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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    “But! Kathleen Kennedy is the devil!”
    That was not said, just that she will probably be moving on after the release.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    talos7 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    “But! Kathleen Kennedy is the devil!”
    That was not said, just that she will probably be moving on after the release.

    I’m not mocking the video, I’m sure it’s a more positive take than the typical YouTuber. I just refuse to watch videos when it could easily have been transcribed in a blog.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,983
    talos7 wrote: »
    In short, he’s heard that it’s very good, premiering in Canne is a show of confidence. It will be accompanied by a tribute to Harrison Ford. He also absolutely DOES NOT believe that there were massive reshoots and revisions.

    Thanks. Yup, that's what we're saying here too. We know for a fact there weren't reshoots, because it had been certificated by the MPAA before the point the weird YouTube liars were saying it was having reshoots. At least a month ago in fact.
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    “But! Kathleen Kennedy is the devil!”
    That was not said, just that she will probably be moving on after the release.

    I’m not mocking the video, I’m sure it’s a more positive take than the typical YouTuber. I just refuse to watch videos when it could easily have been transcribed in a blog.

    Indeed; sounds like this one could've been a tweet.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    It’s so bizarre how triggered some are that someone does a video presentation. It’s just another format for expressing an Idea.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,983
    Even more bizarre to be triggered by someone being triggered, though isn't it? And repeat to infinity.
    These terms like 'triggered' are meaningless.

    Maybe I'll make a half hour video about it.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Oh boo hoo, I called out YouTubers for being grifters. So sorry.

    Not sorry. ;)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    So bizarre…
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    No need to be bitter, Talos.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Not bitter in the least; amused would be a more appropriate description.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,983
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
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    Haha!

    Incidentally: it's just occurred to me. Remember Eon's big 'no spoilers' push for NTTD? How it was premiered about a day before release? All to hide the fact that Bond dies. Lucasfilm are happy showing this seven weeks before it releases, which perhaps suggests that either they really want people to know Indy dies- or maybe he just doesn't.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I remain cautiously optimistic. For those who knock Kathleen Kennedy or those who make her a genius. There is most likely a truth point in the middle. There is no denying her history with blockbusters and great films.

    The BO of Star Wars has dropped with each successive film. She hired lots of directors with much fanfare and then fired them all or delayed their projects. I am not sure there are any big screen releases coming.

    Is this all on her? Maybe the hiring and letting go of talent is tied to her. Though one could argue that she had the good sense to not let Rian J have his own trilogy after Last Jedi. The duo behind Solo were let go for creative differences, not sure what those were but she damaged the chance of that film making money. She hired and then fired the duo behind Game of Thrones, Patty Jenkins was hired and then her project was delayed.

    Does make one wonder about her leadership and choices of talent. What type of power or creative control did she have on DOD? I would say likely very little.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Not only is that on topic, but also matches my current expression.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,983
    thedove wrote: »
    Does make one wonder about her leadership and choices of talent. What type of power or creative control did she have on DOD? I would say likely very little.

    I think likely quite a lot. She's been on Indy since way before she was on Star Wars (starting on Raiders), she was on set on day one, and is married to the producer of the films. She would be involved quite a bit. Moreso than other exec producers like George Lucas, certainly. When we're speaking choices of talent, I'm not sure what's wrong with James Mangold. Have a look at his track record.

    But equally I'd say that it seems these films are made by their directors and producers. I wonder how much creative control Spielberg had, although I'm sure he had input.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I want it to be good, but I refuse to think in advance it’s going to be good or bad based on anything I’ve seen or know thus far. I thought KOTCS looked pretty good from trailers, as I do this one, but that turned out less than stellar for me. By the same token I’ve been pleasantly surprised by stuff too. What really doesn’t make sense to me is rooting for the movie to fail. Like, don’t we all want to just enjoy ourselves? There are some individuals though who seem to get all their energy from negativity.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    thedove wrote: »
    I remain cautiously optimistic. For those who knock Kathleen Kennedy or those who make her a genius. There is most likely a truth point in the middle. There is no denying her history with blockbusters and great films.

    The BO of Star Wars has dropped with each successive film. She hired lots of directors with much fanfare and then fired them all or delayed their projects. I am not sure there are any big screen releases coming.

    Is this all on her? Maybe the hiring and letting go of talent is tied to her. Though one could argue that she had the good sense to not let Rian J have his own trilogy after Last Jedi. The duo behind Solo were let go for creative differences, not sure what those were but she damaged the chance of that film making money. She hired and then fired the duo behind Game of Thrones, Patty Jenkins was hired and then her project was delayed.

    Does make one wonder about her leadership and choices of talent. What type of power or creative control did she have on DOD? I would say likely very little.

    I’d say Disney has played a part as well in how they boss around their subsidieries. Look at that whole fiasco where they fired James Gunn from GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 3, only to rehire him sometime later which caused the film a longer delay than it should have had.

    Another big factor is their RUSH RUSH RUSH of the sequel trilogy. Ideally, those films should have had three years in between like the previous trilogies and I bet you that Kathleen Kennedy 100% agrees with that assessment. Disney has pushed the Star Wars franchise way too fast and aggressive to the detriment of the filmmakers’ creative output.

    In spite of that, Disney has still enjoyed major success with the brand. The only real failure in terms of box office was SOLO.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The only real failure in terms of box office was SOLO.
    Would Deep Fake have fixed that do you think??
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    The only real failure in terms of box office was SOLO.
    Would Deep Fake have fixed that do you think??

    Well...
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I liked the actor. I thought he sold it as younger Han.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Solo is not a bad film; Ron Howard did a Herculean job in salvaging it .
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    We might see something new from the film today. Lucasfilm panel at Celebration starts in two hours.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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  • UnivexUnivex
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    Looks good!
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’m looking forward too this.
    But then I was looking forward too KOTCS.
  • ZekidkZekidk
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,169
    Great....except that I am tired of hearing that Stones track in a trailer or movie. Hope there is a new iconic setpiece in there, that we haven't seen before, which was pretty much trademarks of the first three.

    When will we know the runtime?
  • PDJamesBondPDJamesBond
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    AHHHHHH That looks wonderful! I guess it confirms that Toby Jones is Helena's father.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Looks brilliant; and Ford is looking great, especially on the horse.

    Beautiful new poster too, might be favourite of the bunch.

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  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    The poster is good.
    Is it official?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    It’s refreshing to see art rather than the overused photo collage.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Oh damn, the Paramount logo is there!
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