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  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    From the looks of it this one will be a bit stripped down similar to CR.

    It’s not going to be like Spectre which consisted of insert car chase here insert fight scene there.

    I think bond does get captured for a portion of the film though. Possibly the porton down sequence.
    Considering it’s the most expensive Bond film ever made, I would love to hear your reasoning here.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    The editing is some of the worst I've ever seen, the villain is mediocre and Mathis should've not been killed like that.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    The editing is some of the worst I've ever seen, the villain is mediocre and Mathis should've not been killed like that.

    Yeah, he should have been recycled.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,000
    Minion wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    From the looks of it this one will be a bit stripped down similar to CR.

    It’s not going to be like Spectre which consisted of insert car chase here insert fight scene there.

    I think bond does get captured for a portion of the film though. Possibly the porton down sequence.
    Considering it’s the most expensive Bond film ever made, I would love to hear your reasoning here.

    SPECTRE cost $50 million more than NTTD.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited November 2019 Posts: 1,165
    Minion wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    From the looks of it this one will be a bit stripped down similar to CR.

    It’s not going to be like Spectre which consisted of insert car chase here insert fight scene there.

    I think bond does get captured for a portion of the film though. Possibly the porton down sequence.
    Considering it’s the most expensive Bond film ever made, I would love to hear your reasoning here.

    SPECTRE cost $50 million more than NTTD.

    I’ve heard the opposite, but I’ll rephrase my post: one of the most expensive Bond films ever made.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    The editing is some of the worst I've ever seen, the villain is mediocre and Mathis should've not been killed like that.

    Yeah, he should have been recycled.

    Haha maybe that's what will happen with Safin. Environmental stuff always scores these days. :)) =))
  • RC7RC7
    edited November 2019 Posts: 10,512
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Budget for Bond 25 is possibly 250 million, it'll be probably longer than SP, so theres plenty of time for action and slower sections. Movie won't be under 2hrs 25 minutes, the Craigs are longer than average.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited November 2019 Posts: 4,247
    I need the charade between Bond & the villian back in NTTD. And their witty conversations. The dinner conversation between Bond & Doctor No, flows so well and it's engaging.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    The editing is some of the worst I've ever seen, the villain is mediocre and Mathis should've not been killed like that.

    Yeah, he should have been recycled.

    Haha maybe that's what will happen with Safin. Environmental stuff always scores these days. :)) =))

    :))
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    RC7 wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.

    People always point the similarities with Bourne, but for me it comes off like a generic Gerard Butler euro actioner. It lacks the more classy feel of the other Craig films. Maybe that uniqueness appeals to some, more power to them.
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    I am so looking forward to Wednesday! Bring it on!!! <:-P
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited November 2019 Posts: 4,247
    If NTTD crosses the 1billion mark, Do we think the Next Bond actor will be announced sooner?
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Trailer countdown, sort of... Spectre explosion


  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited November 2019 Posts: 5,834
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    If NTTD crosses the 1billion mark, Do we think the Next Bond will be casted sooner?
    No, I think they'll take as long as they need to cast James Bond. Characteristically they tend not to rush things and will take as long as they need, and when they have tried to get the films out quicker, it hasn't always worked out (Quantum of Solace, Spectre), concretely in my opinion proving that taking their time can heavily benefit the films (Casino Royale, Skyfall).

    It's interesting, and probably unsurprising, to note that the two most unsuccessful films of the Craig-era are the ones that were churned out quicker, so could we possibly see the "delay" of No Time to Die as a blessing in disguise?
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    If NTTD crosses the 1billion mark, Do we think the Next Bond will be casted sooner?
    No, I think they'll take as long as they need to cast James Bond. Characteristically they tend not to rush things and will take as long as they need, and when they have tried to get the films out quicker, it hasn't always worked out (Quantum of Solace, Spectre), concretely in my opinion proving that taking their time can heavily benefit the films (Casino Royale, Skyfall).

    It's interesting, and probably unsurprising, to note that the two most unsuccessful films of the Craig-era are the ones that were churned out quicker, so could we possibly see the "delay" of No Time to Die as a blessing in disguise?

    Yeah, all true
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    FYI theres gonna be no movie in America released on April 8 that weekend
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 1,314
    RC7 wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.

    I agree QOS is poor - largely incomprehensible both in its editing and writing. I think some people like it purely because it directly follows a vastly superior film.

    Regarding NTTD budget. How much of the reported $250 is Craig’s salary
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 440
    I've always appreciated QOS more than I've ever actually loved it. It's always felt a bit too rushed to me, and I've often wondered how it might have been improved had it been pushed back to the summer of 2009.

    Still, there's a lot there I do enjoy, the Opera House sequence is stunning, David Arnold gives us his best work on the series, and I like that they made it a proper followup to the themes and plot of CR.

    :Edit: The NTTD delays makes me hopeful that we'll get a much more polished film than QOS or SP, given they've had much more time to work on it.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    I think some people like [QOS] purely because it directly follows a vastly superior film.
    That's the same longtime reasoning I've heard given for why some film goers didn't like QOS.

