take of TSWLM. Bond does have a job with some action in the story: he's saving a Russian defector from SPECTRE goons and Toronto gangs. Perhaps Viv could be linked to that main plot in some way and the first hour splits her and his perspectives evenly until they meet and Bond chases down Sluggsy and Horror (who are somehow linked to Bond's plot).
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
    Posts: 570
    Rather than stretching the TSWLM novel into something feature length I think it’s better suited to being condensed into a PTS. A beautiful woman in a remote location being harassed by some sinister goons during a storm…then a knock at the door revealing a shadowy figure and a crack of lightning reveals our new 007, cue some action scenes that are a little more high octane than the book describes.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited June 27 Posts: 785
    Hmmm, there's a fair amount of background about Québec in the novel TSWLM, but the social observations Fleming made are badly dated and have little to do with the reality of the place--even when he made them 60+ years ago.

    Villeneuve instantly becomes the second-most important Quebecer in the history of the franchise, after Harry Saltzman .... and arguably the second or third most important Canadian, give or take a Lois Maxwell.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited June 27 Posts: 815
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Bond 26 will be better than Bond 25.

    The question is; will it be as good as, or better than any of my favourites: Bond 2, Bond 3, Bond 6, Bond 16, or Bond 21?
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,805
    Feyador wrote: »
    Hmmm, there's a fair amount of background about Québec in the novel TSWLM, but the social observations Fleming made are badly dated and have little to do with the reality of the place--even when he made them 60+ years ago.

    Villeneuve instantly becomes the second-most important Quebecer in the history of the franchise, after Harry Saltzman .... and arguably the second or third most important Canadian, give or take a Lois Maxwell.

    Let's not forget Joseph Wiseman, also from Montreal.

    By the way, hello fellow Montrealer and belated bonne Saint-Jean!
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    Posts: 785
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Feyador wrote: »
    Hmmm, there's a fair amount of background about Québec in the novel TSWLM, but the social observations Fleming made are badly dated and have little to do with the reality of the place--even when he made them 60+ years ago.

    Villeneuve instantly becomes the second-most important Quebecer in the history of the franchise, after Harry Saltzman .... and arguably the second or third most important Canadian, give or take a Lois Maxwell.

    Let's not forget Joseph Wiseman, also from Montreal.

    By the way, hello fellow Montrealer and belated bonne Saint-Jean!
    Salut, mon compatriote montréalais! T’as ben raison, comment j’pouvais oublier ça!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,386
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Bond 26 will be better than Bond 25.

    The question is; will it be as good as, or better than any of my favourites: Bond 2, Bond 3, Bond 6, Bond 16, or Bond 21?

    I'm quite partial to Bond 15...
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited June 27 Posts: 340
    More intel

    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/6/26/villeneuve
  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 2,038
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Bond 26 will be better than Bond 25.

    The question is; will it be as good as, or better than any of my favourites: Bond 2, Bond 3, Bond 6, Bond 16, or Bond 21?

    Your setting the bar really high.
  • delfloriadelfloria
    edited June 27 Posts: 2,038
    From WOR: One notable shift: Amazon MGM seems to be moving on from longtime Bond scribes Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, who’ve been behind the wheel for every Craig-era entry (plus two Brosnan films). The new team is aiming for a clean slate.

    According to the report, Amazon MGM’s current plan is to bring on a co-writer who will begin scripting the film based on Villeneuve’s concept while the director finishes post-production on “Dune: Messiah.” Once ‘Messiah’ wraps, Villeneuve is expected to refine the draft, reshaping it to fit his own sensibilities before the casting process begins.

    To me, this indicates an actor for Bond who is not part of the current prospective line up.

    Reports say: Australian actor Jacob Elordi (“Euphoria,” “Saltburn”) and British actors Tom Holland (“Spider-Man Homecoming,” “Uncharted”) and Harris Dickinson (“Babygirl,” “The King’s Man”) are reportedly at the top of the list of James Bond candidates at Amazon MGM Studios.

    And................ Amazon is targeting a 2028 release date.
  • TommyOB007TommyOB007 DC
    Posts: 4
    delfloria wrote: »
    From WOR: One notable shift: Amazon MGM seems to be moving on from longtime Bond scribes Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, who’ve been behind the wheel for every Craig-era entry (plus two Brosnan films). The new team is aiming for a clean slate.

    According to the report, Amazon MGM’s current plan is to bring on a co-writer who will begin scripting the film based on Villeneuve’s concept while the director finishes post-production on “Dune: Messiah.” Once ‘Messiah’ wraps, Villeneuve is expected to refine the draft, reshaping it to fit his own sensibilities before the casting process begins.

