No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • edited July 11 Posts: 568
    Anyway, nobody has idea how it's gonne evolve.
    Stay in november ? No idea if in november the situation will be better or not than in 2021.
    Report to 2021 ? No idea if in 2021 the situation will be better or not than in november.
    No idea if the situation will be better one day at all. After all, there no vacine for the aids virus while scientist try to find year since what, 40 years now ?

    They delay it one month before last time, thay had time to annonce a possible futher delay until november. Maybe we can back on the topic, no need to discussing delay until one it's announce... It's like the discutions about "who would be the next Bond" : nobody here know and nobody here has the power to decide it: pointless discution.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited July 11 Posts: 3,947
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983
  • Posts: 97
    @DaltonCraig007 I am not optimistic, my point is simply that NTTD won't get delayed forever. A time will come when EON will say that it's more beneficial for them to go the VOD route than to delay the movie yet again. And they certainly won't wait until autumn 2021.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
    edited July 11 Posts: 7,155
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 11 Posts: 15,153
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?

    Your post has been flagged for spreading utterly stupid lies (not a surprise anymore coming from you).

    The death-rate in the US has been rising for the past few days.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-09/covid-19-deaths-tolls-rising
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-09/coronavirus-deaths-increasing-in-states-with-resurgences
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-07-10-2020-11594368064
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506819-coronavirus-deaths-rise-again-amid-mounting-outbreaks

    Edit: And so is the rate of positive tests in comparison to total tests administered. So its no longer about the virus being too fast for testing when the % of positive tests has been rising dramatically in certain cases (sometimes up to 4 times more than it was a month ago).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
    Posts: 7,155
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?

    Your post has been flagged for spreading utterly stupid lies (not a surprise anymore coming from you).

    The death-rate in the US has been rising for the past few days.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-09/covid-19-deaths-tolls-rising
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-09/coronavirus-deaths-increasing-in-states-with-resurgences
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-07-10-2020-11594368064
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506819-coronavirus-deaths-rise-again-amid-mounting-outbreaks

    Edit: And so is the rate of positive tests in comparison to total tests administered. So its no longer about the virus being too fast for testing when the % of positive tests has been rising dramatically in certain cases (sometimes up to 4 times more than it was a month ago).

    In comparison to the total cases it has dropped off considerably.
  • Posts: 1,853
    Anyway, nobody has idea how it's gonne evolve.
    Stay in november ? No idea if in november the situation will be better or not than in 2021.
    Report to 2021 ? No idea if in 2021 the situation will be better or not than in november.
    No idea if the situation will be better one day at all. After all, there no vacine for the aids virus while scientist try to find year since what, 40 years now ?

    They delay it one month before last time, thay had time to annonce a possible futher delay until november. Maybe we can back on the topic, no need to discussing delay until one it's announce... It's like the discutions about "who would be the next Bond" : nobody here know and nobody here has the power to decide it: pointless discution.

    It's very on topic. People discuss away.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 11 Posts: 15,153
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?

    Your post has been flagged for spreading utterly stupid lies (not a surprise anymore coming from you).

    The death-rate in the US has been rising for the past few days.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-09/covid-19-deaths-tolls-rising
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-09/coronavirus-deaths-increasing-in-states-with-resurgences
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-07-10-2020-11594368064
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506819-coronavirus-deaths-rise-again-amid-mounting-outbreaks

    Edit: And so is the rate of positive tests in comparison to total tests administered. So its no longer about the virus being too fast for testing when the % of positive tests has been rising dramatically in certain cases (sometimes up to 4 times more than it was a month ago).

    In comparison to the total cases it has dropped off considerably.

    I see we have to explain once again about the 2 weeks delay between infections and deaths because some people just won't understand how this virus works.

    Half the ICU's in the most hit states are full, with cases increasing by over 10,000 each day. Your 'death-rate in comparison to the total cases' is an utterly meaningless statistic. There's over 63,000 new cases every day. You aren't very intelligent if you think it's good news that the death vs total cases rate is falling because expecting 63,000 deaths per day is just utterly stupid, and being happy that this % is dropping is also equally as stupid. The daily death-toll will increase to it's April/May peak again (2,500 deaths per day), so you should really stop using this statistic in a positive matter because you are just being totally oblivious to the gravity of the current situation.

    Once we reach 500,000 American deaths from Covid-19, I hope we won't get to hear you celebrating about the death-toll only representing x % of the total confirmed cases, so the pandemic 'really wasn't all that bad'.

