Struggling HMV Calls In Administrators.

MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
edited January 2013 in General Discussion Posts: 13,894
HMV has thrown in the towel after years of struggling to fend off nimbler rivals by calling in administrators in a move which puts more than 4,000 jobs in jeopardy.

As Sky News revealed exclusively earlier on Monday evening, the board of HMV has served notice of its intention to appoint Deloitte to oversee last-ditch efforts to rescue the high street entertainment retailer.

Following a board meeting that lasted several hours, HMV directors, led by the chairman, Philip Rowley, and chief executive Trevor Moore, decided the business could no longer trade without insolvency protection.

HMV had been in talks with its lenders until last week about a new financing package, the terms of which could not be agreed, according to insiders.

The company said on Monday:

"On 13 December 2012, the Company announced that as a result of current market trading conditions, the Company faced material uncertainties and that it was probable that the Group would not comply with its banking covenants at the end of January 2013. The Company also stated that it was in discussions with its banks.

Since that date, the Company has continued the discussions with its banks and other key stakeholders to remedy the imminent covenant breach. However, the Board regrets to announce that it has been unable to reach a position where it feels able to continue to trade outside of insolvency protection, and in the circumstances therefore intends to file notice to appoint administrators to the Company and certain of its subsidiaries with immediate effect. The Directors of the Company understand that it is the intention of the administrators, once appointed, to continue to trade whilst they seek a purchaser for the business."

Trading in HMV's shares, which are now expected to be worthless, will be suspended tomorrow morning.

The appointment of Deloitte follows the accountancy firm's work on the collapse of Woolworths in 2008.

HMV has been caught between the encroachment onto its turf of supermarket chains such as Tesco and Asda, and the explosive growth of digital specialists like Amazon which are unencumbered by hefty real estate costs.

Chuka Umunna, the shadow business secretary, said the news of HMV's potential demise was "deeply worrying":

"HMV is a national institution that has been a feature of our high streets for over 90 years, so this news is deeply worrying. For the sake of HMV’s employees, we hope a way can be found to keep the business going – the demise of this national institution would be a sad loss to British retail."

HMV traces its roots back to 1921, when Sir Edward Elgar, the renowned composer and conductor, opened its first store on London's Oxford Street.

Retail insiders said tonight that Deloitte was likely to be "inundated" with offers for parts of HMV's business, including its brand, but said it was unlikely that any buyer would emerge for the whole business.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/board-hmv-calls-administrators-220822274--finance.html

I consider myself a traditional consumer (the majority of DVD's I buy, I buy instore from hmv), so I will be saddened if this happens. Having spent many an hour browsing, i'm going to miss the horror section of my local store.
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  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    was just about to create a thread for this .
    its a sad day as i too can spend hours in my local store browsing through the thousands of blu rays and dvds.
    Amazon, Ebay and Tesco seemed to have killed HMV off ,the high street is dying more and more each day.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    DCisared wrote:
    was just about to create a thread for this .
    its a sad day as i too can spend hours in my local store browsing through the thousands of blu rays and dvds.
    Amazon, Ebay and Tesco seemed to have killed HMV off ,the high street is dying more and more each day.

    Precisely. Jessops last week, HMV this week, who knows what chain is due for the chop next.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    edited January 2013 Posts: 1,329
    prices will probably rise elsewhere now too as a result of less competition (not that HMV was much competition it seems) . i certainly dont get the same feeling when buying my films with my fruit and veg as i did when i would visit woolworths or hmv.
  • Posts: 6,432
    Gutted when i heard the news, i have resisted to buy online if i can help it. HMV is my favourite store for movies and music and can happily browse 30 minutes to a hour. Its great when you stumble across something unexpectedly, that you instantly want when you see it.

    Never been into downloading movies, i like to have something tangible, like a great looking box set :-)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Pretty saddening. Been on the cards for years but its just not the same browsing on Amazon. That said I'm as guilty as the next man as if HMV are charging £12 and Amazon £10 then it's Amazon who gets my business. At the end of the day the free market will always have casualties.

    Does this mean the SF HMV steel book exclusive will now never see the light of day?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    If HMV remains trading online (just like Woolworths), then the steelbook will still be released.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    As a member of the original Fopp work force ( not the HMV version ) my thoughts go out to all the workers, I know how this kind of thing feels.

    Although this was inevitable, they haven't been the giant they'd been for a number of years and have had financial troubles for sometime, this is what comes of everyone choosing the internet (me included) over the high street, we can mourn it but we've only ourselves to blame.
  • Posts: 366
    Sad news.

    I do always try my best to buy from HMV, but it is hard when Amazon sell everything much cheaper.

    I remember when I was kid my mum would take me to HMV once a month to buy two Bond VHS priced at £16.99 each! I've still kept the stickers on them.

    Our price, Zavvi and now HMV.

    :( :( :(
  • I remember our price...way of the world...the digital revolution I'm afraid. I spent hours in my yuff fingering through 12 inches, 7 inches and albums... Those days are gone. 4000 jobs ouch...no more fingering for me anymore.
  • That's a shame.