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    Well they took 3 years for DAD. It’s not as bad as some say. Change the title to Icarus and get rid of jinx and you have a good bond film
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited November 2019 Posts: 1,165
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Well they took 3 years for DAD. It’s not as bad as some say. Change the title to Icarus and get rid of jinx and you have a good bond film

    DAD has way more issues than just the title, as if that has any barring on the quality of the film... getting rid of a Jinx is a good start, but you’ve only touched upon the tip of the iceberg there.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Minion wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Well they took 3 years for DAD. It’s not as bad as some say. Change the title to Icarus and get rid of jinx and you have a good bond film

    DAD has way more issues than just the title, as if that has any barring on the quality of the film... getting rid of a Jinx is a good start, but you’ve only touched upon the tip of the iceberg there.

    +1
    Matt007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.

    I agree QOS is poor - largely incomprehensible both in its editing and writing. I think some people like it purely because it directly follows a vastly superior film.

    Nope, I like it because it's enjoy its plot, its soundtrack, the actors' performances and the dialogues. Weird, I know.

  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    Walecs wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.

    I agree QOS is poor - largely incomprehensible both in its editing and writing. I think some people like it purely because it directly follows a vastly superior film.

    Nope, I like it because it's enjoy its plot, its soundtrack, the actors' performances and the dialogues. Weird, I know.
    +1, right back attcha. :)
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    RC7 wrote: »
    I was mixed on QOS from the start and have only liked it less in the passing years. Now it feels redundant and I wish Craig had a completely different film with another director behind it instead. All the action IMO obnoxious and atrocious.

    I struggle to disagree, although I’ve always had a consistent, ‘Yeah, fine’ attitude towards it. What I’ll give QoS is that it’s one of those peculiar anomalies that really enrich the series. In that regard it’s really welcome, but when it comes to the nitty gritty, on its own, I find it hugely overrated by the fan community.

    People always point the similarities with Bourne, but for me it comes off like a generic Gerard Butler euro actioner. It lacks the more classy feel of the other Craig films. Maybe that uniqueness appeals to some, more power to them.

    For all QOS faults it nowhere as woefully redundant and tension lacking than SPECTRE, how anyone can excuse this film is beyond me, I loved the DC era till that came along.

    No QOS is not perfect by a long stretch but it plays to DC's strengths, SP almost tries to reinvent his Bond and then try to also have the emotional Bond, it's a jarring mess of a film.

    In short it's bloody awful.
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    Mendes was wrong for Spectre.

    That film probably needed a more action oriented director.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,861
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    If NTTD crosses the 1billion mark, Do we think the Next Bond will be casted sooner?
    No, I think they'll take as long as they need to cast James Bond. Characteristically they tend not to rush things and will take as long as they need, and when they have tried to get the films out quicker, it hasn't always worked out (Quantum of Solace, Spectre), concretely in my opinion proving that taking their time can heavily benefit the films (Casino Royale, Skyfall).

    It's interesting, and probably unsurprising, to note that the two most unsuccessful films of the Craig-era are the ones that were churned out quicker, so could we possibly see the "delay" of No Time to Die as a blessing in disguise?

    Look how quickly the other guys can make great Mission Impossible movies though. It shouldn't be impossible (ho ho).
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited December 2019 Posts: 5,834
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    If NTTD crosses the 1billion mark, Do we think the Next Bond will be casted sooner?
    No, I think they'll take as long as they need to cast James Bond. Characteristically they tend not to rush things and will take as long as they need, and when they have tried to get the films out quicker, it hasn't always worked out (Quantum of Solace, Spectre), concretely in my opinion proving that taking their time can heavily benefit the films (Casino Royale, Skyfall).

    It's interesting, and probably unsurprising, to note that the two most unsuccessful films of the Craig-era are the ones that were churned out quicker, so could we possibly see the "delay" of No Time to Die as a blessing in disguise?
    Look how quickly the other guys can make great Mission Impossible movies though. It shouldn't be impossible (ho ho).
    I mean I'm not really one to comment on this because I only really like MI: Fallout, not really a big fan of the previous entries, but even then I think the Mission Impossible and the James Bond films are very different products of the spy genre.

    To me the Mission Impossible is an action-packed blockbuster, whereas the James Bond franchise is a different kettle of fish, and while the James Bond franchise also includes action, it has more to think about than just what action set pieces do we want to see Tom Cruise in this time? And I'm sure the MI franchise would also have major delays if it suffered the same problems...

    Different productions, different rules.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Funnily, the M:I films are not too dissimilar from the Craig era films.

    “Ugh, it’s personal stakes yet again. Why is Hunt always a rogue agent in these films? Another mole in their organization, what is wrong with the IMF?!”
  • Funnily, the M:I films are not too dissimilar from the Craig era films.

    “Ugh, it’s personal stakes yet again. Why is Hunt always a rogue agent in these films? Another mole in their organization, what is wrong with the IMF?!”
    LMAO, that's true.

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