Dynamite's Bond comics and graphic novels

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 2,062
    00Agent wrote: »
    Here is a direct link to the James Bond dedicated Dynamite panel at ComicCon on Thursday, 11:00 PTD, which is exactly 48 hours from now:

    https://www.comic-con.org/cciathome/2020/video/qrpwoutky3g

    I'll be there for sure. This will be the biggest comic related news we had in quite a while. Glad to see some life back in this series.

    The link to the page says it’s been cancelled.
  • Posts: 1,114
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Here is a direct link to the James Bond dedicated Dynamite panel at ComicCon on Thursday, 11:00 PTD, which is exactly 48 hours from now:

    https://www.comic-con.org/cciathome/2020/video/qrpwoutky3g

    I'll be there for sure. This will be the biggest comic related news we had in quite a while. Glad to see some life back in this series.

    The link to the page says it’s been cancelled.
    Haha, typical Dynamite.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,172
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Here is a direct link to the James Bond dedicated Dynamite panel at ComicCon on Thursday, 11:00 PTD, which is exactly 48 hours from now:

    https://www.comic-con.org/cciathome/2020/video/qrpwoutky3g

    I'll be there for sure. This will be the biggest comic related news we had in quite a while. Glad to see some life back in this series.

    The link to the page says it’s been cancelled.

    Just woke up to the news
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    Why do i even bother with them srsly.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,172
    In case anyone was wondering what the hell is happening with the rumored Origins Vol. 3,
    You are not alone. So is the writer/artist behind it.

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 2,062
    Waiting for Dynamite to make up their minds on where to take James Bond is as depressing as waiting for NTTD.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,172
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
  • Posts: 36
    I think calling the entire comics gate movement a hate group is pure exaggeration. Since when does MI6 start reporting so one sidedly. Does it work for the Carver media network now?

    I think the comic industry is dying and one side thinks pushing diversity is going to save it but that isn't the target demographic. (Again I'm not saying that comics shouldn't have diversity but maybe it is being done in a disingenuous way). Not sure the other side has a good plan either as comicbooks were already suffering with the rise of Marvel/DC films and video games so who knows what will happen next. Just my thoughts. I actually introduce my students to comics all the time and I think the industry just needs to find a better balance. Happy for others to disagree.
  • Posts: 1,114
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
    Pardon my nativity but what is CG?
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,172
    TR007 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
    Pardon my nativity but what is CG?

    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/comics-dynamite-revealed-to-support-comicsgate-hate-group?id=04728

    Honestly, i don't know anything about GC, and i'm not sure i care enough to do research on them (but i'm not gonna believe a word from MI6, that's for sure).
    I only read Bond comics and couldn't care less about this BS.

    Sounds like the usual 'guilty by association' crap. Dynamite has been pushing diversity into their Bond comics for a while now, so it amazes me how quickly they get branded as the bad guys by the cancel-gestapo.

    Just give me my final issue of the latest miniseries next wednesday, and after that they can burn the whole house down. Not like i give a damn. They had nothing worthwhile in their Pipeline anyway... And i'm starting to understand why.
  • TR007 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
    Pardon my nativity but what is CG?

    Your nativity is pardoned, but let's keep religion out of this, shall we?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 2,062
    Could Dynamite pull a Goldeneye comic and stop publishing them altogether before the contact with IFP is up? I would hate that as Dynamite has a lot of potential with James Bond.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,282
    00Agent wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
    Pardon my nativity but what is CG?

    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/comics-dynamite-revealed-to-support-comicsgate-hate-group?id=04728

    Honestly, i don't know anything about GC, and i'm not sure i care enough to do research on them (but i'm not gonna believe a word from MI6, that's for sure).
    I only read Bond comics and couldn't care less about this BS.

    Sounds like the usual 'guilty by association' crap. Dynamite has been pushing diversity into their Bond comics for a while now, so it amazes me how quickly they get branded as the bad guys by the cancel-gestapo.

