Film you'd most like to experience from Bond's POV?

edited August 10 in Bond Movies Posts: 100
The gist: think of it as a mystical amusement park ride. You see what Bond sees, hear what he hears, feel what he feels, etc. You have no agency, however. You're simply along for the experience.

To make it more interesting: the experience extends to Bond's implied off-screen action.

Also, why?

So if fancying Eva Green has blinded you to the point of selecting CR, then excellent! Hope you're happy to face the monkey's fist and spend six months (?) real time recovering at Villa del Balbianello not being able to do anything about that fancying (also watching her drown after that).

Perhaps you've always wanted to duel with Scaramanga? Fine, but you'll be in an atypically pissy mood all the while (and how will that bode for putting up with Goodnight on a slow boat back from China?) Or maybe you've always wanted to experience a sword fight, and not even a 14-month stint in a North Korea dungeon followed by having to utter some truly cringeworthy expressions will deter you. Etc.

This is a game of pros and cons. Weigh them carefully.

Over to you.
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  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
    edited August 10 Posts: 16,120
    I've given some thought to this, and it can only be: TSWLM.

    Why? The reasons are simple & quite clear:

    1. I love gadgets
    2. I've always wanted to visit Cairo & walk among the pharaohs (as well as delve deeply into its treasures).
    3. Sardinia looks like fun too.
    4. Anya is delectable in that dress and shared bodily warmth is a pastime of mine
    5. Who wouldn't want to take that jump? Hope the chute works!
    6. controlling a Lotus underwater you say? Sign me up now!
    7. I'm a coward who doesn't like to get into brutal fistfights. Bond's are reasonably tame in this one (apart from being hurled across the cabin by Jaws)
    8. Nothing more honourable than keeping the British end up (saving the world is an added bonus)
    9. Roger Moore was my childhood hero
    10. Ego. Pure and simple. Nobody does it better.

    The only negative is my tryst with that babe in the Alps unforgivably has to be cut short (perhaps I could demand a slight script alteration. Surely England can wait, if only for a few minutes until I get off).

    Also, not having an opportunity for more than a taste of Fekkesh's dessert girl.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #BlackPantherSoLit #WakandaForever
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    TB easily! Fiona Ville. That experience trumps everything.
  • edited August 10 Posts: 10,844
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've given some thought to this, and it can only be: TSWLM.

    Why? The reasons are simple & quite clear:

    1. I love gadgets
    2. I've always wanted to visit Cairo & walk among the pharaohs (as well as delve deeply into its treasures).
    3. Sardinia looks like fun too.
    4. Anya is delectable in that dress and shared bodily warmth is a pastime of mine
    5. Who wouldn't want to take that jump? Hope the chute works!
    6. controlling a Lotus underwater you say? Sign me up now!
    7. I'm a coward who doesn't like to get into brutal fistfights. Bond's are reasonably tame in this one (apart from being hurled across the cabin by Jaws)
    8. Nothing more honourable than keeping the British end up (saving the world is an added bonus)
    9. Roger Moore was my childhood hero

    The only negative is my tryst with that babe in the Alps unforgivably has to be cut short (perhaps I could demand a slight script alteration. Surely England can wait, if only for a few minutes until I get off).

    Also, not having an opportunity for more than a taste of Fekkesh's dessert girl.

    Can't really argue with that. Only other contender would maybe me MR? Getting to go to space and save the entire world would be cool and there's so many exotic locations in that one but yeah have to give the edge to TSWLM. Skiing off that cliff, driving an underwater car, etc. And apart from being knocked about by Jaws a bit it'd be a relatively pain free experience. If you had to live out a Bond film that'd be the most fun by far.

    This has got me thinking, I watched Hardcore Henry recently and thought that was very good. Not sure about an entire Bond film in first person but it could be cool forus to get a glimpse of his world through his eyes. Maybe a Spy/Spectre esque PTS? Starts off with him with a girl, straight into a big action scene with an amazing stunt, but all filmed in first person with a go pro camera. Gimmicky sure but I think it could be a standout moment if it was done well. In fact that could be a great way to introduce the next Bond actor. Keep it first person until the very end where he can look in a mirror or something and we see his face. Switch to a normal shot/perspective, cue titles.
  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
    edited August 10 Posts: 16,120
    I really considered MR @thelivingroyale. Definitely up there. Same goes for TB @doubleoego.

