Quick Big Mi6 Actor Ranking Game - 6th PLACE

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  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    mtm wrote: »

    His autobiographies are fantastic fun if you ever fancy reading them, really interesting stuff.

    And they are free online!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited August 15 Posts: 4,427
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    royale65 wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I have always been a fan of David Niven, outside the world of Bond, but also as part of CR67. The man is just always a very charming presence. There's just something incredibly likeable about him.

    I also think he is one of the highlights of CR67, a film that I actually really like (despite its many many shortcomings), bringing a dignified retired James Bond to the table that I, in all honesty, enjoy more than my least favourite EON 007.

    As such, Niv came in 6th for me.

    I quite agree. It would be interesting to see Niven cast as Bond as a younger man in a "serious" Bond film. I think he would do an admirable job.

    If he could lose the moustache, absolutely!

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    You know I can't imagine Sir Nov without his delectable and iconic facial furniture.

    @mtm I wonder if Fleming knew Niven as a Commando?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    zebrafish wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »

    His autobiographies are fantastic fun if you ever fancy reading them, really interesting stuff.

    And they are free online!

    Thanks! :)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Starting off the week with our first EON Bond discussion, at #6:

    PIERCE BROSNAN
    Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in
    GoldenEye (1995), Tomorrow Never Dies (1997), The World Is Not Enough (1999), Die Another Day (2002).

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    Pierce ended up in only one top 3, which was however a first place, making him the lowest-ranked in general who is also someone's absolute favourite 007.

    He did complete six more top 5's, with two 4th and four 5th places. Five 6th places and, crucially, three penultimate places sealed the deal though. To put things in perspective, that's three members preferring at least one non-EON Bond over Pierce.

    The only Bond that had no Fleming material to work with did bring in some excellent box office figures and was, and I think still is, very popular amongst general audiences. Children of the 90's will also remember his era as a succesful videogame period for 007.

    Unfortunately for Pierce, the distinct academy that makes up this particular game, decided that was not enough to end up higher in the overall ranking.

    In total Pierce Brosnan obtained 71 points.

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    Well, thats a surprise!!! I felt sure poor George would be next! I had Brossa at #7 , would have had him last only for the presence of Barry! He does absolutely nothing for me as Bond, his debut in GE I found him wooden, stiff ("stiff assed Brit!" 😆) bland, and outshone by even lesser stars like Scorupco and Coltrane! He never got any better for me, and his "acting" ,especially in TWINE was nothing short of embarrassing! Here in Ireland, it was all over the news about the Man from Meath, and what a great Bond he was going to be, and is, but I never thought he was the right choice! He has his fans, and good luck to them, a lot of them probably came into Bond around his debut, and that's fair enough, but I will never be convinced he did anything good for the role ( and yes, I'm ready for the counter argument, he put bums on seats!!! Doesn't cut any ice with me, it's how good he was in the role that counts, and he wasn't!) Phew, rant over! Onwards and upwards 😁
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    No offence guys, but putting Brosnan below Lazenby is mad! :D
    (I'm afraid I totally forgot to enter my ranking so I'm here purely as an observer)

    Still, a bit of controversy keeps things interesting!
  • edited 8:48am Posts: 2,651
    Yeah to have Brosnan ranked the lowest of the EON actors is pure madness - especially below Lazenby. Seems like the hate boner for the guy is quite strong around here. Needless to say Brosnan is my favorite of all the Bonds - I’ve been quite clear about that before so I had him at Number One. I think for a time he was unfairly thrown under the bus by some fans - but he’s becoming more appreciated within the wider fandom. He encompasses everything I want from a Bond actor and always felt he delivered consistent performances - which is more than I can say for certain other Bond actors. In the end Pierce has cemented his legacy as Bond - bringing in legions of fans and bringing 007 back from the brink of death. While I think he most definitely should’ve been higher on this list - he was the definitive 007 for an entire generation (myself included) - this is too low a ranking for the guy.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm surprised. Brosnan should not be underestimated. He was a very fine Bond, certainly far above the acting range and charm of George Lazenby (who I also like, by the way). This is nevertheless a result I find hard to agree with.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited 8:56am Posts: 4,461
    I have to agree with most of what @Mathis1 is saying. I never really warmed to Brosnan, as Bond, even though he came off that really enjoyable Remington Steel series and was a perfect fit for the remake of The Thomas Crown Affair. His acting does come over as somehow wooden and often I felt he appeared detached from what was going on. For example, I do not like it when someone looks elsewhere while talking to someone in front of him. Brosnan did that a lot of the time, with a world-weary facial expression and voice. You might argue that that's his schtick, and that's fine for his interpretation of Bond, but I would say he was simply just good enough for the role and at that time.

