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Since you cannot predict the future, I'd say you're not exactly right. And yes, I'm aware of Barbara's comments.
Would they? You're certain of it?
Oh, yes, we're quite in agreement on that.
You don't think he'll ever be replaced and this thread isn't about who should be a new Bond actor? Despite being called 'Who should/could be a new Bond actor'? You say a lot of confusing things.
Well it's for another thread, but generally the filmmakers improved things where they could. They made Goldfinger's plot better, they streamlined the FRWL plot, improved OHMSS... and that's before you get to having a version of Goldfinger that doesn't have Sean Connery, John Barry, Ken Adam etc. Plus they have to be in period, which given what they have to show in the novels would be compromised by what's available, what can be made in CG etc. and how big the budget is.
Even the Toby Stephens radio versions had to add things and change things for the new medium despite being closer adaptations of the books, and usually they're not all that great. They're fine, a curiosity piece, but yeah, I think you'd very much be getting a lot of people saying they aren't as good as the films. Millions of people love the films.
This is the best post so far on this subject, by the way.
I meant that you can't be sure the Bond franchise will always be confined to the big screen, so we could be talking about replacements for the films, or for a tv series, or whatever. The way things are, it's getting pretty hard to predict the future for the seventh art.
I love the films, I love the books. I'd even love a properly directed and produced show. They'd just have to have the right people involved, and a helluva lot of money to spend.
And cmon, I say a lot of confusing things? Really?
Most interactions we've had have been riddled with animosity, mainly because I disagreed with your response technic, which I can only describe as compulsory machine gun fire. But then I tried to make emends by complimenting your fabulous art work, and even went on to write some fair play comments on our posts when they got fired up. Then, I even tried answering you with your own method, even though I find it tiresome as hell. And in the end, trying to be respectful of the conversation, I put a lovely bow on top saying this is all just fun and games.
The thing is, dear @mtm, we agree on a lot of things. Maybe not one or two, but mostly I find myself agreeing with you. I have put my hand out there for a hand shake, several times, even if you're generally blind to my efforts, it's your choice to do the same or not.
We fence, then we shake hands. Time to do so, I reckon. If you feel that to be confusing, then bugger off :)
And again, for clarity purposes:
1) Butchering literary source material is wrong
2) Changing too much of Ian Fleming's James Bond makes it NOT Ian Fleming's James Bond
3) I believe changing the race of a literary fictional character is too much. I'd say the same about changing: its nationality, its gender, its origin story/background, and many other things.
All, of course, IMO.
I also agree about the uncertainty of the future of Bond media; wouldn't be surprised to see a TV series given the unbelievable quality of TV these days. Bond on The AMC would be fine with me, or HBO of course. Streaming services as well.
Like you I also love the books and would love to see some straight adaptions. I have no idea why, honestly, but I crave a straight adaption of Octopussy, and I think about it all the time. Barely anything happens in it, lol, but I just want it.
+1 Thank you for you kind and lucid response, @NickTwentyTwo. And yes, absolutely, we agree on most things on most threads, all three of us.
However, a Bond of a different race could certainly be interesting too, and you could analyse him as a contradiction to the people he works for if it ever came to be. However, I don't think it's a simple straight swap; the character would be fundamentally changed because seeing a black Briton with modern sensibilities serving the crown against their enemies is a lot different to an old-fashioned white male of privilege doing it. It's neither good nor bad, but it certainly is a fundamental change. Things like scars, eye colour, hair colour etc. are absolutely superficial in comparison with his race.
That being said, it's not a conversation that's going to go away and I think it's an inevitability that we'll get a black James Bond at some point in our lifetime, and I'd judge the actor playing him on their own merits and what they bring to the part.
Completely agree.
Idris Elba billion dollar Bond what utter nonsense.
What is this hard on with Elba, he rarely has been on a par with his turn in The Wire as Stringer Bell.
Certainly not moping about in a grubby overcoat solving ludicrous crimes (with a granted great theme tune from Massive Attack) certainly isn't that.
Elba isn't really going anywhere fast.
The next Bond will be a relative nobody and certainly not some actor approaching 50 who has a a name mostly for the fact certain people think he should the first black Bond.
It certainly does keep me amused though hearing such nonsense from someone who thinks MI6 is his own entertainment blog.
As I said he’s a TikTok rapper now lol, so I’d agree with you. I think people just put him forward because he’s a classy British man like all of the other suggestions for Bond, and he’s a hit with the ladies, and people liked to be controversial by putting up a black actor for the role.
I prefer a younger unknown of lesser known, it would not even surprise me if they got Robert Pattison as he would come with a shedload of fans.
That said there is no clear favorite for me, I will see what Barbara will surprise us with. I am quite sure they are already eyeballing the new 007 as we speak.
Please no...
Summed up perfectly. 👍
Like Stuart Martin or Aidan Turner ;)
Aidan Turner....yes.
I don’t know who Stuart Martin is! 🤣😂
He's Scottish, btw. Mind you, I'd rather have Aidan Turner in the role :)