Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Hopefully, any new Bind will follow Craig's lead, ignore the confirmation bias seeking losers and stick to the character they want.
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    As soon as they get an actor with charisma who knows how to pull off that lightness of touch people will be like putty in their hands.

    They just need someone with charisma and good looks. If he is sexy enough there will be no problem.

    Exactly..................It is not rocket science.................but then what is?
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    There's a problem somewhere then. Let me know when charisma and being sexy pays the rent.
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    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.

    Just click it and read it, jesus.

    It says Cuaron is in talks for two Bond films.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.


    Oh, we'll have a period Bond someday, but I don't think it'll be now.

    You can't always update the character.

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    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.


    Oh, we'll have a period Bond someday, but I don't think it'll be now.

    You can't always update the character.

    Never say never, but I think you can. Otherwise there’d be no point continuing with him on film.

    Anyway, a ‘period’ Bond film would simply be a modern film set in the past. It doesn’t mean the character will go back fully to how he was in those early films. I don’t think that would ever be the point of such a Bond film. So better to keep it in the present I’d say.
    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.

    Just click it and read it, jesus.

    It says Cuaron is in talks for two Bond films.

    Why? It’s not going to be fully true anyway. Though it’s a good conversation starter for this thread I suppose.
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    Sure, It wouldn't be a Connery movie but it doesn't matter, at some point they will have to return to Fleming and the Cold War.

    It happened with the books after all. Why wouldn't it happen with the movies?

    At some point, they'll realize that a modern Bond just doesn't feel right. It won't happen today, but it will happen.
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    Sure, It wouldn't be a Connery movie but it doesn't matter, at some point they will have to return to Fleming and the Cold War.

    It happened with the books after all. Why wouldn't it happen with the movies?

    Well, I personally don’t think IFP are a company to emulate having read some of those recent continuation novels and seen what they have lined up. But that’s just me.

    Again, never say never, but I think a big part of Bond’s appeal on film is that it’s always modern, especially in terms of the threats he takes on. As it is now I don’t think it would feel like a cinematic Bond if we went back (or at least it would be a bit weird). I think it’s only a certain chunk of fans who want it really.
    At some point, they'll realize that a modern Bond just doesn't feel right. It won't happen today, but it will happen.

    Worth saying creatively filmmakers always have agency in how they adapt the character. There’s a lot they can do. If we’re getting to this hypothetical point I’d say just scrap the character on film. If he can’t work in a modern film he won’t work on a modern film set in the past.
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    That's what period fiction was invented for.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I agree. With Amazon in charge now, pretty much anything can happen. A period Bond wouldn't entirely be out of the ordinary. Keeping Bond "classy" in a world that persistently defies that is extremely difficult, so I'm not sure I'd be against it either. Some of Richie's Man From U.N.C.L.E. balanced with a little Austin Powers -- I said "a little"! -- might work just fine.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.

    Just click it and read it, jesus.

    It says Cuaron is in talks for two Bond films.

    I do wish though sometimes folks would say what's in a link before posting it. Sometimes I don't want to go through all the pop-ups and GDPR cookies notices just to find out why it's been posted. I'm not saying that's fully the case here, just that it rankles on other occasions. And maybe I might not want to give the Mail any of my clicks! :)

    There's not a huge amount in this one, although I thank weboffear for posting it. It's mostly just Matthew Field saying what's likely to happen (and I suspect most of the article is just the journa paraphrasing him where she's not quoting him) and he's not saying anything that isn't sensible, but it's not based on anything solid.
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    That's what period fiction was invented for.

    Yes, and I don’t think it’d give a majority of Bond viewers what they enjoy from Bond films ultimately. It might do for the novels (different mediums and often different fans). But in the short term I don’t think it’d work for a new Bond movie. Again, never say never. That said if a future Bond film was set in the past I’m not sure I’d go to the cinema and watch it. It just wouldn’t get me interested.
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
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    Period-piece Bond would be a great place for Amazon to explore (for instance, adapting some of the short stories) as content between releases in the official series. Would also be a great place to build the farm team for the official series.
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    I’d say for better or for worse, James Bond as we know the character is through the movies, at least for the vast majority of people. He’s somewhat fixed in his personality/attitudes and habits, but ultimately he always moves through the modern world and takes on modern day threats.

    Take that away and you might have, say, a deferential tv series to Fleming’s novels (which is a bit pointless as many are already wonderful films which arguably surpass those novels) or perhaps a Guy Ritchie type Man From U.N.C.L.E. thing (which is ultimately a bit shallow and likely will dodge acknowledging Bond’s complexities). Even if you get a decent film set in the 50s/60s it’s just not the cinematic James Bond that’s gotten us to this point. And hey, maybe that’s what some fans want, but I think by the point we feel this is ‘needed’ the risk is being taken the character is no longer adaptable or relevant. Which would be a shame.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah doing it in period would just detach it slightly more from the audience, and it doesn't need to be. I don't see what's to be gained by doing it that way, there's just no need to do it. Feels like it would be a gimmick and nothing more to me.
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    I can definitely see some audiences being put off of such a Bond movie and it appealing to a much more narrow group of fans. It’s quite a noteworthy change in direction and without some sort of incentive to go and see it even I’d give it a miss in cinemas.

    And hey, maybe Bond will get to a point where its audience is so narrow this would be the right thing to do. But we’re not there yet and Bonds audience is still pretty wide (and can get bigger) just by it being ‘the new Bond film’.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely see some audiences being put off of such a Bond movie and it appealing to a much more narrow group of fans. It’s quite a noteworthy change in direction and without some sort of incentive to go and see it even I’d give it a miss in cinemas.