    Regarding PoV for Bond, in a way they did that for Laz's intro. It was quite innovative for its time, especially when topped off with the fourth wall break.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I really considered MR @thelivingroyale. Definitely up there. Same goes for TB @doubleoego.

    Regarding PoV for Bond, in a way they did that for Laz's intro. It was quite innovative, especially when topped off with the Fourth wall break.

    True. I love Lazenby's intro of him smoking while tailing Tracy in the DBS. It's almost as good as Connery's. I wish they'd go back to that, making the reveal of the new actor as cool as possible. I guess they hid his face in GE but knocking out a guy on the toilet, as funny as it was, is hardly on par with Connery at the card table. Moore's is really fitting for his Bond but isn't really memorable. I guess Craig's was cool, waiting in the shadows for the traitor, but it still didn't seem like a big reveal like with Lazenby and Connery.

    I did enjoy how they did it in TLD though. Is that the new Bond? No he's crap and got captured straight away. How about this one? Nope, he's dead.
  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
    edited August 10 Posts: 16,120
    I did enjoy how they did it in TLD though. Is that the new Bond? No he's crap and got captured straight away. How about this one? Nope, he's dead.
    That's a good point. I always knew Dalton was the bond from the box cover so it wasn't much of a surprise to me, but I can imagine that some may have been confused. I agree that they should go for a big reveal next time.

    I'll always remember one of my earliest viewings of TSWLM with my parents on VHS. When Barsov turns over while in bed with Anya my dad said something along the lines of "oh no, it's not this guy is it?" I later realized he thought it was Laz (who he was never too keen on). Billington certainly could have been Bond.
  • edited August 10 Posts: 10,284
    I'd have to say experiencing TND from Bond's POV could be very fun too. Of all recent outings it's the only with without 1. a torture scene and/or 2. dramatic/psychological scenes with Bond - OK, there's the death of Paris but Brosnan seems to be having a ton of fun in the car park chase about 45 seconds later, so nothing to spoil the mood. You get to basically machine gun your way through the enemy forces for entire the last hour, and you never break a sweat at any problem as you always have the perfect gadget for every situation. TND would be the closest to a 'video game' shoot-em-up I can think of within the Bond franchise for this thread's question.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya "Friends... I don't have any friends"
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    There is no question for me. Definitely Quntum of solace because their is so much exhilarating action
  • edited August 10 Posts: 100
    5. Who wouldn't want to take that jump? Hope the chute works!
    @bondjames Of all the stunts, that's my #2 to experience. (#1 would be driving the bike off the cliff in GE and catching up with the plane.)

    Thing with the ski chute jump is, I wonder where you'd (1) end up and (2) how much of a hike there would be to get back to civilization. ;)

    @thelivingroyale That'd be interesting. Tough to make work without coming off as a gimmick, but as was mentioned OHMSS does something close to it very well. Maybe an outright POV could work as part of a short film (it'd be nice to get one of those with these four year gaps) or as some kind of promotional material, maybe to reveal the next Bond along the lines of the latest Doctor Who casting?

    @DaltonCraig007 I agree on TND. GE is a fun film but when I think about actually experiencing it I'm less enthused. TND would probably be the best Brosnan to be "placed into" but I actually think the other two Brosnans would be loads of fun as well.

    @JamesBondKenya QOS would be interesting, because I think of all the films the experience of living that one would be most different from watching it (mostly because Forster wouldn't be there to cut you off mid-motion or suddenly flip your world around like a mirror). There'd be times of, as you say, exhilarating action, but then with six locations, imagine all the time you'd spend on planes. ;)
    doubleoego wrote: »
    TB easily! Fiona Ville. That experience trumps everything.
    @doubleoego Still trying to make up my own mind about this question, but I'm definitely starting to lean in TB's direction. An assignment that's not too stressful or tense (somewhat to the film's detriment, but not yours being in it!), some R&R at a spa, sunshine, swimming, saving the world, and, as you say, Volpe. A nice vacation, all in all.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I've given some thought to this, and it can only be: TSWLM.

