How would Mallory have handled Bond in CR & QOS?

edited February 2013 in Bond Movies Posts: 1,280
Fired him immediately or wouls this have had the potential to create a brother-like type of relationship rather than the Bernie Lee clone we saw in the last acene of SF lol? This M is starting younger than any of his predecessors.

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  • 002002
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    he probarly would have sent him out to kill Harry Potter rather than go to Casino Royale
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    He wouldn't fire immediately an agent with that sort of potential. He would probably have tried to create a relationship of mutual trust before sending him in an important mission again.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Possibly made him go back to doing standard intelligence duties and having his 00 license revoked.
  • doubleoego wrote:
    Possibly made him go back to doing standard intelligence duties and having his 00 license revoked.

    Yep. He would have demoted him back to standard intel until he proved he better understood the complexities of the job. I thought CR and QOS did well with that progression, if you're going to go back to the beginning this was mostly done right.
  • doubleoego wrote:
    Possibly made him go back to doing standard intelligence duties and having his 00 license revoked.

    Yep. He would have demoted him back to standard intel until he proved he better understood the complexities of the job. I thought CR and QOS did well with that progression, if you're going to go back to the beginning this was mostly done right.

    Agreed.
    Looking at CR, QOS and now SF, it is clear that the Bond/M relationship is the most important thing that really resonates throughout those films. M likes him because he runs on impulse and is idealistic in CR. She gives him the benefit of doubt in QOS but by the end after temporarily doubting him she trusts him wholeheartedly. So when SF arrives the pair's relationship is solidified despite the fact she left him for dead.
    There's a very strong maternal link between the pair. He's the unruly schoolboy and she's the strict headmistress.

    No M's gone I don't think Bond will take to kindly to Mallory. Mallory has been presented as a stuffy bureaucrat who is more interested in due-procedure than following Bond's instinct. This is going to be very exciting to see on screen. If Mallory was running mi6 back in CR he would likely have Bond permanently suspended after the Madagascar Embassy shooting. So I think the dynamic between the pair will likely be very frosty from here on.
  • No M's gone I don't think Bond will take to kindly to Mallory. Mallory has been presented as a stuffy bureaucrat who is more interested in due-procedure than following Bond's instinct. This is going to be very exciting to see on screen. If Mallory was running mi6 back in CR he would likely have Bond permanently suspended after the Madagascar Embassy shooting. So I think the dynamic between the pair will likely be very frosty from here on.

    I'm not sure about that. I think at first that's how Bond saw Mallory, but he gained great respect for him after the courtroom scene. Between the wink he gives him and the enthusiastic "with pleasure, M" he delivers during the ending, I'd say Bond and Mallory will have a pretty good relationship.
  • jackdagger wrote:
    No M's gone I don't think Bond will take to kindly to Mallory. Mallory has been presented as a stuffy bureaucrat who is more interested in due-procedure than following Bond's instinct. This is going to be very exciting to see on screen. If Mallory was running mi6 back in CR he would likely have Bond permanently suspended after the Madagascar Embassy shooting. So I think the dynamic between the pair will likely be very frosty from here on.

    I'm not sure about that. I think at first that's how Bond saw Mallory, but he gained great respect for him after the courtroom scene. Between the wink he gives him and the enthusiastic "with pleasure, M" he delivers during the ending, I'd say Bond and Mallory will have a pretty good relationship.

    JD, I find myself more in line with your view. P2D, you make good points especially about what happened in Madagascar, that would have never been tolerated by any M other than Dench's. But by the end of SF our new M had by action and deed earned Bond's respect in ways Dench's didn't, and vice versa. When Bond turns up with the "take the bloody shot?" you can see he's visibly frustrated that after all this time and what he's proven to her, she still has a measure of distrust he doesn't see a reason for. No other M would have ever presumed their top agent wouldn't get the better of Patrice and retrieve the hard drive. Bond calling M a bitch during the role play with the psychologist showed exactly what he thought of her in a single word and how bitter he was over her most recent decision that affected him more deeply than any before. Bond seemed very happy with falling in line under his new boss, and was looking forward to the greater degree of autonomy and respect he had earned through his own actions and deeds. It's an everyday occurrence carried out here, when you get a new boss who you respect and feel understands you better following your old boss who you thought was ignorant and unappreciative of those same qualities, you're going to react much the same way we see here.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    002 wrote:
    he probarly would have sent him out to kill Harry Potter rather than go to Casino Royale

    Oh, that's great! =))

    Somebody, anybody, I want some fan fiction on this, stat!
  • jackdagger wrote:
    No M's gone I don't think Bond will take to kindly to Mallory. Mallory has been presented as a stuffy bureaucrat who is more interested in due-procedure than following Bond's instinct. This is going to be very exciting to see on screen. If Mallory was running mi6 back in CR he would likely have Bond permanently suspended after the Madagascar Embassy shooting. So I think the dynamic between the pair will likely be very frosty from here on.

    I'm not sure about that. I think at first that's how Bond saw Mallory, but he gained great respect for him after the courtroom scene. Between the wink he gives him and the enthusiastic "with pleasure, M" he delivers during the ending, I'd say Bond and Mallory will have a pretty good relationship.

    JD, I find myself more in line with your view. P2D, you make good points especially about what happened in Madagascar, that would have never been tolerated by any M other than Dench's. But by the end of SF our new M had by action and deed earned Bond's respect in ways Dench's didn't, and vice versa. When Bond turns up with the "take the bloody shot?" you can see he's visibly frustrated that after all this time and what he's proven to her, she still has a measure of distrust he doesn't see a reason for. No other M would have ever presumed their top agent wouldn't get the better of Patrice and retrieve the hard drive. Bond calling M a bitch during the role play with the psychologist showed exactly what he thought of her in a single word and how bitter he was over her most recent decision that affected him more deeply than any before. Bond seemed very happy with falling in line under his new boss, and was looking forward to the greater degree of autonomy and respect he had earned through his own actions and deeds. It's an everyday occurrence carried out here, when you get a new boss who you respect and feel understands you better following your old boss who you thought was ignorant and unappreciative of those same qualities, you're going to react much the same way we see here.

    I agree. I thought it was completely clear that *both* Mallory and Bond have genuine respect for each other by the end of the film. I don't mean to put anyone down, but there are times that people seem to not notice things that were clearly presented up on the screen so I wonder if I was the only one not texting my friends or surfing the internet when the film was playing! Like in another thread today, someone was complaining about how stupid it was that Bond took M to a place with no weapons there (Skyfall lodge) when there was a whole scene dedicated to explaining it!

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