    By the way, that reminds me you said in March and in April that the situation would get better soon. We are now in Mid-July, and the situation is still getting worse. Any other predictions you might share with us?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
    Posts: 7,155
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?

    Your post has been flagged for spreading utterly stupid lies (not a surprise anymore coming from you).

    The death-rate in the US has been rising for the past few days.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-09/covid-19-deaths-tolls-rising
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-09/coronavirus-deaths-increasing-in-states-with-resurgences
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-07-10-2020-11594368064
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506819-coronavirus-deaths-rise-again-amid-mounting-outbreaks

    Edit: And so is the rate of positive tests in comparison to total tests administered. So its no longer about the virus being too fast for testing when the % of positive tests has been rising dramatically in certain cases (sometimes up to 4 times more than it was a month ago).

    In comparison to the total cases it has dropped off considerably.

    I see we have to explain once again about the 2 weeks delay between infections and deaths because some people just won't understand how this virus works.

    Half the ICU's in the most hit states are full, with cases increasing by over 10,000 each day. Your 'death-rate in comparison to the total cases' is an utterly meaningless statistic. There's over 70,000 new cases every day. You aren't very intelligent if you think it's good news that the death vs total cases rate is falling because expecting 70,000 deaths per day is just utterly stupid, and being happy that this % is dropping is also equally as stupid. The daily death-toll will increase to it's April/May peak again (2,500 deaths per day), so you should really stop using this statistic in a positive matter because you are just being totally oblivious to the gravity of the current situation.

    Once we reach 500,000 American deaths from Covid-19, I hope we won't get to hear you celebrating about the death-toll only representing x % of the total confirmed cases, so the pandemic 'really wasn't all that bad'.

    By the way, that reminds me you said in March and in April that the situation would get better soon. We are now in Mid-July, and the situation is still getting worse. Any other predictions you might share with us?

    It appears I was right, unless you'd prefer to go back to that way of life, be my guest.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 11 Posts: 15,153
    It appears I was right, unless you'd prefer to go back to that way of life, be my guest.

    Another post flagged spreading lies and misinformation.

    Once we reach 500,000 American deaths from Covid-19, I hope we won't get to hear @Mendes4Lyfe celebrating about the death-toll only representing x % of the total confirmed cases, so the pandemic 'really wasn't all that bad'.

    Herd immunity is 220,100,000 infected Americans. A 1% death-rate means 2,201,000 US deaths. If over 2 million deaths is good news for you, you are officially a lunatic.
  • edited July 11 Posts: 225
    It appears I was right, unless you'd prefer to go back to that way of life, be my guest.

    Another post flagged spreading lies and misinformation.

    Once we reach 500,000 American deaths from Covid-19, I hope we won't get to hear @Mendes4Lyfe celebrating about the death-toll only representing x % of the total confirmed cases, so the pandemic 'really wasn't all that bad'.

    Herd immunity is 220,100,000 infected Americans. A 1% death-rate means 2,201,000 US deaths. If over 2 million deaths is good news for you, you are officially a lunatic.

    For reference, about 2.8million Americans die every year of all other causes combined. So another 2million deaths on top of that, even spread out over a few years is nothing short of unspeakable tragedy.

    I've had this argument with people who think we should never have locked down and continued life as normal to save the economy and asked them how long they think normal life would have continued while thousands and thousands of people were dying of some new virus. People would have been rioting and refusing to go to work and begging the government to do something.

    My mother got the test last night so hopefully comes out negative but I was told a close friend's mother passed yesterday who had been in the hospital with Covid for some time.

    Have also received news that several other friends have tested positive in the past few days. It just blew up again out of nowhere.

    This is a nightmare.
  • Though as far as my country is concerned they voted for Brexit and put the most inept government in the countries history back in power with a bumbling caricature with Churchill delusions in charge, so go figure.

    Hey, please don't speak for all of us. I didn't vote for Brexit or Boris Johnson. That referendum was idiotic and so is he.
  • Looking on the bright side, NTTD will eventually come out - whether's it in cinemas, VOD or a mix of both. It will eventually come out sooner or later. I know what I would prefer - November in cinemas, maybe very early 2021 if it's pushed back again and then streaming if that delay is too short. But we'll just have to wait and see. I still do want to see it but at this point I feel my enthusiasm has waned considerably and I don't want my excitement for build for it again until we know that this Schrodinger's film is definitely coming out on a particular date (which is quite depressing for me to say as someone who's been a die hard Bond fan from the age of 9 - I'm 27 now).
    We have all the time in the world, hopefully.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited July 11 Posts: 3,165
    Though as far as my country is concerned they voted for Brexit and put the most inept government in the countries history back in power with a bumbling caricature with Churchill delusions in charge, so go figure.