    To me, this indicates an actor for Bond who is not part of the current prospective line up.

    Reports say: Australian actor Jacob Elordi (“Euphoria,” “Saltburn”) and British actors Tom Holland (“Spider-Man Homecoming,” “Uncharted”) and Harris Dickinson (“Babygirl,” “The King’s Man”) are reportedly at the top of the list of James Bond candidates at Amazon MGM Studios.

    And................ Amazon is targeting a 2028 release date.

    I don't want any of these actors to be Bond but Tom Holland would be a truly disastrous choice. I stand by the fact that Bond as a brand is big enough that you don't NEED a huge name attached. People will show up just to see who the new guy is. There's some British stage actor out there somewhere who would be perfect and I hope we don't miss out on that looking for a name.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 2,113
    delfloria wrote: »
    From WOR: One notable shift: Amazon MGM seems to be moving on from longtime Bond scribes Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, who’ve been behind the wheel for every Craig-era entry (plus two Brosnan films). The new team is aiming for a clean slate.

    According to the report, Amazon MGM’s current plan is to bring on a co-writer who will begin scripting the film based on Villeneuve’s concept while the director finishes post-production on “Dune: Messiah.” Once ‘Messiah’ wraps, Villeneuve is expected to refine the draft, reshaping it to fit his own sensibilities before the casting process begins.

    To me, this indicates an actor for Bond who is not part of the current prospective line up.

    Reports say: Australian actor Jacob Elordi (“Euphoria,” “Saltburn”) and British actors Tom Holland (“Spider-Man Homecoming,” “Uncharted”) and Harris Dickinson (“Babygirl,” “The King’s Man”) are reportedly at the top of the list of James Bond candidates at Amazon MGM Studios.

    Good! We need a clean slate of writers. And the new Bond actor should be known but not that know like Connery and Craig were.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,884
    Fresh writers - AT LAST!

    Tom Holland rumors - are we fools? The guy who loves Bond, respects tradition and the source material, started his fandom with Connery, ..., is going to chose Tom Holland or Timothée Chalamet?!? Nah :)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,974
    Univex wrote: »
    Fresh writers - AT LAST!

    Tom Holland rumors - are we fools? The guy who loves Bond, respects tradition and the source material, started his fandom with Connery, ..., is going to chose Tom Holland or Timothée Chalamet?!? Nah :)

    Yes, I think Villeneuve is much more wiser than everyone knows him to be, if he's a nonsense director who doesn't respect a material, Dune would've been just another Mad Max/Blade Runner rip off, but no, his Dune films were closer to their respective books than that 1980s version could ever be.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited 12:28am Posts: 6,884
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Fresh writers - AT LAST!

    Tom Holland rumors - are we fools? The guy who loves Bond, respects tradition and the source material, started his fandom with Connery, ..., is going to chose Tom Holland or Timothée Chalamet?!? Nah :)

    Yes, I think Villeneuve is much more wiser than everyone knows him to be, if he's a nonsense director who doesn't respect a material, Dune would've been just another Mad Max/Blade Runner rip off, but no, his Dune films were closer to their respective books than that 1980s version could ever be.

    True, and he took mediocre literature and turned it into first rate cinema. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know good literature from pulp. Even in the realm of science fiction, it's not as if Frank Herbert is Aldous Huxley or Orwell, or Wells, Asimov, Arthur C. Clark, Phillip K. Dick, ..., I mean, even between those, only Orwell and perhaps Huxley are respected writers amongst writers. It's not a top of the shelve genre. Nor is espionage, not even if you're talking about Le Carré. These are lesser genres, filled with world building geniuses but sub par writers. Same goes for fantasy and many other genres. So let's not be snobbish about it. The only top quality art here is the one Villeneuve makes.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,818
    Also, Amazon is getting Villeneuve at the top of his career (and I'm sure paying mightily for the privilege), which hasn't been the case with previous directors.
  • ColonelSunColonelSun
    Posts: 1,511
    Take any casting ideas, like Tom Holland, as a pinch of salt. Studios and Distributors always have their lists and in most cases the names they suggest are based on the actor's perceived market value and rarely if they are actually a right fit for a role. I'm deep into casting an independent film at the moment and you would howl with laughter if you saw the casting suggestions from the Sales companies - just so completely wrong for the characters written in the script. It's the age old clash between business and creativity.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited 9:41am Posts: 6,884
    echo wrote: »
    Also, Amazon is getting Villeneuve at the top of his career (and I'm sure paying mightily for the privilege), which hasn't been the case with previous directors.

