No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited July 25 Posts: 2,067
    ertert wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Something the MI6HQ guys talked about on a number of podcasts is how ahead of the Nov to April delay there wasn't any ad spend kicking in, the only thing was the spot timed with Craig's Fallon appearance after the April ...and obviously there was nothing before April to October..now gears are clearly turning.


    I’ve been trying to look at the timing of when the delays were announced vs. the release dates. This week will put us at 2 months from release. The March-November delay was only 1 month before release but that was when everything shut down. The November-April delay was announced in early October, just under 2 months prior to release and they’d already spent money on a second trailer and we’re marketing it again. Then the delay to October 2021 came in January.

    Obviously each delay was different and it’s hard to establish a pattern gut tells me if no delay is announced by mid-august then they’re going full steam ahead unless there’s a last minute shutdown of cinemas in Europe.

    Of course, they could decide that just not enough people are going to the theaters and delay it again anyways but that seems less likely. Fast 9 and Black Widow showed that there is still a lot of demand for movie theaters although black widow seemed to have been hurt by the simultaneous streaming release.

    Or people are getting tired of the overexposed MCU, not too mention a boring character as the lead.
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    After SP, Daniel Kleinman might have outdone himself this time around. I can't wait to see the visuals.

    Could NTTD homage GF, OHMSS & SP with clips from previous movies? I think it’s possible.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 25 Posts: 8,413
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ertert wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Something the MI6HQ guys talked about on a number of podcasts is how ahead of the Nov to April delay there wasn't any ad spend kicking in, the only thing was the spot timed with Craig's Fallon appearance after the April ...and obviously there was nothing before April to October..now gears are clearly turning.


    I’ve been trying to look at the timing of when the delays were announced vs. the release dates. This week will put us at 2 months from release. The March-November delay was only 1 month before release but that was when everything shut down. The November-April delay was announced in early October, just under 2 months prior to release and they’d already spent money on a second trailer and we’re marketing it again. Then the delay to October 2021 came in January.

    Obviously each delay was different and it’s hard to establish a pattern gut tells me if no delay is announced by mid-august then they’re going full steam ahead unless there’s a last minute shutdown of cinemas in Europe.

    Of course, they could decide that just not enough people are going to the theaters and delay it again anyways but that seems less likely. Fast 9 and Black Widow showed that there is still a lot of demand for movie theaters although black widow seemed to have been hurt by the simultaneous streaming release.

    Or people are getting tired of the overexposed MCU, not too mention a boring character as the lead.

    Oh I would suspect people are bang up for a new Marvel movie: they love 'em. You may have a point about the character, but I think the streaming thing is most likely it. Seeing a new film for (less than in some cases) the price of two cinema tickets is pretty tempting, plus FF9 saw a similar drop-off in the second week so I think the ground is still a bit shaky for movies in cinemas.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Could NTTD homage GF, OHMSS & SP with clips from previous movies? I think it’s possible.

    Didn't Vesper pop up in one already? I know she's in the CR titles, but I feel like we see her drowning in the Spectre titles...?
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 3,845
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    After SP, Daniel Kleinman might have outdone himself this time around. I can't wait to see the visuals.

    Could NTTD homage GF, OHMSS & SP with clips from previous movies? I think it’s possible.

    Yeah, if done right, it could work. But I think because of how SP wasn't too original, everything is likely be fresh and original in NTTD, including the title sequence. There's even a possibility of another innovative Gunbarrel design, posturing, gait and motion style of the Gunbarrel this time. Well, not long anymore. We'll find out very soon.

  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Seeing that gunbarrel again in the TV spot has me thinking: Assuming we get an ambiguous ending regarding Bond’s fate, perhaps derived from YOLT novel where Bond is amnesic, disoriented, etc … could that actually be the final scene of the film? Does he save the day, rescue Madeline, defeat Safin, blow up the base, etc., but is so brutalized and mentally compromised that he doesn’t even know the battle is over? Is he just wandering the tunnels underneath Safin’s lair shooting at nothing (but still being a badass)?

    Sounds far fetched, but this gun barrel is clearly towards the end of the film… could imagine the Bond theme blaring right as the gunbarrel closes.
  • Posts: 329
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Maybe a track from Zimmer's score is next.

    Oh man, that's right. If the podcast starts up again and marketing intensifies, we'll get teasers of his score.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 25 Posts: 3,845
    BMB007 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Maybe a track from Zimmer's score is next.

