Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Posts: 530

    If you are seeing something on a Twitter account that's not from a reputable publication, take it with a few pinches of salt.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    BMB007 wrote: »

    If you are seeing something on a Twitter account that's not from a reputable publication, take it with a few pinches of salt.

    Yes, I think that's a very good rule of thumb with these things. We've seen it happen too many times before.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Agreed. Aston Martin and Omega are part and parcel.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Aston Martin so long as it’s not the DBX
  • Posts: 6,687
    Benny wrote: »
    Aston Martin so long as it’s not the DBX
    Yes, this.
    And Omega. I simply love Omega. Two very iconic partnerships.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2023 Posts: 8,236
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 127
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story

    Yes, these scenes in Cuba were great and the best of the film. A whole movie with similar fun and energy would be great.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story

    Yes, these scenes in Cuba were great and the best of the film. A whole movie with similar fun and energy would be great.

    They should hire PWB to do the script. This section was clearly all her and infused by her energy.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    peter wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.

    Peter’s sarcasm goes up to eleven.
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    I always say the thing about that section of NTTD is that it’s one of tonal contrasts. It’s got the more fun chase/action moments, but only after what is, I’d argue, one of the most horrifying scenes in Bond (the SPECTRE agents dying).

    In that sense a whole film of that would be a similar mixture of tones. Not unlike what NTTD is as a whole. But honestly, sequences like the Cuba one in NTTD work when they’re used sparingly. A whole film with that ‘fun’ tone consistently wouldn’t feel right.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    echo wrote: »
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story

    Yes, these scenes in Cuba were great and the best of the film. A whole movie with similar fun and energy would be great.

    They should hire PWB to do the script. This section was clearly all her and infused by her energy.

    I kind of hope she comes back. With an acting role too.
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    ...much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    Is this an opinion or did they actually say this?
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited October 2023 Posts: 9,048
    peter wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.

    Peter’s sarcasm goes up to eleven.

    Well @sandbagger1 , if it was as easy as presented, we’d all be churning out new 007 scripts every six months. If it was really that easy, we’d all be watching amazing films every week when films are released.

    If that’s a crime to point out, please take it to the PMs and we can discuss further. I’d be happy to.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    peter wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.

    Peter’s sarcasm goes up to eleven.

    Well @sandbagger1 , if it was as easy as presented, we’d all be churning out new 007 films every six months. If it was really that easy, we’d all be watching amazing films every week when films are released.

    If that’s a crime to point out, please take it to the PMs and we can discuss further. I’d be happy to.
    Peter, it wasn’t a criticism.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    peter wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.

    Peter’s sarcasm goes up to eleven.

    Well @sandbagger1 , if it was as easy as presented, we’d all be churning out new 007 films every six months. If it was really that easy, we’d all be watching amazing films every week when films are released.

    If that’s a crime to point out, please take it to the PMs and we can discuss further. I’d be happy to.
    Peter, it wasn’t a criticism.

    I was just expanding, in case you thought it was a pointless use of sarcasm, @sandbagger1

    In the end, scriptwriting is genuinely my passion and my job. But there are many people I’ve encountered over the years that think that, just because they watch movies, they think they could also easily write, not just any script, but an amazing script.

    When I first started out, I was a reader for a company and I can tell you: out of every fifty scripts, you’d be lucky to find two or three that *could-maybe-possibly* work with a few more rewrites…

    It’s a tough gig, and although it may not be rocket science, it also is far from slapping a few scenes together and typing “The End” on the final page.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    peter wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    They should just take the ana de armas section of Bond 25 and use that as the blueprint for a whole story, much like the opening of DAD was built on for Casino Royale.

    It's not rocket science.

    Yeah, it’s that simple.

    Peter’s sarcasm goes up to eleven.

    Well @sandbagger1 , if it was as easy as presented, we’d all be churning out new 007 films every six months. If it was really that easy, we’d all be watching amazing films every week when films are released.

    If that’s a crime to point out, please take it to the PMs and we can discuss further. I’d be happy to.
    Peter, it wasn’t a criticism.

    I was just expanding, in case you thought it was a pointless use of sarcasm, @sandbagger1

    In the end, scriptwriting is genuinely my passion and my job. But there are many people I’ve encountered over the years that think that, just because they watch movies, they think they could also easily write, not just any script, but an amazing script.

    When I first started out, I was a reader for a company and I can tell you: out of every fifty scripts, you’d be lucky to find two or three that *could-maybe-possibly* work with a few more rewrites…

    It’s a tough gig, and although it may not be rocket science, it also is far from slapping a few scenes together and typing “The End” on the final page.

    I’m well aware of this. I’ve seen lots of films/tv shows that have great ideas and scripts that should work, but don’t. It’s not always clear to me why. Lots of things that look good on the page can fall horribly flat on the screen if any one of a number of people implementing them are not in tune with the material. I’ve even seen a few films that work even though the scripts stopped making sense during one of the many rewrites. As they say, it’s an art, not a science.
  • I really really hope that PWB won't co-write Bond 26. Don't get me wrong, I do like her, but if she is involved that would indicate that Nolan isn't.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I’m not saying anything directly to you, @sandbagger1 … but more responding to the original post I replied to.

  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Said it before but, as glorious as Paloma was, I'd prefer a whole film like Matera, rather than one like Cuba.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Said it before but, as glorious as Paloma was, I'd prefer a whole film like Matera, rather than one like Cuba.

