No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

19479489509529531044

Comments

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,010
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Unless...
    ...these hints of cloning are true, and Safin has cloned himself. Remember, Safin doesn't seem to have aged since he tried to get Madeleine as a child, so what if that Safin is the original and he eventually tried to clone himself, unsuccessfully maybe, until the one who is around during the present events of the film, and then maybe reveals another clone or the original Safin, when that clone kills himself in front of Bond. A bit out there, but might be an idea of what's going on.

    The other thing I'm wondering though is why Bond is angry if Safin does indeed kill himself Does he need Safin alive for some reason?
    That'd be my guess: he's launched something or has something very crucial to Bond saving the day, and with him "killing himself" or perhaps a clone, Bond is enraged, thinking he's lost.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,654
    Weren’t there early reports stating how the villain of NTTD was supposed to die a pretty gruesome death? Or was this pre Fukunaga taking over??
  • edited October 2020 Posts: 4,292
    Is that Mads in the background?
    He's discovered Nomi is dead? Have we seen any shots of her after the "bunker raid"?
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2,568
    Maybe Safin kills himself and Bond is pissed by that. Remember Safin is half Japanese so a kind of harakiri would make sense. Bond is looking a little bit down like someone is lying on the floor. Perhaps Safin was the only one able to stop his worldwide master plan goin live, forcing Bond to a suicide attempt in order to save the world. On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,125
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,079
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    I have been wondering this myself. I really don't want this to be the case, but it is definitely possible... and that Bond's response in that photo is akin to Bond learning he killed the wrong Blofeld in DAF. There is some history with Bonds and duality. The twins in OP also come to mind.

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,654
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

  • Posts: 12,150
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    Not seen this photo before. Cool picture! :-bd
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2,437
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?

  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 241
    What if Safin's "I've made you redundant" line to Bond is his final line before he "dies" by his own hand?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,125
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 2,437
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,125
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
    Yeah, I also noticed that Bond has his jumper when he spots her, but doesn't when she leaves, so either some action ensues between those scenes or Bond gives it to you know who ;)
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 2,437
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
    Yeah, I also noticed that Bond has his jumper when he spots her, but doesn't when she leaves, so either some action ensues between those scenes or Bond gives it to you know who ;)

    The other M..
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited October 2020 Posts: 4,021
    What if Safin's "I've made you redundant" line to Bond is his final line before he "dies" by his own hand?

    It would be a pretty fantastic existential dilemma created for Bond if his villain kills himself once he figures his plan has come to fruition.
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
    Yeah, I also noticed that Bond has his jumper when he spots her, but doesn't when she leaves, so either some action ensues between those scenes or Bond gives it to you know who ;)

    The other M..
    Metroid_Other_M_Cover.jpg
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 2,437
    BTW: Adele will host 'Saturday Night Live' on October 24
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 5,717
    I cannot believe that Daniel won’t get to
    “ slay the dragon” in his final outing as Bond.
  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    edited October 2020 Posts: 131
    What if Safin's "I've made you redundant" line to Bond is his final line before he "dies" by his own hand?

    It would be a pretty fantastic existential dilemma created for Bond if his villain kills himself once he figures his plan has come to fruition.
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
    Yeah, I also noticed that Bond has his jumper when he spots her, but doesn't when she leaves, so either some action ensues between those scenes or Bond gives it to you know who ;)

    The other M..
    Metroid_Other_M_Cover.jpg
    =))
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    Posts: 247
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    On the other hand Bond meets Safin later on as well, down those underground tunnels (we see Safin pointing the gun at someone), so maybe he successfully cloned himself.
    I wondered this too.

    I'm also aware of this image, with Safin looking a little more dishevelled than other images...

    safin.jpg

    This image in particular has me perplexed. This MUST come after he & Bond have their face to face meeting. Who else would he be pointing the gun at besides Bond?

    @DonnyDB5 @Denbigh

    Could he be pointing at Swann on the ground, maybe she's crying, scared?

    And in comes Bond, fighting begins 007 vs Safin while Swann escapes out to Nomi/girl/rib boat and not knowing Bond's fate?
    It's possible @Contraband, although we know (I think) that Bond accompanies Madeleine to the boat. So I think it's gonna be a situation where Madeleine, and even Nomi, try to get Bond to get on the boat with them, but he decides to go back for some reason. Maybe to get Safin or stop the plot...