    Oh man, that's right. If the podcast starts up again and marketing intensifies, we'll get teasers of his score.

    Yeah. Zimmer & Marr will BONDIFY our ears soon :)>-
  • edited July 25 Posts: 777
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Maybe a track from Zimmer's score is next.

    Oh man, that's right. If the podcast starts up again and marketing intensifies, we'll get teasers of his score.

    Yeah. Zimmer & Marr will BONDIFY our ears soon :)>-

    Cannot. Wait.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 3,845
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Maybe a track from Zimmer's score is next.

    Oh man, that's right. If the podcast starts up again and marketing intensifies, we'll get teasers of his score.

    Yeah. Zimmer & Marr will BONDIFY our ears soon :)>-

    Cannot. Wait.

    Absolutely :)
  • Posts: 3,133
    And that TV spot now officially in HD
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 3,506
    It’s on Instagram’s 007 profile as well!
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,261
    Let the mayhem begin...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
    Posts: 41,645
    Weird thing to do?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 26 Posts: 8,413
    Very curious. It might just be for the trailer as it's a TV spot (some obscure advertising rule), perhaps?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing South Florida
    Posts: 3,784
    Perhaps this is EON telling us, we are releasing this in October no matter what.
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    Perhaps this is EON telling us, we are releasing this in October no matter what.

    Agreed. It must have cost quite a lot to advertise during the olympics, even for a short spot. They would not have spent that money if they weren’t very confident. And now it’s on their Twitter and Instagram with the tag line that Bond is back in October. This is full steam ahead my friends.

  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    Posts: 469
    ertert wrote: »
    Perhaps this is EON telling us, we are releasing this in October no matter what.

    Agreed. It must have cost quite a lot to advertise during the olympics, even for a short spot. They would not have spent that money if they weren’t very confident. And now it’s on their Twitter and Instagram with the tag line that Bond is back in October. This is full steam ahead my friends.

    All aboard the hype train!!
  • Posts: 329
    ertert wrote: »
    Perhaps this is EON telling us, we are releasing this in October no matter what.

    Agreed. It must have cost quite a lot to advertise during the olympics, even for a short spot. They would not have spent that money if they weren’t very confident. And now it’s on their Twitter and Instagram with the tag line that Bond is back in October. This is full steam ahead my friends.

    I love that tag line so much — "Bond is back". Simple, effective. And deadly cool.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 4,639
    Also worth noting that films being delayed at the moment are more independent movies that are less likely to make their money back.
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    It evokes promotional campaigns past -- not that I am suggesting homage. Just that very few words go into these statements, and they're bound to recur. I recall, in particular:
    James Bond is Back in Action (GF)
    Look Up ! Look Down ! Look Out ! (TB) rather 60s
    FAR UP ! FAR OUT ! FAR MORE ! (OHMSS) VERY 60s !
    And a GREAT one for TSWLM, which was highly appropriate because the film itself truly marked a return after the tepid and comparatively lowly-funded LALD and TMWTGG, and the poster conveyed it well visually as well as with the tagline: It's the BIGGEST. It's the BEST. It's BOND. And B-E-Y-O-N-D

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 8,413
    BMB007 wrote: »
    ertert wrote: »
    Perhaps this is EON telling us, we are releasing this in October no matter what.

    Agreed. It must have cost quite a lot to advertise during the olympics, even for a short spot. They would not have spent that money if they weren’t very confident. And now it’s on their Twitter and Instagram with the tag line that Bond is back in October. This is full steam ahead my friends.

    I love that tag line so much — "Bond is back". Simple, effective. And deadly cool.

    Yes it's always nice: I think that's not new to this round of NTTD promo though- they used it on the previous ones.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Also worth noting that films being delayed at the moment are more independent movies that are less likely to make their money back.

    Good point.

  • MalloryMallory Are you ready to get back to work?
    Posts: 1,445
    mtm wrote: »
    Very curious. It might just be for the trailer as it's a TV spot (some obscure advertising rule), perhaps?

    Maybe Maserati dont want their car running over James Bond 😅
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 8,413
    Maybe! :D
  • Posts: 1,197
    NTTD heads to theaters as infection rates go up. Interesting times ahead. The Maserati logo removal may have a bit to do with promotional partners not wanting competition. I love the simplicity of "Bond Is Back" as well, nothing else needs to be said.
  • Posts: 777
    delfloria wrote: »
    NTTD heads to theaters as infection rates go up. Interesting times ahead. The Maserati logo removal may have a bit to do with promotional partners not wanting competition. I love the simplicity of "Bond Is Back" as well, nothing else needs to be said.