    Just give me my final issue of the latest miniseries next wednesday, and after that they can burn the whole house down. Not like i give a damn. They had nothing worthwhile in their Pipeline anyway... And i'm starting to understand why.

    Indeed. I had sent a proposal to present at a side conference during Comic-Con, and this was the general topic that I and some colleagues were going for. Sadly, it was rejected. Maybe this was why.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 775
    I'm not sure to understand: in one hand Dynamite facing accusation of "hate" anti- progressivism, but in the other hand isn't the writter of the current Dynamite Bond comics serie include Vita Ayala who is a woman, black, who define herself like "no binary" and have LGBT flags on her Twitter ? (How you can be more progressive than that?!). The first and the second hand are contradictory!

    Beside I think the Rahsan Ekedal comics was to be called "James Bond: 1942" :

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    Anyway don't F-dare cancel/report Big Things #6 again...
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,172
    I'm not sure to understand: in one hand Dynamite facing accusation of "hate" anti- progressivism, but in the other hand isn't the writter of the current Dynamite Bond comics serie include Vita Ayala who is a woman, black, who define herself like "no binary" and have LGBT flags on her Twitter ? (How you can be more progressive than that?!). The first and the second hand are contradictory!

    Beside I think the Rahsan Ekedal comics was to be called "James Bond: 1942" :

    oBvhmLN.png

    Nice find! Could this be Origins Vol. 3?
    One before Ibrahim Moustafa does his 1945? Maybe the name means something else entirely.
    I wonder which minority group Bond would have gotten in this story as his ally/sidekick.
    Anyway don't F-dare cancel/report Big Things #6 again...
    Today i should get a payment notification from Comixology that issue 6 is releasing next week if nothing goes wrong. I hope they don't cock this up because next wednesday i will be at ICE-Q (Hoffler Clinic from SP) and I want to read it there.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Could Dynamite pull a Goldeneye comic and stop publishing them altogether before the contact with IFP is up? I would hate that as Dynamite has a lot of potential with James Bond.

    I don't think it will be that bad, Dynamite will have to make a decision regarding GC though, before all their talent runs away in a virtue signal frenzy trying to prove that their idealogy is purer than the next guys.
  • Posts: 1,114
    TR007 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.

    Here is an article, if you wanna know more you can check the backlinks as well:
    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dynamite-pulls-panels-from-san-diego-comic-conhome/

    Writer/artist Rahsan Ekedal tweeted;
    "So I reached out to my editor at Dynamite about this CG situation and said that I can't be associated with a company that allies itself with a hate group. I just want my followers and other creators to understand that i condemn CG and am furious with the company. I was two issues in on a James Bond miniseries with them but it has been on indefinite hold since March and I haven't done any further work on it since I finished colors during the lockdown."
    Pardon my nativity but what is CG?

    Your nativity is pardoned, but let's keep religion out of this, shall we?
    D’oh! Bloody spellcheck.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 3,270
    00Agent wrote: »
    Lolol, apparenty Dynamite is the latest target of cancel culture (ffs)
    Another case of (far left) liberals eating their own, not that surprising really.
    [/i]

    I can't understand why you'd say that. I hadn't heard of CG before but it was easy enough to research them. Here's a link to the Wikipedia article on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comicsgate. Or, for those who don't like clicking on links, here's less than twenty words from the first line of that article: "Comicsgate is a campaign in opposition to perceived 'forced diversity' and progressivism in North American superhero comic books..." It is accused of conducting a campaign of harassment and violence against women, people of color, and members of the LGBTQ community working in the comics industry. Far from being a case of "the left eating their own" it is most certainly a right vs. left issue. While I don't think this is the place to get into a political screaming match, I do sympathize with creators who don't want to be aligned with a movement accused of violence against their own co-workers. Not exactly a "virtue signalling frenzy" in taking a stand opposing violence against one's own co-workers, is it?

