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It would be interesting to start a thread with this topic. God and Christianity in the Bond novels, I mean.
It would have a short life, I'd wager.
On this forum? Most definitely - still it exists...
I'm sorry to see this thread go so far away from the intended topic, I'll see if I can steer it back on course.
That's the one!
I know, I started it.
back on topic (sort of): a bullfighter villain, as a henchman or a mastermind, would that work? Obviously he would be practicing it as a hobby. Which leads to another question: can bullfighting be a hobby?
Well, we already have one in the form of Domingo Espada in Doubleshot - it would make an excellent contemporary James Bond film.
No I don't think so. I think it's rather like being a king fu master or ballerina in that its almost like being a monk. You have to go away from your family and live and breathe the art of bullfighting every day. It's not something you can just pick up and put down wily nily.
There goes my idea... I was already imagining an action sequence with picadors trying to get to Bond, then one guy running after him with a sword. Oh well.
I don't see anything wrong with that. The villain throwing Bond in at the deep end or hunting Bond like the bull could work. And of course because its Bond he would be able to turn his hand pretty successfully to any aspect of bullfighting. Only possible in a book though as the whole thing is too contentious these days for EON to touch.
Classic - no wonder the guy went bankrupt. Wasnt it something like 100 pairs? Cubby must've gone mental!
Yes, something like that. It's like the other one where he said imagine a crocodile got into bed beside Bond. Cubby said "well, what happens next?" Harry said, "I don't know" but he thought it was a good snake pit idea!
Maybe it could work, if the villain has his own private arena (in Michael Connely's black ice the villain, a drug baron, has one, wonder if he took this from real life cases). He might have hired a disgraced bullfighter with sociopath tendencies. Maybe it is too contentious for EON to touch, but it could make for a great scene.
Traditionally it was a hobby from what I know. Nowadays I don't think so. In Portuguese bullfighting the forcados (as seen in OHMSS) are all amateurs (besides being crazy).
Maybe in Portuguese bullfighting, but real matadores must be professional. And committed, given the bad reputation and the controversy the ''sport'' has now.
The most brazen Christian reference I think is in DN, where Bond/Fleming openly muses about the disposition of souls. Bond is certain that Quarrel and No would not go to the same place. Fleming clearly believed in a final dispostion of souls.
Fleming was an educated man who dabbled with Christian themes, which is not uncommon in literature. There are other references in the books, more oblique, but one does have to be familiar with the themes in order to recognize them.
I think that Bond's personal moto, "I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time," although a Flemingism, is quite consistent with gospel teaching, and is sage advice for anyone to follow. ie, our task here on earth is to live each day, to use our talents for the greater good, and not spend undo time navel-gazing over the futility of it all, fearing to act etc, which is the accidie that Fleming was so opposed to.
Fleming was an interesting man. There is much of interest to be gleaned from his scribblings, including his occasional theological musings.