    I couldn't agree more. I never wanted to leave Matera. The Cuba sequence simply doesn't work for me, because NTTD is a dirge. The Cuba sequence fits Moore and Brosnan more. Matera is tailor-made for Bonds like Connery, Lazenby, Dalton & of course, Craig.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 12,837
    peter wrote: »
    but the producers have supposedly also taken an active role in the video game development.

    That’s interesting, because they haven’t really in the past, far as I know. I think one of the kids was involved in 007 Legends in some capacity. But I’ve never heard about the producers taking an active role before.

    Makes me even more optimistic about it, seems like it’s being valued more than the cheap feeling Craig era games were and makes me wonder if we might actually get a story on par with the films for a change. I think a few video games have managed that now, but Bond has always struggled to not feel like “just” a game, a tie in, secondary to the films. Everything about this one suggests they want it to be good enough to stand on its own. Cheers @peter.
    I think both Aston and Omega simply pay too much money to not be involved in Bond. They'd only be usurped if someone came in with a bigger wallet.

    Yeah, I would like to see him driving something else now, for the sake of variety. I agree with those saying the new Bentleys don’t suit him, but I think a nice 90s Continental T taking the Blower/DB5 slot, Bond’s personal classic, would be cool. And I’d love to see him in a Jag (an F Type, or maybe the XE Project 8).

    But I can’t see it happening. Aston might not have a foreign owner with as deep pockets as the other two, but I don’t think anyone would pay as much as them for Bond anymore. They know they made a big mistake letting it go in the 90s and the link is a big part of their brand’s appeal. Jag and Bentley don’t really need Bond in the same way. And the longer he drives an Aston, the more that brand becomes part of the iconography and the more reluctant EON will be to switch.

    I do think it’s a shame though. I love Astons and I know that’s the car he’ll always be most closely associated with, but Bond doesn’t seem like the type to really be loyal to one marquee to me when it comes to cars. And the car is such a big part of the film and the marketing that I think something that looked very different styling wise would help set the new geezer apart from Craig. Plus, if this is it and he’s going to just drive Astons forever now, then Roger Moore with hisis going to stick out like a sore thumb with his Lotus when you look at the line up (guess Pierce is most closely associated with the beemers too, but at least he had one Aston). I know that’s a fanboy niggle though and that most wouldn’t care at all.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited October 2023 Posts: 2,610
    Venutius wrote: »
    Said it before but, as glorious as Paloma was, I'd prefer a whole film like Matera, rather than one like Cuba.

    I couldn't agree more. I never wanted to leave Matera. The Cuba sequence simply doesn't work for me, because NTTD is a dirge. The Cuba sequence fits Moore and Brosnan more. Matera is tailor-made for Bonds like Connery, Lazenby, Dalton & of course, Craig.

    Yep absolutely mate

    @Venutius I was the same mate, I didn't want to leave that ominous vibe. It felt very Bondian
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I really really hope that PWB won't co-write Bond 26. Don't get me wrong, I do like her, but if she is involved that would indicate that Nolan isn't.

    I'm more worried about Purvis and Wade coming back. Or artsy directors, or writers. PWB I can take or leave, she was an interesting choice. She might want to play a character if she writes again.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Said it before but, as glorious as Paloma was, I'd prefer a whole film like Matera, rather than one like Cuba.

    The Bahamas (Bond's house, meeting Felix) was what I liked most.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Yes to the Matera and Jamaica parts being the best. It would have taken some rewrites but had they gone the full route of Safin being a rebooted Dr. No, then his base could have been in that same vicinity.
  • edited October 2023 Posts: 127
    The Cuba sequence fits Moore and Brosnan more.

    That's probably why I liked this scene so much. 😉
    But in general I agree, the movie was entertaining in the first third, sadly it goes (in my opinion) downhill later, I think probably sometime around the scene with Blofeld.

    Currently I'm not really looking forward to the next movie, especially if the Nolan rumors are true. Sadly it doesn't look like they want to change the overall tone of the movies.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    edited October 2023 Posts: 257
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    The Cuba sequence fits Moore and Brosnan more.

    That's probably why I liked this scene so much. 😉
    But in general I agree, the movie was entertaining in the first third, sadly it goes downhill later, I think probably somewhere around the scene with Blofeld.

    Currently I'm not really looking forward to the next movie, especially if the Nolan rumors are true. Sadly it doesn't look like they want to change the overall tone of the movies.

    It's all rumors and we don't know which direction they will take the next adventure to. I think they tried to lighten the movies up a little bit after QoS but Daniel Craig wasn't the right guy to deliver this in my opinion. He was perfect in CR and QoS and I loved him as a tough, rugged and deadly serious Bond. But I missed the lighter touch too and and I think that was not what he was casted for.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2023 Posts: 8,236
    If Bond 25 showed us anything it's that over complicating things, while it may make you look "clever" on the surface, often doesn't work out in the long run.

    Can anyone with a straight face say that were satisfied by how blofeld and spectre met their ultimate demise? or that Bond having a family was mined for all its potential? or that the strange connection between Safin and Madeline truly pays off and justifies itself by the climax?

    They need to go for simple straightforward narratives that actually make sense and hold up to scrutiny - walk before you can run.
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    But in general I agree, the movie was entertaining in the first third, sadly it goes (in my opinion) downhill later, I think probably sometime around the scene with Blofeld.

    Same for me. I'm on board right 'till the Blofeld meeting, then the movie takes a nosedive.
    I've often watched it right to the point where Bond goes to Maddy's house. I never make the slinky, put it that way.
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