Connections between every actor's fourth Bond films? (SPECTRE spoilers)

Thought it might be interesting to see if we can find any connections and common themes between every Bond actor's fourth film - Thunderball, Moonraker, Die Another Day, Spectre.

-All four generally 'go bigger' than anything else in the actor's era

-Torture scene of sorts in all of them (TB on the rack, MR in the centrifuge machine, DAD in North Korea, SPECTRE head drill)

Maybe that's it? There are a couple of almosts:
-We almost get a 'Bond in a parade' connection but DAD lets us down there.
-Clinics in 3/4 of them, with Moonraker letting us down.

Comments

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    3 of them were their respective actor's highest grossing films (unadjusted for inflation).

    It remains to be seen if SP can do the same.
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    All are worse than their third.
  • Matt007 wrote: »
    All are worse than their third.

    I can't necessarily say DAD is worse than TWINE, but they are both pretty awful.

    All 4 are certainly disappointing....
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    Nah, DAD is definitely worse than TWINE.

    These films were all pretty big on effects and the like, and thus they had mass appeal which led to them having the highest gross out of each respective actor's Bond films. I doubt SPECTRE would beat Skyfall, though.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited November 2015 Posts: 29,633
    Matt007 wrote: »
    All are worse than their third.

    And their first, and their second.
    And by a long measure (exception being THUNDERBALL, that one is almost as good as it's predecessors).
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
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    Henchman?

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  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    I really don't think Moonraker is worse than TMWTGG, nor do I reckon Spectre (from what I know) is going to be worse than QoS.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 582
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    All are worse than their third.

    I can't necessarily say DAD is worse than TWINE, but they are both pretty awful.

    All 4 are certainly disappointing....

    Spectre is not disappointing - it's great. I guess it's all just a matter of perspective.

    All four have some part of the film set in the Americas

    TB - Bahamas & Miami
    MR - Brazil & USA
    DAD - Cuba
    SP - Mexico

    All four have part of the film set in London

    All have aircraft in their PTS if you deem the jetpack to be aircraft.

    All have helicopters in them

    All four feature watch gadgets

    TB - Geiger counter watch
    MR - Explosive in watch
    DAD - Watchlaser
    SP - Explosive in watch

    All four have aeroplanes in them

    Mod edit: 7(!) posts merged into 1.
  • tigers99 wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    All are worse than their third.

    I can't necessarily say DAD is worse than TWINE, but they are both pretty awful.

    All 4 are certainly disappointing....

    Spectre is not disappointing - it's great. I guess it's all just a matter of perspective.

    Obviously, it's all a matter of opinion. I was disappointed.

    And holy quintuple post, Batman

    @ForYourEyesOnly I used to feel that way too, but the more I watched them and thought about it, I found more redeeming qualities in DAD than TWINE.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @ForYourEyesOnly I used to feel that way too, but the more I watched them and thought about it, I found more redeeming qualities in DAD than TWINE.

    I'm in agreement. TWINE is worse than DAD imho. In many ways.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @ForYourEyesOnly I used to feel that way too, but the more I watched them and thought about it, I found more redeeming qualities in DAD than TWINE.

    I'm in agreement. TWINE is worse than DAD imho. In many ways.

    No, DAD is the worst Bond film ever.
  • tigers99 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @ForYourEyesOnly I used to feel that way too, but the more I watched them and thought about it, I found more redeeming qualities in DAD than TWINE.

    I'm in agreement. TWINE is worse than DAD imho. In many ways.

    No, DAD is the worst Bond film ever.

    Do you not know what imho means? Serious question.

    In case the answer is yes: In my humble OPINION
  • None of them are particularly good either.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 709
    OK thanks for the input but can we dispense with the opinions about which ones are good or bad? There are plenty of other threads for complaining. I was looking for specific common scenes or links, like the watch gadget answer above.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    I almost said they all have car chases but there was none in Moonraker.

    Aren't there boat rides in all four?
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    OK thanks for the input but can we dispense with the opinions about which ones are good or bad? There are plenty of other threads for complaining. I was looking for specific common scenes or links, like the watch gadget answer above.

    Trying to follow this rule, but I do find it interesting that three of them fill the bottom three slots in my rankings.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @tigers99,
    This is the second time I urge you to use the edit button and avoid multiple posts.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    First I feel that SF was TB and SP is YOLT, there are so many things speaking for that theory.

    But comparing the 4th movies I come up with this:

    TB, MR, DAD, SP
    all went bigger, bolder, better compared to their predecessors.

    TB certainly wasn't better than GF
    MR was probably not better than TSWLM but not by much (IMO)
    DAD was certainly better than TWINE not matter what you all say.
    SP puts SF to shame on every level.

    TB didn't try to copy GF
    MR copied TSWLM on almost every level
    DAD didn't try to copy TWINE
    SP didn't try to copy SF

    TB was more successful than GF
    MR wasn't more successful than TSWLM
    DAD was more successful than TWINE

    None of the four TB MR DAD or SP got higher ratings of critics or audience on RT than their predecessors (except DAD got higher critic ratings than TWINE)

    MR was a continuation of sorts to TSWLM
    SP is a continuation of sorts to SP

    All four actors were the smoothest and coolest and most self-confident in their fourth movie!


  • Posts: 582
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @tigers99,
    This is the second time I urge you to use the edit button and avoid multiple posts.

    Sorry.
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