Quantum of Solace - The worst Bond flick to date

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  • 002002
    Posts: 581
    QOS is the worst bond film of all time...it is utter abysmal

    it is not james bond but just an imitation of Jason Bourne and a pathetic one at that
    burn it with fire!!!

    i know there are some clunkers like Die Another Day, A View to a kill, Never Say Never Agian but honestly this "bond" film is utter FUBAR

    Horrible Editing, Abysmal storyline, bland bond girl who i actually wanted to get shot, craig was just medicore, the villian is so bad that an ice cream truck would be more sinister...not even Judi Dench could save this trash...i just cant believe people defend this shit.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,690
    It's still the pimple on the ass of Bond films, eh @002 ? ;)
  • Simply...NO!!!

    I dont really get the criticisms this film receives, absolutely ridiculous if you ask me.
  • 002002
    Posts: 581
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/reviews

    really nearly every review apart from 3 or 4 says otherwise...
  • 002 wrote:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/reviews

    really nearly every review apart from 3 or 4 says otherwise...

    Excuse me, I'm a grown man. I don't care much for reviews, I'll make my own opinion and that is all that matters. I just don't subscribe to some views, they seem a bit daft.
  • Posts: 1,052
    I'm not really one to jump on a bandwagon but I genuinley believe this is the worst film in the series so far, DAD is obviously a bit of a stinker but at least it kind of feels llike a Bond film and it tries to entertain, QOS seems to hold fans of Bond in contempt by ignoring them!
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    DAD is obviously a bit of a stinker but at least it kind of feels llike a Bond film and it tries to entertain, QOS seems to hold fans of Bond in contempt by ignoring them!

    I agree, except for DAD being a stinker. CR also holds Bond fans in contempt IMO, but even more! Well said that DAD feels like a Bond movie, even though you say "kind of". I´ve seen people say that it doesn´t feel like Bond, so it is good that it gets some recognition in that department.
  • Definitely wouldn't rate this as the worst Bond film. Despite the weak script....I absolutely see what Marc Forster was trying to do and in many way succeeded in doing. The look of the film is very stylish, modern and has a classic maturity to the overall feel of it. The opera sequence is just incredibly stylish and cool to me.

    I'd say in terms of worst bond film...I think the stars aligned for AVTAK. Even though DAD is an embarrassing entry...and certainly joining company at the bottom of the list....it was at least sensory overload fun.

    For me, QOS ranks fine. It's buttressed by far superior installments and far weaker installments.
  • Posts: 224
    QOS is the one Bond movie that I have no interest in watching again. But that's me.
  • Ellis wrote:
    QOS is the one Bond movie that I have no interest in watching again. But that's me.

    It's funny...because it is a Bond film that is the least memorable for me. I don't jump at watching it. I attribute that fundamentally to the script. There are scenes I'd love to watch...but stand alone...not in the context of sitting through the whole film. And still I wouldn't place it as worst...because there are a couple Bond films that have really no redeeming quality to them for me except the fact that they are part of the Bond cannon and legacy.

    The highs and the lows makeup the 007 franchise legacy. I think the range of quality and approaches over the years is part of the charm of the series...the knowledge that a better or campy or serious or awful installment either proceeds one or follows another.

  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    Actually, that the film is not bad. It is a great movie, the fact is, that the ppl just didn't like the kind of action that appeared in this Bond film. Bond seeked revenge and killed everyone he finds. That's not Bond, because he actually has caution before killing someone Before he really needs to. And he learns that at QoS' end, by M.
    It was Bond in it's begginning of the career. He searched revenge for the one that killed his loved Vesper. The ppl wanted a Bond film like any other, like... Brosnan's, for an example. But they got a movie with more Action than espionage (a little quote could be the Bond infiltration at the journal's factory on TND to acquire the red decoder, that's the stealth infiltration they wanted) and they started to hate it.
    Now, with my grown opinion, there's no other Bond movie - than DAD, by now; except for all the other movies i've didn't seen yet - that i hate. All of them, for me, are fantastic.
    I love action, that's it. I also love Espionage. Bond can make Both. But Bond's style to make the things also impress me. That's why i like 007.
    QoS is a great film, that's it.
  • Posts: 1,082
    QOS the worst? No way, that title belongs to CR (Crappino Boreale).

    No offense, but that is a nickname that I found on another site and it doesn´t mirror my own feelings towards the film. I just wanted you to see it.
  • Posts: 5,745
    QOS the worst? No way, that title belongs to CR (Crappino Boreale).

