Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 12,823
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 6,659
    Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Henry Cavill have the same favorite exercise, planking. ;)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 11,128
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 12,823
    @mtm you're looking for an argument that isn't going to happen. Why don't you let it go. You don't always need to have the last word.
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad. Posts like that aren't really helpful, but since you are the master of pot stirring I'll leave it at that, as you are a priori a contrarian.

    @Benny I agree with your post, makes sense. Of course I know I am speculating, but that's the gravy of this thread which makes it all the more delicious, in the end. Speculation all around.

    Thanks @JeremyBondon we might not agree on certain things, but at least we can have some fun, and be civil. Cheers.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 11,128
    Benny wrote: »
    @mtm you're looking for an argument that isn't going to happen. Why don't you let it go. You don't always need to have the last word.

    You've been incredibly unpleasant to and really offended me, and I have no idea why. All I did was to ask what you meant by your insult; I think that would have been civil.
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad. Posts like that aren't really helpful, but since you are the master of pot stirring I'll leave it at that, as you are a priori a contrarian.

    @Benny I agree with your post, makes sense. Of course I know I am speculating, but that's the gravy of this thread which makes it all the more delicious, in the end. Speculation all around.

    Thanks @JeremyBondon we might not agree on certain things, but at least we can have some fun, and be civil. Cheers.

    I'm not sure how Jeremy's post was civil in that he threw several insults out, but I'm happy to leave it.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 12,823
    Unpleasant? Offensive? If you're going to dish it out @mtm then you're going to have to take it too. Something that you appear to lack. But I'm happy you'll leave it. Thanks.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,154
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.

    Unintentionally you've just proven my point. I quite disliked Nomadland and I think it should 've never received the Oscars it got. Then again, Oscars aren't worth much these days. A lot of paid critics loved it however.

    @Benny Exactly! Cheers to you 🍻
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 11,128
    Benny wrote: »
    Unpleasant? Offensive? If you're going to dish it out @mtm then you're going to have to take it too. Something that you appear to lack.

    I haven't dished anything out: you've insulted my character several times, called me 'confused' etc. If you didn't intend to offend me by doing that then I'm not sure what your aim was. I haven't called you anything.
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.

    Unintentionally you've just proven my point. I quite disliked Nomadland and I think it should 've never received the Oscars it got. Then again, Oscars aren't worth much these days. A lot of paid critics loved it however.

    Well that's okay that you didn't like it, but it doesn't really prove your point. It is true to say that Leonardo isn't regarded all that well. It doesn't mean it is bad, just that it isn't 'supposed to be' all that great.
    And as it doesn't seem to be held as a big hit critically, I think it's possibly reasonable to say that Amazon are maybe more likely to not be interested in Turner than they are to be interested in him. That said, I don't think his being in an Amazon show, hit or not, will make much difference over Bond either way.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited May 2021 Posts: 754
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well. Very interesting timing. Perhaps one little hint could be that our beloved Mathis stars in it, as well.

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    As long as Aidan is on EON’s radar, which I don’t know why he wouldn’t be. It is ultimately up to them. I would be quite happy if he gets the nod, of course. Way, way more than any other actor that’s been floated on here (except Michael Fassbender, but we agree he can’t do it now, too late). I vehemently dislike Bezos and Amazon, but this could perhaps be an upside of the sale.

    @Jordo007 Aidan hasn’t aged out of Bond yet. He’ll turn 38 next month and he looks a handful of years younger than that. Pierce was 41 when he got was cast and Timothy was 40. I think people need to rethink this “aged out” description.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,154
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Unpleasant? Offensive? If you're going to dish it out @mtm then you're going to have to take it too. Something that you appear to lack.

    I haven't dished anything out: you've insulted my character several times, called me 'confused' etc. If you didn't intend to offend me by doing that then I'm not sure what your aim was. I haven't called you anything.
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.

    Unintentionally you've just proven my point. I quite disliked Nomadland and I think it should 've never received the Oscars it got. Then again, Oscars aren't worth much these days. A lot of paid critics loved it however.

    Well that's okay that you didn't like it, but it doesn't really prove your point. It is true to say that Leonardo isn't regarded all that well. It doesn't mean it is bad, just that it isn't 'supposed to be' all that great.
    And as it doesn't seem to be held as a big hit critically, I think it's possibly reasonable to say that Amazon are maybe more likely to not be interested in Turner than they are to be interested in him. That said, I don't think his being in an Amazon show, hit or not, will make much difference over Bond either way.

