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Great call @Denbigh mate
Yes he was.
There is if acting ability doesn't come into it...
You are making an invalid assumption…
I think this is a good summing-up. He's definitely got the masculinity I think most are hoping for. I don't see him as someone who is likely to make very surprising choices which is perhaps not quite what I'm hoping for (and I may well be wrong about that) but I think he's a good choice and I think he's the kind of actor who suits a Villeneuve project.
If we're talking looks, I feel like something has happened to his hairline recently (which I know seems an odd thing to focus on!) which has made him look really mature and masculine. He kind of has a stereotypically perfect hairline.
I think you might be making an invalid assumption that Leonard is talking about you...
I frequently interact with these 'fans' on a FB James Bond group. I'm not assuming anything, believe me.
For what it's worth I have more faith in him as an actor. And whoever is picked is going to be working with a team who are presumably going into this film wanting to craft a new, distinct version of Bond.
I know what you mean! I think a lot of it's the shorter, more refined haircuts. Might be a bit of mid 30s receding too (although I'm not actually too sure of that either way, and one can easily imagine him having more bouffant hairstyles when he was younger to hide a high hairline, which isn't as much a problem when older/when not a full time model). But he's definitely aged quite well. I think some of it's the fact that he's obviously had to work out for some of his recent films so comes off as more athletic/less skinny. Got quite a good voice too.
I do agree though that it can be easy to fixate on the superficials of appearance without seeing the bigger picture. None of us here or on social media I presume are casting directors, and in practice we have little concept of what to actually look for in a potential Bond. I'm sure it's not unheard of for many to not even watch performances by the actors who are mentioned in the potential actor thread. So it can be easy to be pulled in by an actor who looks a certain way but is rather dull in practice (or indeed ignore rather flat performances when/if their work is seen subsequently), or fixate on things like jawlines or big ears for a candidate who might actually be really good.
I think in practice Bond is a more flexible character with room for different interpretations compared to Reacher. Go back to the late 50s and you have those comic illustrations where Bond is very weathered and rugged looking, which seemed to clash with the more refined, smooth image some may have had with Fleming's Bond. Obviously we then got Connery who leaned into that (and even, rather bafflingly, had a Scottish accent). You then get Moore who comes off more gentlemanly and light, and indeed looks different. Craig I think makes sense in that context, but even he had noticeable similarities to Fleming's Bond with the eyes and cruel mouth etc.
I think it comes down to simply who they think best for the part. It's a choice. If they have an actor who looks 'traditional' (whatever that means in practice) but is rather flat and they'd deem to have limited appeal, then I don't think they'll pick them. But I don't think Turner's looks will be a problem, and if anything he's on the more quintessential side of tall, dark, and handsome (although he's got distinctive features, and even that's a benefit I'd argue).
He checks a lot of the boxes, and feels a bit similar to Brosnan's candidacy in the sense that there appears to be very little which is immediately objectionable about him. Safe choice? Maybe. Good height, build, presence, and an incredible voice. And, dare I say, a dash of a Hoagy Carmichael-ish look about him? ;)
Of all the slightly more established 'name' candidates, the path to imagining him as 007 feels quickest to me. Much more so than the Taylor-Johnsons, O'Connells, Jean-Pages, Pierres, and Lowdens of the world.
The strongest candidate i've seen so far. You're right, he certainly checks all the right boxes.
If he were the best actor of his generation, then maybe that would make up for it, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
I mean, if you're going to go for someone unconventional, at least he should be worth it.
I'm of the belief now that any major choice in any creative/entertainment field will have a high number of online detractors regardless of what the choice is or how well it's made.
I'd say he's a pretty damn good actor. One of the better young British ones about in film. But even then, Bond doesn't need to be played by the best actor of his generation.