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Does this mean no MR, DAF, ... adaptation?
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,172
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Does this mean no MR, DAF, ... adaptation?

    It doesn't mean anything.
    Nick Barrucci, Dynamite's CEO had an association and friendship with a top guy at GC, and was giving some of their artists some jobs and opportunities (from what i understand, small stuff like covers etc, nothing major)

    He never aligned with their cause though (whatever that may be) and was steering Dynamite in the totally opposite direction anyway.

    I expect him to resign in a couple days and then it's back to normal.
  • My understanding is that all the Comicsgate (CG, not GC) guys were doing for Dynamite were some alternative covers. Personally, I'm not a big fan of alternative covers, so anything that causes there to be fewer of those in existence is okay by me. Nick Barucci is kind of a big deal at Dynamite -- company founder as well as CEO -- so for him to resign from his position there would mean that NOTHING is "back to normal" at Dynamite. I'd be surprised to see him resigning over this contretemps -- but hey, we live in surprising times!
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,172
    My understanding is that all the Comicsgate (CG, not GC) guys were doing for Dynamite were some alternative covers. Personally, I'm not a big fan of alternative covers, so anything that causes there to be fewer of those in existence is okay by me. Nick Barucci is kind of a big deal at Dynamite -- company founder as well as CEO -- so for him to resign from his position there would mean that NOTHING is "back to normal" at Dynamite. I'd be surprised to see him resigning over this contretemps -- but hey, we live in surprising times!

    Well that does make things slightly more complicated.
    Personally i would think he just needs to distance himself from CG publicly, as his CG buddy doesn't want much to do with him anymore either, and that should be the end of it, but hey, we live in surprising times.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 3,270
    Oh, and BTW: if you want to see continued Dynamite adaptations of the Fleming novels, here's something you can do to help it happen: assuming you already own copies of CR and LALD, urge your local comics store to keep them in stock! Most comics stores keep "evergreen" graphic novels in stock, but they have limited room for display and limited funds to invest in this type of product. Make sure your LCS has reason to think that they could sell these titles on a consistent basis long after the initial sale date has passed...and you've taken an important step towards ensuring the continuation of the entire Bond series in the GN format!
  • Posts: 8,695
    so does anyone know when the bond comic books take place I am reading one story where Bond never fought goldfinger or oddjob
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 3,270
    Risico007 wrote: »
    so does anyone know when the bond comic books take place I am reading one story where Bond never fought goldfinger or oddjob

    I'd say the one you're reading takes place in an alternate continuity. Many Bond stories take place totally displaced from any continuity, where it doesn't really matter what happened "before" or "after" the story in question. This one just takes that concept one step further. Fans are more inclined to care about continuity; general readers, less so. What Dynamite perhaps doesn't realize is that a significant slice of the market for their Bond books are both "general readers" (i.e., not devoted comics fans) but they ARE strongly dedicated fans to Bond material. These are not Lone Ranger/Green Hornet-type readers who might pick up a Ranger story & not care if it's presenting the story of LR's "first" encounter with Butch Cavendish in a fashion that is out of sync with earlier presentations of that same concept. The audience for their Bond books remembers 007's first encounter with Goldfinger (or Dr. No, or Mr. Big) quite well. They're trying a tack here that I don't think will really work, putting GF etc. into new material without acknowledging that Goldy, Oddjob, and the like have a prior history in the Bond universe. Still, from Dynamite's perspective -- if Blofeld can be rebooted for a new movie or two, then why not Goldfinger, Oddjob, or Mr. Big for some new comics stories?
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    Well, if James Bond Jr. met the villains his uncle had already killed (and one he hadn't, not for the lack of trying), why shouldn't Bond revisit some of his old acquaintances ?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Oh, and BTW: if you want to see continued Dynamite adaptations of the Fleming novels, here's something you can do to help it happen: assuming you already own copies of CR and LALD, urge your local comics store to keep them in stock! Most comics stores keep "evergreen" graphic novels in stock, but they have limited room for display and limited funds to invest in this type of product. Make sure your LCS has reason to think that they could sell these titles on a consistent basis long after the initial sale date has passed...and you've taken an important step towards ensuring the continuation of the entire Bond series in the GN format!

