EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Posts: 1,996
    If the director is someone important, he/she will surely be the one to develop the project.
  • edited May 23 Posts: 5,278
    I suppose in this case the producers will come up with the broad ideas of what they want, hire writers (or a writer director) to work on the treatment and/or script, and from there hire a director and continue to develop it.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.
  • Posts: 1,996
    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.

    Unlikely. They just need to hire the best director available.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.

    Unlikely. They just need to hire the best director available.

    So Speilberg then. Funnily enough is making a Josh O'Connor film at the moment, to be released in 2026.
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    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.

    Unlikely. They just need to hire the best director available.

    They need a director who they can collaborate with easily and can best execute their vision. That doesn't mean the best director. Hence the lack of Nolan doing a Bond film (if you consider him the best director around).
  • Posts: 1,996
    Mallory wrote: »
    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.

    Unlikely. They just need to hire the best director available.

    They need a director who they can collaborate with easily and can best execute their vision. That doesn't mean the best director. Hence the lack of Nolan doing a Bond film (if you consider him the best director around).

    I see a lot of literality here. I mean, it's not that difficult. This isn't like going to the moon.

    I'm sure they already have a list of possible directors. Maybe they just need to listen to their pitches.

    I don't think Pascal and Heyman have the same creative involvement as Barbara and Michael.
  • Posts: 15,690
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played. As Denbigh he's just annoying and Fiennes completely dominates him. I would rather have had a lesser known but more believable actor in the role. Sam Throughton had played an evil civil servant version of Edmond in King Lear a year before, directed by... Sam Mendes. I wished Mendes had cast him instead.
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    Yeah, unfortunately we're not yet at the developing stage yet, we're still at the ideas/finishing other work commitments phase. It could well end up that Bond 26 becomes one of the last blockbusters to close out the 2020's.

    Unlikely. They just need to hire the best director available.

    So Speilberg then. Funnily enough is making a Josh O'Connor film at the moment, to be released in 2026.

    No, please not Spielberg. I always enjoy a new Spielberg film, yet never feel the need to watch any of his films again (except for Duel and Jaws). For me, there is something superficial about his work, which makes them forgettable
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played.

    Yeah, I thought John Simm played a very similar role in Dr Who as the Master around the same time, and was so much better at mixing the humour and threat.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    As Denbigh he's just annoying and Fiennes completely dominates him. I would rather have had a lesser known but more believable actor in the role. Sam Throughton had played an evil civil servant version of Edmond in King Lear a year before, directed by... Sam Mendes. I wished Mendes had cast him instead.

    I've said it before and will say it again even though it wasn't my idea: put Helen McCrory in the C role and you've made the film ten times better instantly. Plus you've made it link to Skyfall and actually helped the idea that Blofeld was behind Silva seem a bit more plausible.
  • edited May 22 Posts: 5,278
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played.

    Yeah, I thought John Simm played a very similar role in Dr Who as the Master around the same time, and was so much better at mixing the humour and threat.

    That's a good comparison. I feel everyone was trying way too hard to make Moriarty humorously menacing in that show (between Scott's performance and the writing anyway), and it crossed into hammy.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Aaron Taylor-Johnson has become an Omega watch brand ambassador...

    https://www.omegawatches.com/stories/aaron-taylor-johnson-joins-omega-as-a-brand-ambassador
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Aaron Taylor-Johnson has become an Omega watch brand ambassador...

    https://www.omegawatches.com/stories/aaron-taylor-johnson-joins-omega-as-a-brand-ambassador

    Hmmmmmm :-?
  • edited May 22 Posts: 5,278
    I knew the ATJ as Bond rumours had been too quiet lately! Full circle as they say.

    Omega have a number of actors who are ambassadors, don't they? Not sure I'd read too much into it.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Word is ATJ has already filmed his wristwatch scene. In space.
  • Posts: 15,690
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played.

    Yeah, I thought John Simm played a very similar role in Dr Who as the Master around the same time, and was so much better at mixing the humour and threat.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    As Denbigh he's just annoying and Fiennes completely dominates him. I would rather have had a lesser known but more believable actor in the role. Sam Throughton had played an evil civil servant version of Edmond in King Lear a year before, directed by... Sam Mendes. I wished Mendes had cast him instead.

    I've said it before and will say it again even though it wasn't my idea: put Helen McCrory in the C role and you've made the film ten times better instantly. Plus you've made it link to Skyfall and actually helped the idea that Blofeld was behind Silva seem a bit more plausible.

    Oh yes, that would have worked too, and beautifully. She was an amazing actress. She could easily give that vibe, authoritarian decision maker who does everything wrong, but has the full confidence of the government.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played.

    Yeah, I thought John Simm played a very similar role in Dr Who as the Master around the same time, and was so much better at mixing the humour and threat.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    As Denbigh he's just annoying and Fiennes completely dominates him. I would rather have had a lesser known but more believable actor in the role. Sam Throughton had played an evil civil servant version of Edmond in King Lear a year before, directed by... Sam Mendes. I wished Mendes had cast him instead.

    I've said it before and will say it again even though it wasn't my idea: put Helen McCrory in the C role and you've made the film ten times better instantly. Plus you've made it link to Skyfall and actually helped the idea that Blofeld was behind Silva seem a bit more plausible.