    It still proves my point in the way opinions are inherently subjective and that even a majority of opinions could be deemed wrong in the opinion of someone else. Also, 'not all that great' is quite different from 'really bad'. Turner gets relatively more praise than the show itself, the script if you will. Agree to disagree, yet again. Oh well.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited May 2021 Posts: 1,154
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Unpleasant? Offensive? If you're going to dish it out @mtm then you're going to have to take it too. Something that you appear to lack.

    I haven't dished anything out: you've insulted my character several times, called me 'confused' etc. If you didn't intend to offend me by doing that then I'm not sure what your aim was. I haven't called you anything.
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.

    Unintentionally you've just proven my point. I quite disliked Nomadland and I think it should 've never received the Oscars it got. Then again, Oscars aren't worth much these days. A lot of paid critics loved it however.

    Well that's okay that you didn't like it, but it doesn't really prove your point. It is true to say that Leonardo isn't regarded all that well. It doesn't mean it is bad, just that it isn't 'supposed to be' all that great.
    And as it doesn't seem to be held as a big hit critically, I think it's possibly reasonable to say that Amazon are maybe more likely to not be interested in Turner than they are to be interested in him. That said, I don't think his being in an Amazon show, hit or not, will make much difference over Bond either way.

    It still proves my point in the way opinions are inherently subjective and that even a majority of opinions could be deemed wrong in the opinion of someone else. Also, 'not all that great' is quite different from 'really bad'. Turner gets relatively more praise than the show itself, the script if you will.

    @Thunderfinger Wholeheartedly agree with your post
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2021 Posts: 11,128
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well. Very interesting timing. Perhaps one little hint could be that our beloved Mathis stars in it, as well.

    original.gif

    As long as Aidan is on EON’s radar, which I don’t know why he wouldn’t be. It is ultimately up to them. I would be quite happy if he gets the nod, of course. Way, way more than any other actor that’s been floated on here (except Michael Fassbender, but we agree he can’t do it now, too late). I vehemently dislike Bezos and Amazon, but this could perhaps be an upside of the sale.

    @Jordo007 Aidan hasn’t aged out of Bond yet. He’ll turn 38 next month and he looks a handful of years younger than that. Pierce was 41 when he got was cast and Timothy was 40. I think people need to rethink this “aged out” description.


    Yes, I would be amazed if he didn't get an interview or test - if he wants it of course :D

    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Unpleasant? Offensive? If you're going to dish it out @mtm then you're going to have to take it too. Something that you appear to lack.

    I haven't dished anything out: you've insulted my character several times, called me 'confused' etc. If you didn't intend to offend me by doing that then I'm not sure what your aim was. I haven't called you anything.
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I reckon you all have heard/ read about Amazon having acquired MGM. Funny little detail: Amazon has just released 'Leonardo' starring future Bond potential Aidan Turner. Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this could turn out very well for mr. Turner. Perhaps Amazon sees a lot of potential in him as well.

    I think that's a bit of a reach. A man being hired by a company doesn't mean they want to hire him for everything.
    Benny wrote: »
    Isn't that show supposed to be really bad?

    Who says so? Idiotic reviewers through rottentomatoes? Don't make me laugh. The show is pretty good actually. You obviously haven't seen it. In fact, perhaps better to comment after have watched something yourself, rather than projecting what others think.

    Reminds me of the days of the CR boycott. So called Bond fans screaming for Craig to be let go. Boycott the movie, as he was terribly miscast. All before anyone had seen it.
    And we all know how that turned out. ;)
    I haven't seen Leonardo, but I'll pass judgement after I've seen it.

    Goon was just asking, he didn't pass any judgement. When you google it doesn't exactly have stellar reviews, and the people who have written the reviews have seen it. It's not really anything like the CR boycott.

    If you take the time to read my post, you'll notice I didn't quote @ImpertinentGoon rather @JeremyBondon
    The CR boycott was similar in the way people past judgement without seeing the finished product. Bit like you post @mtm ;)

    If you'd taken the time to read Jeremy's post in context, you'd have noticed he was describing Goon's statement- incorrectly. By comparing his description of Goon to the CR boycott you were, perhaps inadvertently, also criticising Goon unfairly. ;)
    I'm not sure what you mean about me passing judgement without seeing the finished product? What does that refer to?

    Of course, MTM at it again. The usual. The way 'Goon' constructed his post wasn't really constructive it all, rather it insinuated 'Leonardo' is bad because some reviewers thought it was so-so or bad.