    My local bookstore has carried every one of them. It was refreshing to see. I thought the work on these, the new stories and the adaptations, was first-rate. I am not a big follower of the comics/graphic novels genre, but I know when I see good work.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited July 2020 Posts: 2,062
    TripAces wrote: »
    Oh, and BTW: if you want to see continued Dynamite adaptations of the Fleming novels, here's something you can do to help it happen: assuming you already own copies of CR and LALD, urge your local comics store to keep them in stock! Most comics stores keep "evergreen" graphic novels in stock, but they have limited room for display and limited funds to invest in this type of product. Make sure your LCS has reason to think that they could sell these titles on a consistent basis long after the initial sale date has passed...and you've taken an important step towards ensuring the continuation of the entire Bond series in the GN format!

    My local bookstore has carried every one of them. It was refreshing to see. I thought the work on these, the new stories and the adaptations, was first-rate. I am not a big follower of the comics/graphic novels genre, but I know when I see good work.

    That’s what saddens me, the average writer and illustrator of Dynamite’s was better than EON’s lately.
  • TripAces wrote: »
    Oh, and BTW: if you want to see continued Dynamite adaptations of the Fleming novels, here's something you can do to help it happen: assuming you already own copies of CR and LALD, urge your local comics store to keep them in stock! Most comics stores keep "evergreen" graphic novels in stock, but they have limited room for display and limited funds to invest in this type of product. Make sure your LCS has reason to think that they could sell these titles on a consistent basis long after the initial sale date has passed...and you've taken an important step towards ensuring the continuation of the entire Bond series in the GN format!

    My local bookstore has carried every one of them. It was refreshing to see. I thought the work on these, the new stories and the adaptations, was first-rate. I am not a big follower of the comics/graphic novels genre, but I know when I see good work.

    There's a difference between "my local bookstore has carried" them and "my dealer has them on the shelves and available right now." That's the gist of my pitch. The initial sales on the GNs were (to my understanding) somewhat disappointing. Perhaps the average LCS sold 5 copies on initial release ... but could sell an extra 1 per month to casual browsers if all the stores currently open just had them in stock. That extra dozen copies per year multiplied by the number of stores carrying them could make a substantial difference in the profitability of these titles -- and thus, the likelihood that Diamond will continue producing adaptations of the original Fleming novels. They might even move into producing and releasing them more often!
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited July 2020 Posts: 4,282
    TripAces wrote: »
    Oh, and BTW: if you want to see continued Dynamite adaptations of the Fleming novels, here's something you can do to help it happen: assuming you already own copies of CR and LALD, urge your local comics store to keep them in stock! Most comics stores keep "evergreen" graphic novels in stock, but they have limited room for display and limited funds to invest in this type of product. Make sure your LCS has reason to think that they could sell these titles on a consistent basis long after the initial sale date has passed...and you've taken an important step towards ensuring the continuation of the entire Bond series in the GN format!

    My local bookstore has carried every one of them. It was refreshing to see. I thought the work on these, the new stories and the adaptations, was first-rate. I am not a big follower of the comics/graphic novels genre, but I know when I see good work.

    There's a difference between "my local bookstore has carried" them and "my dealer has them on the shelves and available right now." That's the gist of my pitch. The initial sales on the GNs were (to my understanding) somewhat disappointing. Perhaps the average LCS sold 5 copies on initial release ... but could sell an extra 1 per month to casual browsers if all the stores currently open just had them in stock. That extra dozen copies per year multiplied by the number of stores carrying them could make a substantial difference in the profitability of these titles -- and thus, the likelihood that Diamond will continue producing adaptations of the original Fleming novels. They might even move into producing and releasing them more often!

