Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's funny, for me one of the reservations I have about ATJ is not that he looks too rough, or not gentlemanly enough, but the opposite: he looks a tad soft for Bond in what I've seen of him. Which isn't much and I understand he's an actor.

    He looks like a member of a boy band to me.
    I mean generationally the same could be said about all Bond actors tbh.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,368
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    George Lazenby - Vocals/Rhythm Guitar.
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    Timothy Dalton - Lead Guitar.
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  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's funny, for me one of the reservations I have about ATJ is not that he looks too rough, or not gentlemanly enough, but the opposite: he looks a tad soft for Bond in what I've seen of him. Which isn't much and I understand he's an actor.

    He looks like a member of a boy band to me.

    Are you sure you’re not BJMDDS?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited February 2023 Posts: 2,928
    I know we've talked about ATJ's chameleon qualities before, but I just saw that he was basically the main guy in Doug Liman's The Wall - and I hadn't realised, even though I've seen it twice! I don't know if that says more about ATJ's prowess as a character actor or my obviously declining faculties...

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2023 Posts: 5,869
    Venutius wrote: »
    I know we've talked about ATJ's chameleon qualities before, but I just saw that he was basically the main guy in Doug Liman's The Wall - and I hadn't realised, even though I've seen it twice! I don't know if that says more about ATJ's prowess as a character actor or my obviously declining faculties...
    Haha :D I always forget about that film...
    To be honest if ATJ doesn't get the gig, he'd be really good in a role akin to Alec Trevelyan.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I watched the clip above with an open mind, very much wanting to see something that would change my mind about ATJ, and then spoke.

    I might not feel as strongly s you do mate but I get what you mean.

    I'd be happy if ATJ was Bond #7 over many of the potential candidates, but every time I've watched him in something he hasn't caught my attention or been very memorable. Perhaps that is his voice and, or overall presence, it's just a bit passive
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    ATJ has no presence, and that kills it for me.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,430
    zebrafish wrote: »
    ATJ has no presence, and that kills it for me.

    Oh come on. Compared to some of these other guys? Regé-Jean Page and his dumb eyebrow raise would like to have a word. Dude is a plank of wood compared to ATJ.

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    And he's got muck in one brow.

    And outside of looking good with a cigarette in his mouth, Aiden Turner literally has no presence... in Hollywood anymore, it would seem. And never had it on screen.
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    RJP looks way better in this picture than he did in The Gray Man.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,318
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's funny, for me one of the reservations I have about ATJ is not that he looks too rough, or not gentlemanly enough, but the opposite: he looks a tad soft for Bond in what I've seen of him. Which isn't much and I understand he's an actor.

    He looks like a member of a boy band to me.

    Are you sure you’re not BJMDDS?
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's funny, for me one of the reservations I have about ATJ is not that he looks too rough, or not gentlemanly enough, but the opposite: he looks a tad soft for Bond in what I've seen of him. Which isn't much and I understand he's an actor.

    He looks like a member of a boy band to me.

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2023 Posts: 5,869
    While we're still on the subject, I'd like to also recommend once again if anyone hasn't seen it. Nowhere Boy (2009), a biopic about John Lennon prior to The Beatles and is actually directed by his now wife and where they met.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited February 2023 Posts: 565
    Denbigh wrote: »
    While we're still on the subject, I'd like to also recommend once again if anyone hasn't seen it. Nowhere Boy (2009), a biopic about John Lennon prior to The Beatles and is actually directed by his now wife and where they met.


    That's where I first saw him. I was going through a massive Beatles phase and I remember thinking how well he captured who the young Lennon was. That's why imagining him as Bond is still a bit strange for me because it's like John Lennon as Bond.
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    I think he's a little too old now.
  • Posts: 9,770
    Like I said I wouldn’t be shocked if by July Nolan was announced as director and by fall Aaron Taylor Johnson was announced as Bond number 7

    Now whether I would be happy about both or either is entirely different …

    Nolan I realize is just so steril in his film making I cared more about Reeves Batman then I did Nolan’s in 30 seconds….

    And Johnson I have yet for one of his fans to explain to me why they want him and who he would be like….

    When Craig was announced someone said to me if you like Dalton you will love Craig and the first two films that person was right… again I see ATJ and I am thinking maybe he will be like Brosnan maybe Lazenby but I am not seeing a real pull….

