Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Can you get very experimental with Bond? Is there enough to it?
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    Almost everything EON do is conservative IMHO. The franchise has hardly changed since the first movie in terms of its "core product". Its interesting to discuss ideas on these forums but I'm 99.9% sure that EON will be looking to tick all of the usual boxes when casting the next Bond
    PS surely , those Hoult screenshots must reduce the odds (who is the other guy? struggling to hold his rifle correctly)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    patb wrote: »
    (who is the other guy? struggling to hold his rifle correctly)

    That's Aidan Gillen, and you're right about his handling. That sort of stuff annoys me, too. We don't see it too often these days though, thankfully.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    The other guy is Aiden Gillen.

    Looking at the movie poster on IMDb, Nicholas Hoult gets second billing in the list of names (though Jon Bernthal gets the important 'and' designation at the end of the list).
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    Second billing is exactly what EON need IMHO. The biggest threat to Hoult not getting the role is that he signs up for his first , leading role, Hollywood blockbuster.
    I know I'm biased but Hoult knows how to carry a firearm (unlike Gillen) another box ticked. 500-1? c'mon!
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    A bit of fan wisdom on here, for as long as I’ve been a member, has always been “the next Bond will have to be young enough to build a franchise around”. Makes sense obviously. But now I’m wondering if that really has to be the case?

    Joker came out as a stand alone film and did very well, and DC are apparently planning more one offs like that. There was Logan too, a few years ago, which despite having Hugh Jackman was pretty much its own one off thing, right? I don’t really keep up with those superhero franchises, but do we think this could be the start of a trend, with experimental one offs from the big brands becoming more common? I think the idea of there being a “casual viewer” who’d find it too confusing is holding less and less weight as time goes on. I think pop culture is so full of reboots and alternate takes now that most people are accustomed to it, and we’ve seen these stories so many times that they don’t need much in the way of backstory/set up. Could we see EON do something like Joker in the future? Some sort of experimental one off Bond, R rated or a period piece or something maybe, a whole seperate entity to the the main film series, with a big name who’d only commit to the one film? If they ever did do something like that then the actor’s age wouldn’t matter at all.

    My first choice would still be Jack O’Connell either way, although he seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth lately, haven’t seen him in anything for a while. Not sure if that’ll hurt or help his chances.

    I could see an occasional one off being the next phase of the Bond franchise. If 5-6 year gaps continue, which I sadly believe could be the case, the most I could see a new actor sticking around is 2-3 films regardless of his age.
    I have this hunch, moving forward, that Bond could become an occasional or even rare event in the future. Rare enough that there would be no point in planning anything long term for Craig's replacement. A one off in 2029, then another film in 2041, then 2062 for the 100th and so forth.

    I am more skeptical about how it would work for Bond. In itself, I'd love a Holmes type of Bond movie or a period piece, but I fear it would get in the way of the series as a whole. You have the luxury to create one/off movies in the superhero genre and in franchises that produce a dozen films a year, not to mention TV series and what have you. You'll have your main series regardless of that risky standalone project.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    patb wrote: »
    Second billing is exactly what EON need IMHO. The biggest threat to Hoult not getting the role is that he signs up for his first , leading role, Hollywood blockbuster.
    I know I'm biased but Hoult knows how to carry a firearm (unlike Gillen) another box ticked. 500-1? c'mon!

    Yeah, I think the only remaining question about Hoult for me is: can he be convincing as a tough guy? It's ironic that he looks so much like his friend Ed Skrein, who plays bad guys so often, but they have a very different presence on-screen.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I’m a big supporter of Hoult, but admittedly Ed Skrein does have a harder edge. They do look remarkably alike.
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    Comments re edge are fair but I also think that we will have a lighter, less edgy Bond in future.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    patb wrote: »
    Comments re edge are fair but I also think that we will have a lighter, less edgy Bond in future.

    I agree, and Hoult has a charm that would benefit that.