    My store has had almost every copy on the shelves. When I see that one has been released, I can go over there and buy a copy. The only ones they did not have were Felix Leiter and M: One Shot. But you're right: once their initial stock sells out, I dont know if they have more or order more. I have never bothered to look. I think my point was, it was surprising (and pleasantly surprising) to see an independent, high-end bookstore, carrying these books--I didn't emphasize that part.

    The whole Comic-Con saga is a huge setback, for a number of reasons. The fact that they had a panel ready to go (even virtually) was huge and could have allowed them to broaden their base. I could be wrong, but I think this was their first big panel at the San Diego convention, right? I knew they had done some at local, smaller conventions.

  • Gerard wrote: »
    Well, if James Bond Jr. met the villains his uncle had already killed (and one he hadn't, not for the lack of trying), why shouldn't Bond revisit some of his old acquaintances ?

    It's a question of continuity. James Bond Jr. by definition exists in an alternate continuity -- one in which there IS a JB Jr. Frankly, I've never paid any attention to the JB Jr. series and don't intend to start now. "Our" Bond had only two continuities until relatively recently -- that of the Fleming novels, and that of the movies. Now, the Craig films have to be regarded as existing in a third continuity -- one in which Blofeld is his step-brother and "the author of all his pain." Do you really want to see a fourth continuity, one in which all the villains he had previously killed are magically revived, and utilized only in the Dynamite Comics line? I would suggest that DC's (the Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman comics company, not Dynamite Comics or Daniel Craig) constantly rebooted storylines have served to weaken that company's history, not strengthen it. I don't think Bond can withstand the suspension of disbelief that is required by having too many alternative continuities in the public consciousness simultaneously, and would rather Dynamite didn't play with someone else's "toys" in such a cavalier fashion.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    "Our" Bond had only two continuities until relatively recently -- that of the Fleming novels, and that of the movies. Now, the Craig films have to be regarded as existing in a third continuity -- one in which Blofeld is his step-brother and "the author of all his pain." Do you really want to see a fourth continuity, one in which all the villains he had previously killed are magically revived, and utilized only in the Dynamite Comics line? I would suggest that DC's (the Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman comics company, not Dynamite Comics or Daniel Craig) constantly rebooted storylines have served to weaken that company's history, not strengthen it. I don't think Bond can withstand the suspension of disbelief that is required by having too many alternative continuities in the public consciousness simultaneously, and would rather Dynamite didn't play with someone else's "toys" in such a cavalier fashion.

    I understand where you're coming from, but I have to say I disagree. I don't mind varying continuities at all. I don't want to open up the entire "Bond movie timelines"-thing to much, but for me the different actors have pretty much all been in different "realities".

    Furthermore, I prefer the comics being seperate. Compared to the novels, I like that the main line is updated to our current time (or rather a slightly futuristic time) - and even here we have the adaptions and Origins which are in fully seperate continuities.
    And compared to the films I would hate it if they were fully tied in. I guess it's because of licensing issues, but I am quite happy that the comic Bond isn't Craig (in likeness or character or storyline).
    I seem to be in the minority on this, but the trend of the recent years of tying everything into everything and having a huge interconnected universe à la MCU were you have to watch a dozen movies plus comics plus a live-action TV series plus animated series to understand what the hell is going on (see Star Wars as an example) is hugely annoying to me. And I think the disaster that is SPECTRE's attempt at "cinematic universifying" the Craig movies (see "author of all your pain") shows how wrong that can go.

    And it's not like the Dynamite Comics have - as far as I can tell - "constantly rebooted" as other longer running series (you mentioned DC) have. There comes a point when it is annoying and downright silly, that Bond is going up against the same villain and comics can certainly feel like they lack high stakes, because every villain reappears and every side-kick can get resurrected. But to me, the Dynamite comics are far from that and still feel fresh (mostly).
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