    ...which makes me think, they wouldn't try to leave if the plot wasn't stopped, or at least Nomi wouldn't, so Bond has to go back for Safin surely? Maybe the image above is that final interaction as opposed to before Madeleine leaves.

    Yeah, perhaps you're right about Swann and Bond. Just come to think of the brief shot with them two near the glider area (I think) from Ellish music video. That might give us a hint of the timeline
    Yeah, I also noticed that Bond has his jumper when he spots her, but doesn't when she leaves, so either some action ensues between those scenes or Bond gives it to you know who ;)

    I think the jumper is handed off in the final new scene in the NTTD MV where Bond is embracing Madeleine - I personally think that is when she sets off with Nomi and other M in the rib boat. We have seen shots of Nomi, other M and Madeleine on the coastline for the final shots as well as Bond's jumper being present there as well.

    In terms of that shot of Bond scowling at something at the floor, if cloning really is one of the plot points then I definitely think it's Safin after he apparently kills himself. We then see him perplexed when he returns at the Garden of Death, and if not then its probably Primo he has just dispatched.

    For an extra twist, the person he scowls over could be a cloned Madeleine, even. If cloning really is going to be part of the film then this could totally be plausible, and it would also explain why Bond is so shocked as seeing Madeleine - we know from previous that he knows that Safin has captured Madeleine, and even chases through the forest the helicopter containing her so to see him so shocked to find Madeleine does not make any sense unless she has otherwise apparently succumbed.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    I still hope cloning isn't part of the film.
  • I actually would not mind to see cloning. An idea I've always liked is having a bond actor that does all his films in a different style, serious, humorous, outlandish, etc. I think if they go for that, Craig would have essentially done that to some extent and I'd be interested to see how it would work (or not).
  • imranbecksimranbecks Singapore
    Posts: 801
    Safin executing Nomi in front of Bond. A shootout or fight afterwards. Safin escapes and Madeleine comes up from behind. That's the way I see it.
  • Posts: 5,200
    imranbecks wrote: »
    Safin executing Nomi in front of Bond. A shootout or fight afterwards. Safin escapes and Madeleine comes up from behind. That's the way I see it.
    Nomi was seen in the photos of the supposed escape scene with Madeleine and the other M. All 3 in a rigid boat.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,654
    What if it’s
    Valdo
    that Safin kills?

    Maybe Bond needs him alive in order to stop Safin’s plan from materializing.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2,568
    Nomi won’t die...
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 485
    Univex wrote: »
    imranbecks wrote: »
    Safin executing Nomi in front of Bond. A shootout or fight afterwards. Safin escapes and Madeleine comes up from behind. That's the way I see it.
    Nomi was seen in the photos of the supposed escape scene with Madeleine and the other M. All 3 in a rigid boat.
    We have call sheets that suggest its not Nomi that dies. I am wondering if there is any validity to it being Safin that dies. Or maybe Q who was in the plane that drops the glider.
  • Posts: 5,200
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    imranbecks wrote: »
    Safin executing Nomi in front of Bond. A shootout or fight afterwards. Safin escapes and Madeleine comes up from behind. That's the way I see it.
    Nomi was seen in the photos of the supposed escape scene with Madeleine and the other M. All 3 in a rigid boat.
    We have call sheets that suggest its not Nomi that dies. I am wondering if there is any validity to it being Safin that dies. Or maybe Q who was in the plane that drops the glider.
    I reckon that Bond is the one who dies. Fear not, his hobby is resurrection ;)
  • Posts: 159
    Are there any pics - apart from the BTS ones - of filming in Italy with Aston V8?
    Supposedly with Madeleine and Mathilde
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited October 2020 Posts: 2,437
    Are there any pics - apart from the BTS ones - of filming in Italy with Aston V8?
    Supposedly with Madeleine and Mathilde

    Nope. Not yet anyway. The only thing I've seen so far is the italian bush fire article plus assistant director posting this short video



    And I have two still with choppercam on the ground prepping for shoot. Plus a vague memory of a video with local journalists driving along the road filled with security and prod people. But no actual material from the filming
Sign In or Register to comment.