    Hey, please don't speak for all of us. I didn't vote for Brexit or Boris Johnson. That referendum was idiotic and so is he.

    He didn't, he only stated facts... your country voted for Brexit and your country voted for Boris. He didn't say everyone in the country voted that way.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 70
    Does anyone wonder why they still put: Albert R Broccoli's Eon Productions Ltd Presents: at the start of bond films since a lot of people know who should get the credit for making the films , Barbara Broccoli and Micheal g wilson who are Eon Productions Ltd now.

    250 million usd for NTTD is a lot of money these days, makes me wonder what the next bond film production budget will be ?

    At least half that ?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 17,975
    Shardlake wrote: »
    For all you herd immunity and Dominic Cummings fans.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

    How else do we explain the death rate drop in comparison to total cases?

    Your post has been flagged for spreading utterly stupid lies (not a surprise anymore coming from you).

    The death-rate in the US has been rising for the past few days.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-07-09/covid-19-deaths-tolls-rising
    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-09/coronavirus-deaths-increasing-in-states-with-resurgences
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-latest-news-07-10-2020-11594368064
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/506819-coronavirus-deaths-rise-again-amid-mounting-outbreaks

    Edit: And so is the rate of positive tests in comparison to total tests administered. So its no longer about the virus being too fast for testing when the % of positive tests has been rising dramatically in certain cases (sometimes up to 4 times more than it was a month ago).

    In comparison to the total cases it has dropped off considerably.

    @Mendes4Lyfe
    Even if the number of cases has dropped, one can hardly suggest that the situation is improving considerably. Then still, in the absence of a vaccine, the situation remains volatile. I don't think it's about anyone "wanting" to go back to "that life", but rather about accepting the fact that even if the numbers drop, they can rise again, and twice as fast, plummeting us all back in a situation of total lockdown. The kinetics behind a pandemic such as this are, to say the least, not in our favour.

    Cinemas can do and say what they want, but in my country, where they have already reopened, hardly anyone is going to them. People are worried, and justifiably so. All it takes is one superspreader or a ventilation system that doesn't live up to the requirements, and one person can infect twenty, who can each infect another three the next day, and so on. It may take between one and two weeks before the first case is actually reported and by then, this thing could easily have gone FUBAR again.

    Even if only one or two new cases would be reported daily, there's still no vaccine! It most likely started with just one person. Dropping from 60 000 to a mere 200 sounds like good news, but that means you still have 200 (reported) cases that could still push the curve upwards again, and very fast. This virus is incredibly infectious. Even those who survive an infection may spend the rest of their lives in a very weakened condition. The little bug can easily wear the healthiest of bodies down. If not the loss of life, then at the least the loss of a good "quality" of life is what frightens (smart) people. It'd still be different if we were all incredibly disciplined; but unfortunately, amongst the masses, there are numerous crazies who stubbornly refuse to live by the rules. They pose a threat that people factor in as well.

    So despite the fact that I've been looking forward to NTTD for years, even I might consider playing it safe and skipping the film in theatres this year. I regret it, but a few months' patience is a price I'm willing to pay for my good health.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 1,885
    Production trivia:

    1) Crew member Ian Whiteford (working title: Greensman) was in charge of all the plants during production. He was also present in Matera, working his magic. Probably scenes like the fake hotel room, balcony, hotel lobby etc. He made a comment on my Insta regarding the new photo with Safin pointing his gun. The Bonsai tree in the background is real and was according to him very expensive. But he wouldn't say if it's a japanese garden. Like talking to a wall..

    04a8rNl.jpg

    2) The man standing in the middle to the left of Cary runs Insta: fatcatmotoparc

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    He's a extreme Enduro bike rider and one of the stuntguys/baddies on a Triumph during the massive chase filming in Scotland. He told me that Cary was itching like hell to test the Triumph in the picture but he wasn't allowed due to safety and insurance issues. Cary was extremely disappointed. Basically banned by Babs and Michael. :))

  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 70
    Contraband wrote: »
    Production trivia:

    1) Crew member Ian Whiteford (working title: Greensman) was in charge of all the plants during production. He was also present in Matera, working his magic. Probably scenes like the fake hotel room, balcony, hotel lobby etc. He made a comment on my Insta regarding the new photo with Safin pointing his gun. The Bonsai tree in the background is real and was according to him very expensive. But he wouldn't say if it's a japanese garden. Like talking to a wall..