    So when I say I believe Nolan is directing Bond 26 and Johnson is the next bond this is from what my gut is saying not because I want it to happen…

    As for what I want Hardy is still young enough to do a back to back trilogy and I would take him over most of the younger actors mentioned…

    The guy who played Pennyworth (I keep forgetting his name) I also like and would love to see 6-8 films with him

    And Hoult could easily be my dark horse choice I like him but I understand he isn’t everyone cup of tea


    As for directors …. This is where my American popcorn nature shows because usually people here mention directors who did these great costume dramas and I don’t watch a lot of costume dramas… I do Like Matt Reeves currently Snyder could be more interesting then Nolan lol really I want a director to give us the following

    1. A bit of horror: the espionage world is a scary place and hell even the Moore films had Jump scares and a Proto Michael Myers with Jaws
    2. A lot of sex: it shouldn’t be a porno but hey if bond is going to have 6 pack abs and make the girls in the audience well aroused… I should get my hot blonde in a tight bikini fair is fair
    3. Exciting action: the films are action films first and foremost and I will never forgive Mendes for making a car chase through the streets of Rome seem boring
    4. Good character work: yeah I suppose this is important but let’s not get bogged down in this ok .. I reluctantly put it on here cause the days of bond being a good guy killing the obliviously evil guy isn’t going to make as much as character dissections about good and evil sadly but don’t ignore the first three


    I want a director who can give me those 4 things I don’t care if it’s Michael Bay or Jack Pretentious who directs 7 seasons of some drama about the French Revolution that no one saw but won a million awards.

    So yeah my thoughts where do I collect my penny
  • Posts: 338
    I like your thoughts, and your list. The only addition is that I would like Bond films to be thrillers more than action films. Actions films can get very boring very quickly, although real (not CGI) stunts are important.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Does anyone remember what other directors were considered after Danny Boyle's departure? I remember one of them saying he would be interested but was busy, and then Fukunaga got the job. Was that Villeneuve?
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited February 2023 Posts: 4,312
    Found it: Craig favoured David Mackenzie and Yann Demange was in talks as well? Villeneuve (Blade Runner 2049) turned it down, because he was committed to Dune. So what's the situation now, should we check whether any of these directors are uncommitted for 2024/25?
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Great post @Risico007
  • zebrafish wrote: »
    Found it: Craig favoured David Mackenzie and Yann Demange was in talks as well? Villeneuve (Blade Runner 2049) turned it down, because he was committed to Dune. So what's the situation now, should we check whether any of these directors are uncommitted for 2024/25?
    Yann Demange is normally going to direct Blade for Marvel Studios, that it set to be released in 2024. So, unless he steps back from this project, I doubt he will be available for Bond 26. David Mackenzie on the other hand doesn't seem for now to have any project for the future, so he could be a candidate to direct Bond 26.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    That would make David Mackenzie our best bet at the moment, because he was mentioned for NTTD and maybe does not have a project on the horizon, However, IMDB list a TV series, Gemstone, and a thriller, Relay, as in pre-production. So he IS busy after all. The question is if he still is a candidate and if he would pull out for Bond.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2023 Posts: 5,869
    I've explained quite a few times @Risico007 why I think ATJ would be good and I don't think he would be quite like any other Bond which is another reason why I think he'd be good for the part. The easiest way for me to explain why I think he'd be good without repeating myself too much is to refer you to some of his films, Nowhere Boy, Nocturnal Animals and Bullet Train in particular.

    EDIT: And just realised ATJ worked with Mackenzie on Outlaw King, another performance of his I should have mentioned.
  • Posts: 9,770
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I've explained quite a few times @Risico007 why I think ATJ would be good and I don't think he would be quite like any other Bond which is another reason why I think he'd be good for the part. The easiest way for me to explain why I think he'd be good without repeating myself too much is to refer you to some of his films, Nowhere Boy, Nocturnal Animals and Bullet Train in particular.

    EDIT: And just realised ATJ worked with Mackenzie on Outlaw King, another performance of his I should have mentioned.

    I did see one of his scenes in bullit train that has me understanding a bit of his bond and what I could expect of him (the blood scene)

    Again it’s hard to not judge him against actors that I would prefer (Hardy/Hoult)

    But this is hardly the first time that I had my own idea of what a popular franchise should do only to not get what I want but love what I got even more
  • Posts: 332
    zebrafish wrote: »
    That would make David Mackenzie our best bet at the moment, because he was mentioned for NTTD and maybe does not have a project on the horizon, However, IMDB list a TV series, Gemstone, and a thriller, Relay, as in pre-production. So he IS busy after all. The question is if he still is a candidate and if he would pull out for Bond.