    No offense, but that is a nickname that I found on another site and it doesn´t mirror my own feelings towards the film. I just wanted you to see it.

    Why? To spark another one of your harsh debates, where you endlessly slur your opinions? No thanks. If its unoriginal, don't bother. I don't think we're interested.

    And still, I don't mind Quantum of Solace, but I've never heard a soul say it was better than Casino Royale.
  • edited April 2012 Posts: 1,082
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    QOS the worst? No way, that title belongs to CR (Crappino Boreale).

    No offense, but that is a nickname that I found on another site and it doesn´t mirror my own feelings towards the film. I just wanted you to see it.

    Why? To spark another one of your harsh debates, where you endlessly slur your opinions? No thanks. If its unoriginal, don't bother. I don't think we're interested.

    And still, I don't mind Quantum of Solace, but I've never heard a soul say it was better than Casino Royale.

    No, not at all. I don´t think I´m harsh, when I write something here it´s always with the glint in my eye. I never write anything in anger or too much seriousness.

    Someone posted a claymation video between Roger and Sean. Because he wanted people to see it, it could be funny. I posted this nickname. Why? Because I want people to see it, it could be funny, even for CR-lovers.

    And I respect if you don´t like me, but I still ask you to rather ignore me than to write angry messages. You know, it´s not good for the atmosphere in here.

  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    edited April 2012 Posts: 2,635
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    QOS the worst? No way, that title belongs to CR (Crappino Boreale).

    No offense, but that is a nickname that I found on another site and it doesn´t mirror my own feelings towards the film. I just wanted you to see it.

    Why? To spark another one of your harsh debates, where you endlessly slur your opinions? No thanks. If its unoriginal, don't bother. I don't think we're interested.

    And still, I don't mind Quantum of Solace, but I've never heard a soul say it was better than Casino Royale.

    Yeah, for me it isn't too, really. But we can always say it has more action.
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    I'm not really one to jump on a bandwagon but I genuinley believe this is the worst film in the series so far, DAD is obviously a bit of a stinker but at least it kind of feels llike a Bond film and it tries to entertain, QOS seems to hold fans of Bond in contempt by ignoring them!

    This. DAD was a bad, terrible bond film, but it's still bond. QOS doesn't feel like 007 at all.
  • I think that for us Bond fans who like a great story, it's easy to place QoS at the bottom, and as the topic says, yes it is the worst flick, But the action scenes alone are quite impressive and let's be honest. For example if I wanna see a Bond movie with a non-Bond fan, like with some of my friends, I know they'll enjoy QoS. Like a friend once said "This is Bourne on steroids." to him it was a good thing. On the other hand I wouldn't play for them something like DAF or YOLT because they'll think is slow and outdated. So I sometimes join them in their point of view and understand where they're coming from. I know this is a much inferior Bond entry but I feel a lot of people out there would enjoy its frenetic, edge of your seat style, specially younger viewers. I was thinking Why on Earth is Bond in an explosive hotel?? but then again I had the sound way up and I was into it. So I don't confront people who say it was awesome anymore, I'm happy they enjoyed it, and hope that one day they'll understand what a Bond film is all about.
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    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    QOS the worst? No way, that title belongs to CR (Crappino Boreale).

    No offense, but that is a nickname that I found on another site and it doesn´t mirror my own feelings towards the film. I just wanted you to see it.

    Why? To spark another one of your harsh debates, where you endlessly slur your opinions? No thanks. If its unoriginal, don't bother. I don't think we're interested.

    And still, I don't mind Quantum of Solace, but I've never heard a soul say it was better than Casino Royale.

    I've stated before that for me QoS was a more purely enjoyable film than CR. For me personally CR was simply a huge relief after the dross of the Brosnan period. I had begun to think that we would never see a decent Bond movie ever again. CR had some great dialogue, good characters and looked fantastic, but was over long and (IMO) a bit boring. It didn't hit the spot. I really appreciated the faster pace that Forster tried to achieve with QoS. It doesn't work 100% but with the opera scene taken into account I actually feel QoS feels more like a proper Bond film than any of the movies since TLD.
  • Posts: 11,425
    I think that for us Bond fans who like a great story, it's easy to place QoS at the bottom, and as the topic says, yes it is the worst flick, But the action scenes alone are quite impressive and let's be honest. For example if I wanna see a Bond movie with a non-Bond fan, like with some of my friends, I know they'll enjoy QoS. Like a friend once said "This is Bourne on steroids." to him it was a good thing. On the other hand I wouldn't play for them something like DAF or YOLT because they'll think is slow and outdated. So I sometimes join them in their point of view and understand where they're coming from. I know this is a much inferior Bond entry but I feel a lot of people out there would enjoy its frenetic, edge of your seat style, specially younger viewers. I was thinking Why on Earth is Bond in an explosive hotel?? but then again I had the sound way up and I was into it. So I don't confront people who say it was awesome anymore, I'm happy they enjoyed it, and hope that one day they'll understand what a Bond film is all about.