    Yes, hadn't thought about that. That's very true :)
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Take any casting ideas, like Tom Holland, as a pinch of salt. Studios and Distributors always have their lists and in most cases the names they suggest are based on the actor's perceived market value and rarely if they are actually a right fit for a role. I'm deep into casting an independent film at the moment and you would howl with laughter if you saw the casting suggestions from the Sales companies - just so completely wrong for the characters written in the script. It's the age old clash between business and creativity.

    True, my friend. Life is still a satire, and always will be.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,541
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Take any casting ideas, like Tom Holland, as a pinch of salt. Studios and Distributors always have their lists and in most cases the names they suggest are based on the actor's perceived market value and rarely if they are actually a right fit for a role. I'm deep into casting an independent film at the moment and you would howl with laughter if you saw the casting suggestions from the Sales companies - just so completely wrong for the characters written in the script. It's the age old clash between business and creativity.

    Well, you help me to keep breathing. Thanks.

    Holland is one of the worst choices I've seen (along with Chalamet). Very relieved to have Villeneuve to direct, though. Re Bond actor: I think my salt shaker will be busy for several more weeks or even months.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,541
    delfloria wrote: »
    From WOR: One notable shift: Amazon MGM seems to be moving on from longtime Bond scribes Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, who’ve been behind the wheel for every Craig-era entry (plus two Brosnan films). The new team is aiming for a clean slate.

    According to the report, Amazon MGM’s current plan is to bring on a co-writer who will begin scripting the film based on Villeneuve’s concept while the director finishes post-production on “Dune: Messiah.” Once ‘Messiah’ wraps, Villeneuve is expected to refine the draft, reshaping it to fit his own sensibilities before the casting process begins.

    To me, this indicates an actor for Bond who is not part of the current prospective line up.

    Reports say: Australian actor Jacob Elordi (“Euphoria,” “Saltburn”) and British actors Tom Holland (“Spider-Man Homecoming,” “Uncharted”) and Harris Dickinson (“Babygirl,” “The King’s Man”) are reportedly at the top of the list of James Bond candidates at Amazon MGM Studios.

    And................ Amazon is targeting a 2028 release date.

    And you give me hope, too. Thanks.
    I'd like the current line-up to melt away ...
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,884
    echo wrote: »
    Also, Amazon is getting Villeneuve at the top of his career (and I'm sure paying mightily for the privilege), which hasn't been the case with previous directors.

    Yes, haven't thought about that. That's very true :)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,976
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    Amazon are definitely going to keep the gunbarrel, Bond theme, title song, title sequence, etc. They want to make us as happy as they can, because they know we didn't trust them earlier. The only thing is, the look of the film is definitely going to be very ultra-modern...which is a great thing.

    With all the talk of honoring the legacy of Eon’s franchise, I’ll be shocked if they don’t try to make it feel like a continuation in terms of franchising. Even while Craig films have bent the rules they still felt very Eon.

    Thats certainly what i am hoping for…

    Again there has never been a good non EON bond film so i am nervous about this
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,818
    I think it will be interesting to see if/how Craig endorses his successor. He is no fan of Bezos I'm thinking, and he is loyal to Eon (although Dalton is too).
  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 2,038
    Risico007 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    Amazon are definitely going to keep the gunbarrel, Bond theme, title song, title sequence, etc. They want to make us as happy as they can, because they know we didn't trust them earlier. The only thing is, the look of the film is definitely going to be very ultra-modern...which is a great thing.

    With all the talk of honoring the legacy of Eon’s franchise, I’ll be shocked if they don’t try to make it feel like a continuation in terms of franchising. Even while Craig films have bent the rules they still felt very Eon.

    Thats certainly what i am hoping for…

    Again there has never been a good non EON bond film so i am nervous about this

    But there have been some bad EON Bond films so..............................

    My question though is should Amazon just use the EON 007 trademark logos without changing them or give them a new spin?
  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 2,038
    echo wrote: »
    I think it will be interesting to see if/how Craig endorses his successor. He is no fan of Bezos I'm thinking, and he is loyal to Eon (although Dalton is too).


    Is there a separation between being a Bond fan and a Eon fan?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,357
    echo wrote: »
    I think it will be interesting to see if/how Craig endorses his successor. He is no fan of Bezos I'm thinking, and he is loyal to Eon (although Dalton is too).

    He won’t say anything until he’s directly asked, at which point he’ll wish the new actor luck and say he’s a good choice. He’s not going to be unprofessional about it.
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