    So far, my ranking 100% agrees with this game.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I haven't really worked out my ranking, but I think I'd probably put him in 4th place. Others did it better and he doesn't have some of the plus points of the others, but for my money he's still a very effective film star with lots of charisma. Other actors would have been drowned out by something like DAD, but I come out of it remembering him in the middle of it all.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I am rather nostalgic towards Pierce's Bond as he was Bond when I was a wee lad at the time when I became a fan.

    Personally, I think he is excellent at being a good-looking, fun-loving, action and humour-oriented 007. I'd say the more dramatic moments might not have been his forte, but his 007 is elegant and funny in my book, a Bond one would very much like to be.

    His non-Bond work (apart from that ABBA thing) has been excellent as well I think, and while we're not rating that here, I thought it fair to mention it.

    Overall he's my 5th favourite Bond, by no means because I don't like him, on the contrary, it's just that I like four others even more.
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    I can understand Brosnan’s maybe not everyone’s cup of tea. I’d say significant beats of his performance in TWINE are questionable. I wouldn’t say he was the strongest lead actor the series has ever had, but he has charisma and screen presence.

    I personally rate his performance in GE very highly. Actually I’d argue it was a stronger, more confident screen effort than either of Dalton’s. I consider it one of the best Bond performances. I really like him in TND too, and despite a few odd moments and the material he had to work with, I actually think he’s generally good in DAD.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I personally rate his performance in GE very highly. Actually I’d argue it was a stronger, more confident screen effort than either of Dalton’s.

    Easily, yeah.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    edited 1:38pm Posts: 2,264
    Nelson 8th, Niven 7th and Brosnan 6th is exactly how I ranked these gentlemen.
    There is so much an actor can do with the material he's given and Brosnan certainly wasn't to blame for the mostly dire dialogue he was gifted.
    Definitely a fine actor, but the trademark smugness which may be appealing in a character like Remington Steel, is much less befitting a character like Bond in my opinion.
    As for Lazenby, he can be derided till kingdom come, but for my money he exceeded Brosnan in just about every department, except for looks.
  • I ranked the actors based on three things: firstly and most importantly on how I liked their performances, secondly on their version of the character, and thirdly (and mostly as a tiebreaker) as an ambassador of the franchise.

    I ranked Brosnan 5th. In GE, his performance is appropriately stoic, but I can't really think of any defining feature or moment for his Bond in the film.

    In Tomorrow Never Dies Brosnan turns up the charm and his Bond performance reaches the Connery-Moore averageness that he's generally known for. There are some serious moments, and Brosnan does well with them, but he also does well with the lighter moments, giving a more well-rounded performance than Goldeneye.

    TWINE is a mixed bag. Sometimes Brosnan does too much, but he still balances serious and light relatively well.

    DAD is perhaps his best performance. He makes some of the sillier lines and scenes a bit more serious, and he gives quite a good performance across the first hour when the material demands his credulity.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't push him higher than fifth. Lazenby was carried quite a bit by his film, and Brosnan was a better ambassador regardless, so he got into 5th comfortably. With the other four, you had the two biggest icons of Bond (Connery and Craig), and two actors who I really enjoy in their Bond films (Moore and Dalton). Even though he was great, and probably deserved higher, I couldn't make any space for him.
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