    He doesn't have the action chops.
  • It's been a while since Leo Suter was mentioned in any depth. I'm familiar with him from a string of gentlemanly costume dramas on UK tv and would have dismissed him as too young and pretty for Bond. However, after binge watching Vikings: Valhalla I've changed my mind. Suter has certainly thrown himself with relish into the physicality and intensity required for the role and he looks like a good actor to me. Ok, he's probably a bit young at 29 and relatively inexperienced compared to what Eon are looking for, but imo definitely worth an audition.

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    Love this fight scene.


  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Yeah, he’s good in the show - he’s in great shape and has experience at the physical stuff. I do think he might need a more ‘acting-awards’ type of role in his cv, though, and maybe a lead role in a film if Eon are looking for someone to been seen as a ‘serious’ actor like Craig was. But they may not care about that at all, I guess.

    Anyway, imo not a bad candidate depending on what they’re looking for.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,318
    It's been a while since Leo Suter was mentioned in any depth. I'm familiar with him from a string of gentlemanly costume dramas on UK tv and would have dismissed him as too young and pretty for Bond. However, after binge watching Vikings: Valhalla I've changed my mind. Suter has certainly thrown himself with relish into the physicality and intensity required for the role and he looks like a good actor to me. Ok, he's probably a bit young at 29 and relatively inexperienced compared to what Eon are looking for, but imo definitely worth an audition.

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    Love this fight scene.


    Handsome face, the mysterious looking type, great physique, great voice, but does he have the acting chops? I could picture him as Bond, physically. The type a lot of men would want to be and women want to be with. Some guys have all the luck, eh?

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    It's been a while since Leo Suter was mentioned in any depth. I'm familiar with him from a string of gentlemanly costume dramas on UK tv and would have dismissed him as too young and pretty for Bond. However, after binge watching Vikings: Valhalla I've changed my mind. Suter has certainly thrown himself with relish into the physicality and intensity required for the role and he looks like a good actor to me. Ok, he's probably a bit young at 29 and relatively inexperienced compared to what Eon are looking for, but imo definitely worth an audition.

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    Love this fight scene.


    Another one that gives me Dorian Gray vibes, based on the picture.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited February 2023 Posts: 1,318
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's been a while since Leo Suter was mentioned in any depth. I'm familiar with him from a string of gentlemanly costume dramas on UK tv and would have dismissed him as too young and pretty for Bond. However, after binge watching Vikings: Valhalla I've changed my mind. Suter has certainly thrown himself with relish into the physicality and intensity required for the role and he looks like a good actor to me. Ok, he's probably a bit young at 29 and relatively inexperienced compared to what Eon are looking for, but imo definitely worth an audition.

    131965545_10160715743777782_9216847663913257074_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=xgdWImMlGo0AX_-EI9W&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=00_AfCjMQqIQE99zKcPzhphl8c-HumxL6OHsvgs6_mS2ho1pg&oe=6421AA26



    Love this fight scene.


    Another one that gives me Dorian Gray vibes, based on the picture.

    Strange, I don't think so at all. Meet Dorian Gray:

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  • It's been a while since Leo Suter was mentioned in any depth. I'm familiar with him from a string of gentlemanly costume dramas on UK tv and would have dismissed him as too young and pretty for Bond. However, after binge watching Vikings: Valhalla I've changed my mind. Suter has certainly thrown himself with relish into the physicality and intensity required for the role and he looks like a good actor to me. Ok, he's probably a bit young at 29 and relatively inexperienced compared to what Eon are looking for, but imo definitely worth an audition.

    131965545_10160715743777782_9216847663913257074_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=xgdWImMlGo0AX_-EI9W&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-2.xx&oh=00_AfCjMQqIQE99zKcPzhphl8c-HumxL6OHsvgs6_mS2ho1pg&oe=6421AA26



    Love this fight scene.


    Never heard of him, but he definitely seems to physically be a very strong contender. I wouldn't say he's too young either: with Bond 26 set to enter into production before 2024 at best, he will be 30/31, so one year younger than Connery in Dr. No. As you said, he's definitely worth an audition.
  • edited February 2023 Posts: 784
    I have to say, the fact that some of you prefer the most bland mediocre white actors over good POC actors, is quite telling.

    I’d rather have a decent portrayal than a puritan one (that isn’t even that pure to begin with).
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