    Why? The reasons are simple & quite clear:

    1. I love gadgets
    2. I've always wanted to visit Cairo & walk among the pharaohs (as well as delve deeply into its treasures).
    3. Sardinia looks like fun too.
    4. Anya is delectable in that dress and shared bodily warmth is a pastime of mine
    5. Who wouldn't want to take that jump? Hope the chute works!
    6. controlling a Lotus underwater you say? Sign me up now!
    7. I'm a coward who doesn't like to get into brutal fistfights. Bond's are reasonably tame in this one (apart from being hurled across the cabin by Jaws)
    8. Nothing more honourable than keeping the British end up (saving the world is an added bonus)
    9. Roger Moore was my childhood hero
    10. Ego. Pure and simple. Nobody does it better.

    The only negative is my tryst with that babe in the Alps unforgivably has to be cut short (perhaps I could demand a slight script alteration. Surely England can wait, if only for a few minutes until I get off).

    Also, not having an opportunity for more than a taste of Fekkesh's dessert girl.

    Seconded. @Strog nice to see a fairly original thread round here too. Kudo's.
  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
    edited August 10 Posts: 16,120
    Strog wrote: »
    5. Who wouldn't want to take that jump? Hope the chute works!
    @bondjames Of all the stunts, that's my #2 to experience. (#1 would be driving the bike off the cliff in GE and catching up with the plane.)

    Thing with the ski chute jump is, I wonder where you'd (1) end up and (2) how much of a hike there would be to get back to civilization. ;)
    @Strog I never really thought about that and it's a good point.

    GE offers some great thrills as well as you mentioned, most notably the bungee jump (I've always wanted to try that jump from the Verzasca Dam and apparently one can do it now through trekking.ch for a fee).
  • Agent_99Agent_99 Enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    TLD. Jumping out of a plane, fairground rides, cello sledding, and Hercules piloting. Heck, let's undelete the flying carpet bit, too. The only downside I can see is having to sit through an entire opera in Vienna (sorry, opera fans).

    ...Plus, any point at which I got to stand in front of a mirror would be a bonus.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns "I HAD ANOTHER MONICA BELLUCCI DREAM,"
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    TB Domino and Volpe
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    TB Domino and Volpe

    It's worth taking a bullet in the ankle at the Junkanoo.

    For the tragedy, torture and violence involved I'd have to skip out on all the Craigs, Lazenby and Dalton eras.

    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe S.A.R.A.H.
    Posts: 8,347
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    TLD. Jumping out of a plane, fairground rides, cello sledding, and Hercules piloting. Heck, let's undelete the flying carpet bit, too. The only downside I can see is having to sit through an entire opera in Vienna (sorry, opera fans).

    ...Plus, any point at which I got to stand in front of a mirror would be a bonus.

    The problem with Dalton, is that I would have to be on edge all the time, to survive. He is my favourite Bond, head and shoulders above the rest, but I wouldn't want to be that Bond.

    I guess I would want to be Bond in TB, to see if Domino tastes as good as she looks.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 1,485
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    TLD. Jumping out of a plane, fairground rides, cello sledding, and Hercules piloting. Heck, let's undelete the flying carpet bit, too. The only downside I can see is having to sit through an entire opera in Vienna (sorry, opera fans).

    ...Plus, any point at which I got to stand in front of a mirror would be a bonus.

    The problem with Dalton, is that I would have to be on edge all the time, to survive. He is my favourite Bond, head and shoulders above the rest, but I wouldn't want to be that Bond.

    I guess I would want to be Bond in TB, to see if Domino tastes as good as she looks.


    Yeah, my most favourite Bond movies are also the ones I wouldn't want to experience (OHMSS, CR, QoS and Skyfall).
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belux
    edited August 11 Posts: 1,934
    Thunderball sounds tempting. Scubadiving, water sports, casino's, DB5, jetpack, likeable allies in Pinder and Felix, Domino and Fiona to seduce. Where do I sign?
  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
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    The 'rack' and 'centrifuge' are the only things which stopped me from selecting TB or MR earlier. Otherwise, they'd both be great. Like I said, I'm a coward and don't like pain.
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    Amorous intent seems to be the determining factor in many a choice! Who could have foreseen?