    I know this is much more practically difficult than I'm going to make it sound, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't try and bring the release forward by a 1-2 months.

    The current date is likely too tied to existing promotional deals/partnerships/ad bookings for that to be a straightforward or feasible option, I admit.

    But we've known for some time now (at least here in Canada) that the back half of this summer's going to be relatively "safe" and the end of September/early October will be precisely when the 4th "Delta wave" hits us hardest.

    One would would have to think that they've "gotten good enough at this" (delaying the film) that they wouldn't be repeating past mistakes. So if we're seeing new marketing, they must be 100% committed to pushing it out October 1 / October 8.

    I don't even want to think about what another delay would do to this fanbase.

    I just know I'm going to have anxiety about it right up until the minute I'm sitting there about to hear the gun barrel. Even if this isn't the best Bond film, it will almost certainly be the most cathartic.


  • Posts: 478
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    NTTD heads to theaters as infection rates go up. Interesting times ahead. The Maserati logo removal may have a bit to do with promotional partners not wanting competition. I love the simplicity of "Bond Is Back" as well, nothing else needs to be said.

    I know this is much more practically difficult than I'm going to make it sound, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't try and bring the release forward by a 1-2 months.

    The current date is likely too tied to existing promotional deals/partnerships/ad bookings for that to be a straightforward or feasible option, I admit.

    But we've known for some time now (at least here in Canada) that the back half of this summer's going to be relatively "safe" and the end of September/early October will be precisely when the 4th "Delta wave" hits us hardest.

    One would would have to think that they've "gotten good enough at this" (delaying the film) that they wouldn't be repeating past mistakes. So if we're seeing new marketing, they must be 100% committed to pushing it out October 1 / October 8.

    I don't even want to think about what another delay would do to this fanbase.

    I just know I'm going to have anxiety about it right up until the minute I'm sitting there about to hear the gun barrel. Even if this isn't the best Bond film, it will almost certainly be the most cathartic.


    Fully agreed. As for a delay, not just the effect on the fanbase but on the reputation of Eon and marketability of the film itself. They would look pretty bad delaying yet again after other major films released on time. Especially after this latest heavily promoted TV spot reaffirming the release date. They'd become a laughing stock.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 8,413
    ertert wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    NTTD heads to theaters as infection rates go up. Interesting times ahead. The Maserati logo removal may have a bit to do with promotional partners not wanting competition. I love the simplicity of "Bond Is Back" as well, nothing else needs to be said.

    I know this is much more practically difficult than I'm going to make it sound, but I'm somewhat surprised they didn't try and bring the release forward by a 1-2 months.

    The current date is likely too tied to existing promotional deals/partnerships/ad bookings for that to be a straightforward or feasible option, I admit.

    But we've known for some time now (at least here in Canada) that the back half of this summer's going to be relatively "safe" and the end of September/early October will be precisely when the 4th "Delta wave" hits us hardest.

    One would would have to think that they've "gotten good enough at this" (delaying the film) that they wouldn't be repeating past mistakes. So if we're seeing new marketing, they must be 100% committed to pushing it out October 1 / October 8.

    I don't even want to think about what another delay would do to this fanbase.

    I just know I'm going to have anxiety about it right up until the minute I'm sitting there about to hear the gun barrel. Even if this isn't the best Bond film, it will almost certainly be the most cathartic.


    Fully agreed. As for a delay, not just the effect on the fanbase but on the reputation of Eon and marketability of the film itself. They would look pretty bad delaying yet again after other major films released on time. Especially after this latest heavily promoted TV spot reaffirming the release date. They'd become a laughing stock.

    I don't think so, we all know these are tricky times.
    I'm sure the fanbase would be fine too- we've survived this far.
  • edited July 26 Posts: 777
    Just noticed: the official NTTD podcast seems to be missing on Spotify, possibly taken down in advance of a re-launch?

    I know I've had the first released episode bookmarked and revisited it a few times to listen to the Zimmer score snippets in the background. But it doesn't seem to be anywhere there today.

    EDIT: Indeed, Spotify links from Google no longer work. Still up on Apple podcasts, though.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1532875925?ct=podlink&mt=2&app=podcast&ls=1

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    The fan base will be fine if it gets pushed back again but at some point Eon will have to move onto the next installment of the franchise.
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