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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @barryt007, where is it sitting in your rankings currently? Happy to see you warming more and more to it.
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    16th i think @Creasy47 but it deserves more respect than that..i need to mull it over...just watching Bond visit Mathis (Bond's best ever ally along with Quarrel and Ali Kerim Bey)
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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
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    Love Mathis. I wish he stuck around longer.

    If they ever go back to Fleming in a big way, I'd love to see Mathis brought back as he is in the books. A great reason to get Bond to France, too.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    20. The Living Daylights
    At 20??? REALLY?!?!?!!??!?

    :-O
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I don't think that I've seen any less than 30 times, including SP.
    MR, AVTAK, CR & SF all less than 30.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    20. The Living Daylights
    At 20??? REALLY?!?!?!!??!?

    :-O
    Yep, it's not doing it for me so much anymore. Koskov, Whitaker, the Cello case sled scene, the dragging along in Afghanistan and bad humor just ruin an otherwise standard Bond film for me.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    Sounds about right.
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    It's bottom of my list ....
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I too have lost a lot of interest in TLD. It starts of incredibly but really drops off during Afghanistan. Too much action and not enough suspense imho. I much prefer LTK.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Murdock wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    20. The Living Daylights
    At 20??? REALLY?!?!?!!??!?

    :-O
    Yep, it's not doing it for me so much anymore. Koskov, Whitaker, the Cello case sled scene, the dragging along in Afghanistan and bad humor just ruin an otherwise standard Bond film for me.

    You have to see it from the other side:
    - Excellent Bond intro and PTS
    - Koskov defection
    - Safehouse infiltration and Green 4 fight
    - Car chase
    - Pushkin interrogation
    - Cargo net fight
    - I'll include the Bond/Saunders relationship which I've grown to like, it's more fleshed out than many of the other allies.
    - The score of course

    But I can understand John Glen humour is very misplaced, sometimes funny (eg. in OP) but inappropriate in TLD, and how it can ruin the movie for some.

    It's an easy 1st place for me. Although this year's Bondathon OHMSS may displace it
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I too have lost a lot of interest in TLD. It starts of incredibly but really drops off during Afghanistan. Too much action and not enough suspense imho. I much prefer LTK.
    Definately !

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Tastes are different. Nonetheless I'm glad @Murdock stirred such an uproar placing TLD to No 20.
    Usually I stir up the s*** ;)

    By the way... DALTON RULEZ™
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TLD & LTK, my number 1 & 2 Bond movies.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    w2bond wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    20. The Living Daylights
    At 20??? REALLY?!?!?!!??!?

    :-O
    Yep, it's not doing it for me so much anymore. Koskov, Whitaker, the Cello case sled scene, the dragging along in Afghanistan and bad humor just ruin an otherwise standard Bond film for me.

    You have to see it from the other side:
    - Excellent Bond intro and PTS
    - Koskov defection
    - Safehouse infiltration and Green 4 fight
    - Car chase
    - Pushkin interrogation
    - Cargo net fight
    - I'll include the Bond/Saunders relationship which I've grown to like, it's more fleshed out than many of the other allies.
    - The score of course

    But I can understand John Glen humour is very misplaced, sometimes funny (eg. in OP) but inappropriate in TLD, and how it can ruin the movie for some.

    It's an easy 1st place for me. Although this year's Bondathon OHMSS may displace it

    Those things are good of course but sadly for me the bad outweighs the good. I want to enjoy it like others do but those things I mentioned earlier just sour the film for me. I much prefer Licence To Kill.
  • GBFGBF
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    I think TLD is an excelent film from start to finish. LTK is just a solid revenge film but nothing more. Dalton is overacting in LTK and the locations are among the worst in the series. Furthermore, the humour is much more displaced in the gritty and dark LTK wheras it really works in the more moderate TLD. Even te cello ride is not overly silly, the car chase is amusing and the use of gadgets is good too. Bond is also much more human and vivid than in LTK where his urge for revenge is a bit unrealistic in my eyes. We all know that Bond is a friend of Felix but more on a prosfessional level. They worked together but their relationship has never been that deep in the franchise. There have also been hundreds of other alies being killed in the meantime and Bond even though he is emotionally touched and might long for revenge still manages to focus on his actually mission.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I always found LTK more in tune with Dalton's characterization of James Bond. Much more so than TLD, in which I found him uncomfortable on many an occasion. Not that he wasn't uncomfortable in some LTK scenes (notably with Lowell), but at least the intensity of his pursuit of Sanchez was more consistent with Dalton's portrayal of the character. It was genuine.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Dalton's acting in LTK is so overdone if it was a steak it would be charcoal....
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    w2bond wrote: »