    I go there pretty much every week.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't know much at all about this HMV, but they sound like great stores. A real shame that online business once again inevitably prevails.
  • RC7RC7
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    One of the few reasons to visit oxford street. Their bbc drama section was second to none.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited January 2013 Posts: 9,117
    I remember when there was no Internet and going to London to HMV Oxford St was like a VHS Aladdins cave compared to the desert of Our Price and WH Smiths in Stafford.

    Restores my faith in mankind RC7 to see a bloke who knows his Stewart Lee - especially after reading the posts in the 'best sitcom' thread on here.
  • Posts: 469
    actonsteve wrote:
    One of the few reasons to visit oxford street. Their bbc drama section was second to none.

    Have to agree - used to spend hours when in London in that store. Even met Sir Rog there only last year
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited January 2013 Posts: 13,894
    I see Our Price (there used to be one here), and Zavvi (we never had one of those) have been mentioned. Anyone else remember Silverscreen? They weren't around for that long and only sold DVD's.
  • Posts: 406
    Stupidly expensive, only ever bought in the shop was if I saw something I wanted and bought it on impulse, but even there online shop is expensive
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,350
    Can you imagine that high-street in ten years time? Shame. GAME may be next.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 5,802
    Well, here, in France, it's Virgin that's in its death throes. Too bad, because I loved to go in the Champs-Élysées Megastore. Could the other big chain, FNAC, be next ? Quite possibly.

    Anyway, one of the pleasures in going to stores, as opposed to buying online, was that sometimes (well, often) you might find something you didn't expect to be there. I discovered the Cottars thanks to Virgin. I also found that "scandalous" Petula Clark americna TV special she did in 1968 with Harry Belafonte. Too bad, really.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Guess I'm relying on Tesco and Amazon to get my DVDs from now on then.

    I felt sadder when Woolworths closed down because I worked there for a bit when I was a teenager.
    RC7 wrote:

    I met him once, and I've seen him live before. Great comedian.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited January 2013 Posts: 13,894
    Amazon *spits* I have other online sources for out of print and/or R1 DVDs, i'll use them. Not to mention local 2nd hand DVD shops, which have often turned up some hard to find (not to mention, inexpensive) films. But the loss of HMV's horror section will be felt when it happens.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote:

    I met him once, and I've seen him live before. Great comedian.

    Ditto. I've seen him upwards of 20 times now. It's amazing to see how his shows evolve across a run. Did you see 'Carpet Remnant World' live? I will never ever get bored of listening to him.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    RC7 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:

    I met him once, and I've seen him live before. Great comedian.

    Ditto. I've seen him upwards of 20 times now. It's amazing to see how his shows evolve across a run. Did you see 'Carpet Remnant World' live? I will never ever get bored of listening to him.

    Went to Carpet Remnant World last year - genius. Have you got the Fist of Fun DVD that him and Herring released themseleves because the beeb wouldnt (probably too busy paying for shite like Mrs Browns Boys)? I remember FOF being brilliant at the time but am worried it might not be as good as I remember if I watch it now.

    Perhaps we should organise an MI6 members Stewart Lee night out next time hes on tour? For discerning members only - ie: if you answer 'yes' to the question 'Do you like Michael Mcintyre?' you automatically dis-invite yourself.
  • RC7RC7
    edited January 2013 Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:

    I met him once, and I've seen him live before. Great comedian.

    Ditto. I've seen him upwards of 20 times now. It's amazing to see how his shows evolve across a run. Did you see 'Carpet Remnant World' live? I will never ever get bored of listening to him.

    Went to Carpet Remnant World last year - genius. Have you got the Fist of Fun DVD that him and Herring released themseleves because the beeb wouldnt (probably too busy paying for shite like Mrs Browns Boys)? I remember FOF being brilliant at the time but am worried it might not be as good as I remember if I watch it now.

    Perhaps we should organise an MI6 members Stewart Lee night out next time hes on tour? For discerning members only - ie: if you answer 'yes' to the question 'Do you like Michael Mcintyre?' you automatically dis-invite yourself.

    Yes. A mate of mine had VHS copies from the nineties so I was reasonably familiar with it, but a lot of the content on the DVD I don't remember seeing before. I would describe it as 'charming' and ten times better than some of the utter corporate drivel that's rammed down our throats these days.

    An MI6 Stewart Lee night would be brilliant. If we could catch him at the Hampstead Comedy Club, even better. There's only room for about 30 people. It's like having him in your living room. His current high-profile might have put paid to that, however.



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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Well, HMV were overpriced and don't offer much variety and flexibility from stores like Tesco, Asda, online services and even the likes of cex, who have been growing considerably since 2006 but we'll see.
  • Posts: 15
    Hmv Oxford st is the one I'll miss the most!! The soundtrack, jazz and classical depts are great!!

    Plus... I have f##ing vouchers for the shop!!! Selfish arse wipes, yet again totally mis-management at the top, which effects the poor buggers below!! I'm Sorry for all there shop floor staff!!
  • Posts: 366
    The website is down now.
  • 002002
    Posts: 581
    man this is very disapointing...hmv was rather good for exporting dvds to other countries :(
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    News on twitter is that blockbuster is about to go into administration another 4000 jobs at risk!
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 132
    Every single time I went to London, a visit to the HMV in Oxford Street was a must!
    I loved the variety in the store, and the price for a DVD/Blu-Ray was so much lower than here in Norway.

    You will be missed!
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