  • MaxOliverMaxOliver US/New York
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    Hugh Jackman could have shown us a good bond, but I don't think that's possible anymore...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    MaxOliver wrote: »
    Hugh Jackman could have shown us a good bond, but I don't think that's possible anymore...
    Absolutely, he has the charm of Moore and the intensity of Craig. He could have been a great Bond.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Hoult is a great shout and definitely worth a screentest, but is it just me or does he look too friendly without facial hair?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    Good point.

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    I've changed my mind about Hoult after them stills. A good versatile actor but he's just a young lad with freaky brows, doesn't scream Bond to me anymore. Need someone superb, someone who shines.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    That's a fair point mate. Maybe if they went with Hoult or someone similar (perhaps softer in a sense) do you think that would mean a change in direction? Maybe make Bond more of a spy and less of an assassin?

    I'd honestly be happier with Hoult, than I would Cavill, Hardy or Page
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I've changed my mind about Hoult after them stills. A good versatile actor but he's just a young lad with freaky brows, doesn't scream Bond to me anymore. Need someone superb, someone who shines.

    Freaky eyebrows ? Check pre- Bond Connery!

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    There has to be link between opinions on the next Bond and opinions on where they will take the character. It makes sense to me that they will go for more intrigue, plot, charm etc and less of the muscle, darkness and navel gazing
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I've changed my mind about Hoult after them stills. A good versatile actor but he's just a young lad with freaky brows, doesn't scream Bond to me anymore. Need someone superb, someone who shines.

    Freaky eyebrows ? Check pre- Bond Connery!

    Crikey! I can't unsee that now haha, really bushy eyebrows. I think his brow and eyes in general look kinda scary. I don't know, looks too "nice" in appearence as well. Dammit. Has a fit bird tho
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    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does. I'm not against him mind you, and I think 500 to 1 is ridiculous, but I'm not convinced yet. That said, if he was to get the role, I wouldn't be surprised.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does.

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
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    "I think I'm too young to be honest" Five years ago. Neither he or us could have predicted the delays.

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    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does.

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

    I think he looks soft. Something about his eyes and the shape of his face. I am not convinced so far, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. And I might be proven wrong because in spite of my reservations I think he's got a fair chance to get it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Digitalia
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does.

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

    I think he looks soft. Something about his eyes and the shape of his face. I am not convinced so far, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. And I might be proven wrong because in spite of my reservations I think he's got a fair chance to get it.

    Craig struggled to quit smoking when he was cast. Hoult would probably struggle to give up his pacifier.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I wonder if between now and when the next film is released, if there will be a contender we aren't even speculating about gets it. We'll probably need divine intervention, but let's say the next film is out in 2024.
    That's what happened with Daniel I believe, he wasn't really getting spoken about until 6 months before he was cast
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does.

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

    I think he looks soft. Something about his eyes and the shape of his face. I am not convinced so far, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. And I might be proven wrong because in spite of my reservations I think he's got a fair chance to get it.

    100% this. Hoult looks like a softie. Sorry gents.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Wattenscheid
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    My main problem with him is that I always think "That's the kid from About a Boy!" but given that there is a good chance that the next Bond actor will be the first to be younger than me, I will have to get used to that, I guess.
    There is something slight about him, but I have a sneaking suspicion that could be a good thing for a Bond for the near future, with many other action stars going a bit heavy on the HGH in the last few years.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I disagree, and think he is steadily growing into his looks. Another 3 to 5 years and he’s ready.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Roger and Pierce both looked pretty friendly, I'd say.

    True but neither looked soft like Hoult does.

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

    I think he looks soft. Something about his eyes and the shape of his face. I am not convinced so far, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. And I might be proven wrong because in spite of my reservations I think he's got a fair chance to get it.

    100% this. Hoult looks like a softie. Sorry gents.

    He's still very young, but even Moore and Brosnan looked tougher at his age. It is true that if cast as Bomd it won't be until 4-5 years at the earliest. He might mature.
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