    You have to see it from the other side:
    - Excellent Bond intro and PTS
    - Koskov defection
    - Safehouse infiltration and Green 4 fight
    - Car chase
    - Pushkin interrogation
    - Cargo net fight
    - I'll include the Bond/Saunders relationship which I've grown to like, it's more fleshed out than many of the other allies.
    - The score of course

    I'll agree with all of those being excellent components of the film except the three that I have Bolded. That is one of the lamest car chases in the series. I also never understood the praise that the cargo net fight gets, I find it dull and silly. The only Barry score that I don't care for; it's needling and repetitive, by the end of the film I want to jam a pencil into my ear.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    The cargo net fight is incredibly tense. I love it.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Cargo plane set seemed incredibly difficult to shoot. Love the shot of all the bags flying out of the plane as the two desperately cling on still fighting.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    Cargo plane set seemed incredibly difficult to shoot. Love the shot of all the bags flying out of the plane as the two desperately cling on still fighting.

    It is a nice shot and decent stunt work, but I find the fight itself dull.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Dalton works for me on every level in both Bonds. Hell, he alone made The Rocketeer a better film than it might otherwise had been.
    Not that I'm a fan or anything...
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    DALTON RULEZ™


    You better believe it people.

    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is probably the one movie I won't discuss as for me it is utterly perfect, Heaven on Earth, sheer Bliss and happiness and everybody is just fabulous in it.
    John Barry provided his best work as well. It features three sung Bond themes. All of them better than most of the other Bond themes combined.

    As for LICENCE TO KILL I get the criticism. There are some spots that are flawed and it's nowhere near the level of TLD, still it will never go further down in my ranking than 9, and it's only 11 at the moment because I have three films at 9 as a tie actually.

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    Dalton's acting in LTK is so overdone if it was a steak it would be charcoal....

    I feel a bit uneasy about Dalton in parts of LTK too.

    The scene when he's with Lupe in the casino and "take me to him!" is a good example.

    The dramatic movement infront of Lupe and the pause he does before delivering the line. Feels like he's pushing the drama a bit.

    Also, I'm not too sure about his performance during the whole sequence in and around Hemmingway's house. Brown is excellent and you can really sense his anger at Bond (I love his delivery of "your licence to kill is revoked"). However, Dalton's performance in that scene feels a bit forced to me - the acting shows.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    But people, at least Dalton acts, not like some of his newer colleagues.
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    But people, at least Dalton acts, not like some of his newer colleagues.

    The best type of film acting is where it doesn't show.

    I keep trying to imagine Connery or Craig in the Hemmingway house scene and I can see them doing it in quite a different way.

    I'll agree Dalton was a bit awkward in some of the lighter moments of TLD but in general I think I find his intensity there more convincing.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    But people, at least Dalton acts, not like some of his newer colleagues.

    The best type of film acting is where it doesn't show.

    That's a matter of taste. I love slightly overacting like for instance Patrick Stewart does with Captain Picard.

    Dalton is a theatre actor as well and imho it was perfect for his two Bonds.

    The way he reacts to finding Felix bleeding on the sofa and then his wife...it sends chills down my spine everytime, it may just be the best acted moment in all of the films, actually.

    There is drama in his acting and it takes me right into the movie.

    His car ride with Saunders in TLD is another example of how it has to be done.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    Of the six, Dalton appears to be the least comfortable in the role, to me.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Dalton's acting has been hit and miss for me. At times he's good in the more calm and subtle approaches but when he gets "Angry" or Emotional it comes off like he's trying too hard and it looks forced. The only Bond actor who has really pulled off anger well is Connery.
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