    @Agent_99 Cello sledding sounds...oddly enticing. Certainly more so than watching it. ;)

    And yes by all means feel free to factor in deleted scenes. That'd be lumped in with off-screen action, as far as I'm concerned.
    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.
    @Major_Boothroyd Interesting that no one has yet mentioned GF in this regard.
    The problem with Dalton, is that I would have to be on edge all the time, to survive. He is my favourite Bond, head and shoulders above the rest, but I wouldn't want to be that Bond.
    @MajorDSmythe This raises the quite natural question of which Bond's body would feel best to be in? Which is healthiest? I think you're right on Dalton. It'd be like having too many espressos. Early Craig would be in knots from the weightlifting (he clearly wouldn't take time to foam roll). He got shot in SF. Never be the same again. Certainly not later Moore. I would have to think early Moore or Connery.

    @GoldenGun TB definitely seems the most popular choice so far (for the good reasons you've outlined).
    bondjames wrote: »
    The 'rack' and 'centrifuge' are the only things which stopped me from selecting TB or MR earlier. Otherwise, they'd both be great. Like I said, I'm a coward and don't like pain.
    I've always been somewhat confused about exactly how painful the rack could be? I mean, apparently very. But on viewing it never intimidates. Looks like just a bit of a jiggle.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns "I HAD ANOTHER MONICA BELLUCCI DREAM,"
    edited August 11 Posts: 299
    TB Domino and Volpe

    It's worth taking a bullet in the ankle at the Junkanoo.

    For the tragedy, torture and violence involved I'd have to skip out on all the Craigs, Lazenby and Dalton eras.

    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.

    Two of my favourite Bond girls in one film anything else pales in comparison to them ;)
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya "Friends... I don't have any friends"
    edited August 11 Posts: 933
    From russia with love would be fun. Theres nothing too outrageous. CR is the worst unless you want ruined balls
  • bondjamesbondjames Some men are coming to kill us. We're going to kill them first.
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    From russia with love would be fun. Theres nothing too outrageous
    It's a serious ego trip for sure. To think some Russian babe wants only you to bring her in. Great stuff.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belux
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    MR is another good choice, what's not to like about a chateau, Venice, Rio, outer space, a gondola-hovercraft, a gadget-laden boat, the presidential suite with Emily Bolton and taking Lois Chiles around the world?
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    Thunderball. Do I really need to say why? I think I would switch sides for Volpe, and take Domino with me.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 Enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Strog wrote: »
    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.
    @Major_Boothroyd Interesting that no one has yet mentioned GF in this regard.

    Thought about it, largely due to my huge girlcrush on Honor Blackman, but there's no way I could get through all that golf in real time. (Sorry, golf fans.)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belux
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.
    @Major_Boothroyd Interesting that no one has yet mentioned GF in this regard.

    Thought about it, largely due to my huge girlcrush on Honor Blackman, but there's no way I could get through all that golf in real time. (Sorry, golf fans.)

    I would actually love that. Maybe I should reconsider ;)

    Then again, that Kentucky prison looks a bit boring.
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    So I'd go with an easy walk through adventure. Connery in TB or DAF, Moore in TSWLM or MR.
    @Major_Boothroyd Interesting that no one has yet mentioned GF in this regard.

    Thought about it, largely due to my huge girlcrush on Honor Blackman, but there's no way I could get through all that golf in real time. (Sorry, golf fans.)

    Would you be playing golf as yourself, or with the skills of 007?
  • Agent_99Agent_99 Enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    vzok wrote: »
    Would you be playing golf as yourself, or with the skills of 007?

    Going by @Strog's rules, I think everything gets done with Bond's abilities.

    Otherwise none of us would make it to the opening credits!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belux
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Would you be playing golf as yourself, or with the skills of 007?

    Going by @Strog's rules, I think everything gets done with Bond's abilities.

    Otherwise none of us would make it to the opening credits!

    We would in FRWL, LALD and TMWTGG ;)
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    Good Question! If I must pick just one then I think I'd stay with my favourite Bond movie OHMSS.
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