As for if he's the 'safe choice', it really depends on who else is an option. I'd argue Craig was actually a safer option than people realise (I mean, he'd even had two Bond 'auditions' with Layer Cake and Tomb Raider. He was an experienced actor who had a few years on him which gave him more gravitas than the younger candidates. And unlike hypotheticals like Hugh Jackman he wasn't attached to another major franchise nor was he too famous). In theory, however, there aren't any safe choices with this sort of casting and any decision will be a gamble of some sort. If Turner's truly in the running he'll simply have to prove he's the right man.
Sure, but if they hire Cavill the complaint will probably be that he's too safe a choice. ;;)
I suspect anyone answering whether Sneider's reliable or not would have mixed things to say from what little I know. Honestly, any 'insider' with these 'scoops' are usually speculative to a point anyway.
I don't think any of what we've been getting over the past few months is clickbait or quite like the ATJ lies about contract signings or gun barrels though. I think you've got a big film that's simply at an early stage of development, with lots of ideas/potentials for Bond being thrown around (and yes, in truth I think they'll be discussing it even now, and have probably been doing so for a long time... hell, EON would keep an eye on actors even when they had incumbent Bonds. In fact we actually know Amazon have been discussing potential actors since at least last year, as Jennifer Salk said publicly). My guess is there's probably a limited amount of second hand stuff coming out about it, even if it's distorted. I don't think this report means that Turner is definitely going to be the next Bond - or even that he's Villeneuve's top choice necessarily - but it's not a stretch to believe they've discussed him as a possibility, and it wouldn't exactly be a secret. I also don't think it's unlikely he could get the role if he accepts/auditions.
I think he would bring some humour back to the role. He would be a good pick.
Is he unconventional? Seems very conventional to me. Who would be the safe choice?
I don’t think there’s any certainty around this at the moment, but I can kind of imagine a situation where they’ve spotted someone they like the look of and don’t want to lose him to a Marvel film or something in the time between now and Dune finishing and are looking at getting him. And with DV attached it might not be too hard to get someone to say yes, even without a script.
If he wears a pink shirt you might have to change your opinion.
What is Sneiders Track record with big reports?
Like I said, I don't think this is all inaccurate as such, and we're not dealing with rags making up sensational stories like ATJ doing a gun barrel. Just a lot of second hand stuff from 'insiders' about a film in its very early stages, of which very early/general information has gotten out. In practice, however, I think they, and we, know little.
Yeah to be honest i don't really put much into this report especially considering that no one knew it was going to be daniel craig until it was like officially decided a couple weeks before the announcement. I am excited we're at least getting something though think we'll get an official announcement in 2026
To be fair, I don't think that's necessarily true! And I'm not pointing the finger at you or anything, because it's something I was way too young to remember at the time, and something I only sort of got an insight into recently with an archived thread (with a rather misleading rumour/some comical, bad takes on this all in hindsight). This was more than a month away from Craig's announcement and presumably a while in which he'd been a name in the rumoured shortlist. They seemed to more or less know the options. Fascinating reading.
https://debrief.commanderbond.net/topic/25092-more-screentests-planned-for-new-007/
I can imagine for non-fans Craig would have been a surprise. But I think his name was being thrown around quite a bit for fans and he seemed to very much be in the rumoured last few. Some there even seem to believe he'd be good or at least passable! I think we're now into an early stage of this film essentially. It's an audition process still to be started as far as we know.
No what i meant was that there are lot of rumors and that the betting favorite around this period of the casting process for casino royale i mean clive owen example was the betting favorite
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/clive-owen-favourite-to-be-next-james-bond/KKFYW5QGP67ESYH6D3K6SM4R7Y/
But as the process went along daniel craig eventually became the favorite. So im just saying that this early on i don't really trust that their is any real "favorite" just my opinion of course.
I think it's a case where the casting process hasn't started yet, agreed. Anyone can drop out, get rejected, or refuse. I don't think any 'bookies favourite' or whatever matters in the slightest.
But I don't think there's any sort of pattern here in terms of who's rumoured earliest. It could be Turner or it might not at the end of the day. But he makes sense as someone to be considered.