    That was my idea, soon after I finished watching Peaky Blinders. We needed more McCrory, even in SF. She also would have been an excellent M successor. RIP.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's a top idea echo, all credit to you!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Her death is such a sad loss...her star was clearly on the rise and she would have been cast in and excellent in films of all genres.
  • Posts: 15,690
    echo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I think both the versions of Sherlock at that time were excellent. The Ritchie films were a more sort of comedy action version of it, but that's a valid interpretation and they were very entertaining. Some of the best stuff he's ever done, I'd say.
    I agree that Scott wasn't great in it though: doing that 'Joker'-style baddie acting isn't as easy as it seems. I still don't really know why the Bond folk picked him for Spectre.

    I've read his interpretation dubbed "Jokerarty". Fitting. Circa 2015 Scott was hot property. I never thought he came off as very threatening in any villainous role he played.

    Yeah, I thought John Simm played a very similar role in Dr Who as the Master around the same time, and was so much better at mixing the humour and threat.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    As Denbigh he's just annoying and Fiennes completely dominates him. I would rather have had a lesser known but more believable actor in the role. Sam Throughton had played an evil civil servant version of Edmond in King Lear a year before, directed by... Sam Mendes. I wished Mendes had cast him instead.

    I've said it before and will say it again even though it wasn't my idea: put Helen McCrory in the C role and you've made the film ten times better instantly. Plus you've made it link to Skyfall and actually helped the idea that Blofeld was behind Silva seem a bit more plausible.

    That was my idea, soon after I finished watching Peaky Blinders. We needed more McCrory, even in SF. She also would have been an excellent M successor. RIP.

    She was amazing as Medea. I created an entire thread about her.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Avengers: Secret Wars just moved to Dec 2027, I think that effectively ends the chances of Bond releasing during that period.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Avengers: Secret Wars just moved to Dec 2027, I think that effectively ends the chances of Bond releasing during that period.

    Ehh they can do October 2027 or even November 2027. With the exception of SF, I feel that recent Bond films taper off in the USA within 4 weeks
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    I don’t see the next Avengers film making that much of a splash if I’m being totally honest. Even with the amount of old characters from older films returning - I think people are starting to get sick and tired of seeing comic book films dominate theaters. The days of Marvel films breaking records like Infinity War and Endgame are long behind them now. If Bond 26 was to come out in November 2027, I think it’d do well enough on its own regardless of competition.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited May 23 Posts: 2,597
    I don’t see the next Avengers film making that much of a splash if I’m being totally honest. Even with the amount of old characters from older films returning - I think people are starting to get sick and tired of seeing comic book films dominate theaters. The days of Marvel films breaking records like Infinity War and Endgame are long behind them now. If Bond 26 was to come out in November 2027, I think it’d do well enough on its own regardless of competition.

    True. People are tired of Marvel films.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited May 23 Posts: 1,884
    I don’t see the next Avengers film making that much of a splash if I’m being totally honest. Even with the amount of old characters from older films returning - I think people are starting to get sick and tired of seeing comic book films dominate theaters. The days of Marvel films breaking records like Infinity War and Endgame are long behind them now. If Bond 26 was to come out in November 2027, I think it’d do well enough on its own regardless of competition.

    True. People are tired of Marvel films.

    I think these delays are helpful to a much needed break between films. It just shouldn't be in the order they're doing it, the break should come after the big finale, not right before it. Oh well. There's definitely fatigue and they need to do something. I'm sure it will make a billion, but maybe not 2 billion again. There will be what, two years, of streaming time for people to watch Thunderbolts, Cap4, and FF, so maybe hype will slowly rebuild. Of course, we could be looking at a disaster in the making not seen since, what, Cleopatra?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I have zero interest in Marvel past Endgame. With the exception being Spiderman NWH only for the nostalgia factor. I did enjoy everything leading up to Endgame and I still do. Perfect films to shut your brain off towards.
  • edited May 23 Posts: 5,278
    I don’t see the next Avengers film making that much of a splash if I’m being totally honest. Even with the amount of old characters from older films returning - I think people are starting to get sick and tired of seeing comic book films dominate theaters. The days of Marvel films breaking records like Infinity War and Endgame are long behind them now. If Bond 26 was to come out in November 2027, I think it’d do well enough on its own regardless of competition.

    True. People are tired of Marvel films.

    To be fair people claim that, and they certainly have had their under-performers as of late. But when something big/notable comes from them (something like a Spiderman, Guardians 3, or a Deadpool/Wolverine) audiences go to see them and they do pretty good numbers. So while I'm not uncynical about Marvel, I can definitely imagine hype and people wanting to see a new Avengers film.
  • Posts: 2,260
    With the mixed reception to the latest (and possibly last) Mission Impossible, the timing is right for a relaunch of 007 into a new era. MI aside, I would struggle to name another Spy Action series in the same genre as Bond.
  • edited May 23 Posts: 5,278
    Interestingly one thing I've heard a lot about the new MI film is that it's a bit predictable in places. I don't know exactly what Amazon want from a new Bond film, but it does show that the franchise can afford to take some thought out creative risks and still have a good chance of success (hell, a lot of the Craig era should be able to tell you that). Obviously anyone can go too far in this area (and yes, ultimately Amazon will want to reassure audiences that they can essentially make a James Bond film), but at the same time there's no reason to aim as low as a safe, 'by the numbers' affair either, and they may as well commit to reimagining the character for a new era.
  • Posts: 1,996
    The worst thing they can do is a Craig movie without Craig.
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