    I remember watching QoS and being disappointed at the blatant Bourne rip-off sequences. As much as I like the Bourne films, Bond is obviously supposed to offer something different. Having said that, QoS has enough stylish scenes and decent Bondian touches to lift it above any other Bond film for quite some time. As I say above, while neither CR or QoS is quite the fully rounded product the could have been, they both mark substantial steps back towards 'real' Bond films after four of the worst entries in the entire series. Craig has restored some self respect to the series and is well cast. He really needs a classic movie now to cement his legacy and a good dose of humour.
  • Posts: 5,745
    ^Its not a rip-off if the same people do it.

    The same stunt teams and even lower level directors worked on both Bourne and Bond, so its not a rip-off. Its a sort of.. recreation.
  • Posts: 11,425
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    ^Its not a rip-off if the same people do it.

    The same stunt teams and even lower level directors worked on both Bourne and Bond, so its not a rip-off. Its a sort of.. recreation.

    That's a very legalistic point of view. If one franchise appears to do similar things to another, then most people would regard that as copying. Any way, copying isn't necessarily a bad thing. FRWL 'borrows' heavily from North by North West, but in such a way that it still feels original. I disliked the rooftop chase, close-quarters fighting and final Russia scene in QoS because they felt like lame, unimaginative copying from Bourne. I thought the Bourne films were amazing and am actually a big fan of the slower paced first film in that series. Any way, we expect Bond to do things differently - with more panache and grace than Bourne. Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.

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    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

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    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

    Dear oh dear. What an insult to Rog to mention him in the same sentence as the Broz. Rog is a living legend. Brozza was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    . Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.

    How true...its shocking how sloppy and lazy the Brosnan era got at the end. Lazy stories, lazy dialogue, lazing acting.

    QoS is like a sharp stiletto compared wth those.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    True. Had QoS been number 21, more people would be full of praise for it. But since QoS got to be compared to CR, instead of DAD, the bar was raised significantly.
  • Posts: 12,837
    Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

    Dear oh dear. What an insult to Rog to mention him in the same sentence as the Broz. Rog is a living legend. Brozza was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.

    BROSNAN WASN'T BAD!!! His last film was bad but he was fine as Bond. GE, TND and TWINE were all good. And DAD up until Q bought out the invisible car was great.
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    Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

    Dear oh dear. What an insult to Rog to mention him in the same sentence as the Broz. Rog is a living legend. Brozza was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.

    No the worst thing happening to the franchise is EON without the sense and insight of Cubby. His brood lack insight, which has hurt every movie since they took over.

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    SaintMark wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

    Dear oh dear. What an insult to Rog to mention him in the same sentence as the Broz. Rog is a living legend. Brozza was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.

    No the worst thing happening to the franchise is EON without the sense and insight of Cubby. His brood lack insight, which has hurt every movie since they took over.

    I can sympathise with that view to some extent, although Cubby's legacy was the appalling choice of Brozza as the next Bond.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Getafix wrote:
    Getafix wrote:

    Disappointing, but despite all that QoS is still better than anything with Brozza in it.
    No! Brosnan is the king of Bond, while Moore is the Bond god.

    Dear oh dear. What an insult to Rog to mention him in the same sentence as the Broz. Rog is a living legend. Brozza was the worst thing that ever happened to the series.

    BROSNAN WASN'T BAD!!! His last film was bad but he was fine as Bond. GE, TND and TWINE were all good. And DAD up until Q bought out the invisible car was great.

    I'm afraid a lot of people disagree with you. For me the whole Brozza era now (thankfully) seems like a bad dream. CR and QoS have put the series back on track, but I'm still waiting for a killer movie. Hopefully Skyfall will deliver.
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    What's a definition of a killer movie?, A nightmare on Elm Street or something ?

    Actually, I think I see what you're getting at, but surely Royale was adequate in that capacity?

    And yet again, Brosnan was nowhere near as bad as Bond as some make out, he wasn't all culpable for the mess on the screen sometimes when he was featured
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