    And hey, maybe Bond will get to a point where its audience is so narrow this would be the right thing to do. But we’re not there yet and Bonds audience is still pretty wide (and can get bigger) just by it being ‘the new Bond film’.
    It states it in the first sentence then shot the idea of a period piece down in the next by quoting a source close to Heyman. It's honestly a weird article for that reason.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah doing it in period would just detach it slightly more from the audience, and it doesn't need to be. I don't see what's to be gained by doing it that way, there's just no need to do it. Feels like it would be a gimmick and nothing more to me.

    The thing is, one day it will be necessary. Someone drinking martinis in his tuxedo will no longer be modern. ;)

    Spies can be computer nerds. No expensive clothes or fast cars.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2 Posts: 17,878
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely see some audiences being put off of such a Bond movie and it appealing to a much more narrow group of fans. It’s quite a noteworthy change in direction and without some sort of incentive to go and see it even I’d give it a miss in cinemas.

    And hey, maybe Bond will get to a point where its audience is so narrow this would be the right thing to do. But we’re not there yet and Bonds audience is still pretty wide (and can get bigger) just by it being ‘the new Bond film’.
    It states it in the first sentence then shot the idea of a period piece down in the next by quoting a source close to Heyman. It's honestly a weird article for that reason.

    It's the Mail 8-} 🤷

    I wonder how much of the comments under the article are about how it'll be awful because of woke.
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    I would hope the main goal of any producer in charge of Bond is to keep the character and those sorts of traits as fresh and modern as possible. Again, a period piece is potentially an admission of defeat in that sense. But hey, like I said the audience might get so narrow it’d be necessary.
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely see some audiences being put off of such a Bond movie and it appealing to a much more narrow group of fans. It’s quite a noteworthy change in direction and without some sort of incentive to go and see it even I’d give it a miss in cinemas.

    And hey, maybe Bond will get to a point where its audience is so narrow this would be the right thing to do. But we’re not there yet and Bonds audience is still pretty wide (and can get bigger) just by it being ‘the new Bond film’.
    It states it in the first sentence then shot the idea of a period piece down in the next by quoting a source close to Heyman. It's honestly a weird article for that reason.

    Thought so. I don’t think anyone’s expecting a period piece Bond 26 at any rate.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Since62 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I want a massive skydiving sequence in a Bond film. Forget Moonraker, forget Fallout. I want fifty people dropping out of planes and fighting fifty other people mid-air, and Bond in the middle of it all. I don't care what it costs. I don't care how you explain it. Just make it happen.

    -- Harry "mattjoes" Saltzman

    It wouldn't work unless Bond fights a shark

    Would this be a skydiving shark or one in the water upon landing from a skydive ? Are you - gasp - proposing a Bond-Nado film ? That would be too much excitement in one movie and, let's face it, people could die...in the audience, I mean. Not in the film. In the film it would be make-believe.

    OMG, they're in a giant zoo transportation plane! And there's a tank with a shark. And another tank with a giant squid. And they all get dropped out of the plane with Bond and chaos ensues...
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Haven't been on in a few weeks. Anything new?
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    Haven't been on in a few weeks. Anything new?

    Nope.
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    To me the key elements of a good Bond film are simple: Gadgets, beautiful women, threatening villans, and style. A plausible plot holds it all together, and impressive stunts/special effects.
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    Haven't been on in a few weeks. Anything new?

    The rumor mill now has Cuaron possibly directing two of the films. That might indicate that Cuaron IS the most likely director at this moment.
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    echo wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I want a massive skydiving sequence in a Bond film. Forget Moonraker, forget Fallout. I want fifty people dropping out of planes and fighting fifty other people mid-air, and Bond in the middle of it all. I don't care what it costs. I don't care how you explain it. Just make it happen.

    -- Harry "mattjoes" Saltzman

    It wouldn't work unless Bond fights a shark

    Would this be a skydiving shark or one in the water upon landing from a skydive ? Are you - gasp - proposing a Bond-Nado film ? That would be too much excitement in one movie and, let's face it, people could die...in the audience, I mean. Not in the film. In the film it would be make-believe.

    OMG, they're in a giant zoo transportation plane! And there's a tank with a shark. And another tank with a giant squid. And they all get dropped out of the plane with Bond and chaos ensues...

    YOU ARE SOOOOO ONTO SOMETHING HERE !!!

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    Bond doesn't need the sixties. There's simply no point. I'm a child of the sixties who grew up on Bond and have zero desire to see a retro Bond.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It’s the Daily Mail so I’m expecting very little in there. I presume it doesn’t come out with anything too mad or anything that hasn’t been rumoured in the past few months?

    I’ve always said Bond should be set in the present though (I feel setting a Bond film in the 60s is an admission the character can no longer be done in a modern setting, which I just don’t think has ever been true). That said we’ve had an Australian and Irish Bond so the ‘British’ rule isn’t as fixed in my opinion. But it’s ideal.

    Just click it and read it, jesus.

    It says Cuaron is in talks for two Bond films.

    I still think that the next two Bond films could be filmed back to back. They could learn from EON's mistake made from CR to QOS, or SP to NTTD. Every Bond actor's second film came no more than two years after their first. Matthew Field is just guessing, and that's fine. Also, I imagine that IFP might try to fix a relationship with Amazon, (originally a book publisher) to help them get better advertising campaigns for future Bond books. EON didn't help them out as much as they arguably could have.
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