    04a8rNl.jpg

    What's Freddie Mercury doing in a bond film........ :)
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,176
    Cary is so cool :)
  • edited July 11 Posts: 421
    Thank you @Contraband for redirecting this thread.

    Is there any way folks can keep the box office opinions in the box office thread, the coronavirus opinions in the coronavirus thread, and discussions of political leaders in a politics thread or out all together. I'm sick of reading arguing no matter where I go on this site, particularly in this thread...and especially stuff like, "I'm reporting you." It's not pertinent to the topic. A little focus can go a long way.

    Back on topic, I think it's awesome that they're including bonsai trees to enhance the Japanese flair. I don't think we're getting a garden of death though...
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    I want to see a garden of death in this film so much ...
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,176
    I want to see a garden of death in this film so much ...

    Me too
  • Posts: 4,704
    I want to see a garden of death in this film so much ...

    Me too

    Me three.
  • Posts: 12,535
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    so is the film being pushed back AGAIN!

    Probably so. Looks like we’ll have to wait at least another 10 years for a chance to see a Bond film release in a year that ends with 0 (a random detail to point out, but I thought this would have been nice to complete the numbers).

    More like we'll have to wait ten years or so until the new Bond is cast.
  • Posts: 10,092
    Ludovico wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    so is the film being pushed back AGAIN!

    Probably so. Looks like we’ll have to wait at least another 10 years for a chance to see a Bond film release in a year that ends with 0 (a random detail to point out, but I thought this would have been nice to complete the numbers).

    More like we'll have to wait ten years or so until the new Bond is cast.

    Something like that, yeah. The wait for NTTD has been way too long, and the wait for B26 will probably be even worse.

    I also really want a Garden of Death, and a lot of novel YOLT influence as I’ve said many times. We will see.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 1,885
    JamesStock wrote: »
    Thank you @Contraband for redirecting this thread.

    Is there any way folks can keep the box office opinions in the box office thread, the coronavirus opinions in the coronavirus thread, and discussions of political leaders in a politics thread or out all together. I'm sick of reading arguing no matter where I go on this site, particularly in this thread...and especially stuff like, "I'm reporting you." It's not pertinent to the topic. A little focus can go a long way.

    Back on topic, I think it's awesome that they're including bonsai trees to enhance the Japanese flair. I don't think we're getting a garden of death though...

    @JamesStock Thanks man.

    Every damn post about corona in this thread should be deleted by the mod. It's not that hard sticking to the topic.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,054
    JamesStock wrote: »
    Thank you @Contraband for redirecting this thread.

    Is there any way folks can keep the box office opinions in the box office thread, the coronavirus opinions in the coronavirus thread, and discussions of political leaders in a politics thread or out all together. I'm sick of reading arguing no matter where I go on this site, particularly in this thread...and especially stuff like, "I'm reporting you." It's not pertinent to the topic. A little focus can go a long way.

    Back on topic, I think it's awesome that they're including bonsai trees to enhance the Japanese flair. I don't think we're getting a garden of death though...

    +1
  • Posts: 12,535
    Contraband wrote: »
    JamesStock wrote: »
    Thank you @Contraband for redirecting this thread.

    Is there any way folks can keep the box office opinions in the box office thread, the coronavirus opinions in the coronavirus thread, and discussions of political leaders in a politics thread or out all together. I'm sick of reading arguing no matter where I go on this site, particularly in this thread...and especially stuff like, "I'm reporting you." It's not pertinent to the topic. A little focus can go a long way.

    Back on topic, I think it's awesome that they're including bonsai trees to enhance the Japanese flair. I don't think we're getting a garden of death though...

    @JamesStock Thanks man.

    Every damn post about corona in this thread should be deleted by the mod. It's not that hard sticking to the topic.

    The issue issue is: the current pandemic has influenced greatly cinema industry and NTTD in particular. It is difficult if not impossible to avoid mentioning COVID-19 as it will likely have a lasting impact on the franchise. It might date NTTD, it might make it very topical, future Bond movies might not be released in cinemas, etc.
  • Latest research is showing that the virus thrives at 4 degrees C. Is it really wise to release in cinemas at the beginning of Winter with social distancing in place. My suggestion is release it POD going into this year's Christmas period. I suspect a lot of cash would be recouped instantly. Have limited release in cinemas including IMAX when the virus is finally under some kind of control.
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