    That is generally what reviews are for. I've heard Nomadland is great and I plan to watch it, is that somehow awful of me to think that's generally regarded as true?
    Benny wrote: »
    I think you’re a little confused ‘old man’
    First time for everything. ;) Let’s leave it at that. No need to take it further.

    So you can't even back that up then? That was a really unnecessary thing to say to me.

    Unintentionally you've just proven my point. I quite disliked Nomadland and I think it should 've never received the Oscars it got. Then again, Oscars aren't worth much these days. A lot of paid critics loved it however.

    Well that's okay that you didn't like it, but it doesn't really prove your point. It is true to say that Leonardo isn't regarded all that well. It doesn't mean it is bad, just that it isn't 'supposed to be' all that great.
    And as it doesn't seem to be held as a big hit critically, I think it's possibly reasonable to say that Amazon are maybe more likely to not be interested in Turner than they are to be interested in him. That said, I don't think his being in an Amazon show, hit or not, will make much difference over Bond either way.

    It still proves my point in the way opinions are inherently subjective and that even a majority of opinions could be deemed wrong in the opinion of someone else.

    No-one really said otherwise, though. But generally we do tend to talk in terms of 'Spectre is generally regarded as one of the weaker Bond films' etc. even if some people really like that film. It's just how people talk about this stuff, it's nothing to take personally.
    (I don't dislike Spectre as much as some people do but I accept that it's not seen as one of the good ones)
    Also, 'not all that great' is quite different from 'really bad'.

    Well, two star reviews from a couple of papers that I saw, which is verging on bad. I was just trying to phrase it in a non-inflammatory way.
    Turner gets relatively more praise than the show itself, the script if you will.

    Well that's fair enough. So you do agree that the script/story isn't praised highly, then.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    @JeremyBondon I don’t see a post on this page by Thunderfinger. You might’ve meant me, in which case, thank you. People sometimes get me and Mr. Finger mixed up. Perhaps it’s time to change my username.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    @JeremyBondon I don’t see a post on this page by Thunderfinger. You might’ve meant me, in which case, thank you. People sometimes get me and Mr. Finger mixed up. Perhaps it’s time to change my username.

    'Fingerball'?
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    mtm wrote: »
    @JeremyBondon I don’t see a post on this page by Thunderfinger. You might’ve meant me, in which case, thank you. People sometimes get me and Mr. Finger mixed up. Perhaps it’s time to change my username.

    'Fingerball'?

    Sounds like a spy-themed porn movie. 😅
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Though I thought the trailer was bad, Leonardo has a respectable 7.1 at IMDb, with an interesting spread of reviewers giving it either very high marks or very low marks, with few in the middle. I'd guess that it's sort of shlocky and lowbrow, but with enough good people in the cast to make it watchable. If that's the case, I can't really look down on it for veering far from the facts considering I watched the ludicrous but entertaining Da Vinci's Demons (which actually sits at 8.0 in IMDb's ratings).

    Whatever, I'm sure it won't affect Aidan Turner's chances one way or another.

    I watched the short-lived Marvel show Helstrom recently. I liked Tom Austen much more than I thought I would, but wow I felt the show took a nosedive in the last few episodes.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    @Thunderball truthfully mate didn't realise he was only 37 going on 38 haha. He's a great age in that case.
    The only thing I will say is I can picture them going younger for the next version of Bond, but I'd be pleased if Eon went for Turner. He at least deserves to be on the list
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    While I don't think Aidan Turner would have been considered by the past considering Eon's production pace (with a movie every four years on average, Turner would have been quickly too old), Amazon could impose a higher frequency. I don't know if it's good or bad if it could impact the quality of the films, but, with such a pace, Turner has all his chances. Still, I think a younger actor will be chosen.
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    Oliver Jackson-Cohen 34 London Born.

    Unsure if he has been mentioned, I started watching The Haunting of Bly Manor on NETFLIX, Oliver shows a subtle underlining menace with the character he plays. Later I realised I had also seen him in the recent Invisible Man reworking which was a good film.
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    Oliver Jackson-Cohen 34 London Born.

    Unsure if he has been mentioned, I started watching The Haunting of Bly Manor on NETFLIX, Oliver shows a subtle underlining menace with the character he plays. Later I realised I had also seen him in the recent Invisible Man reworking which was a good film.

    He sure has the right face.
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    Ok I have to admit I have not (yet) read all 800 pages of this thread. I’m new here this is my first post! So I apologize if this has been suggested....but I’ve always thought that Jon Hamm (Mad Men) would be a great Bond, IF and I stress IF, he could do a convincing British accent!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    kamal_khan wrote: »
    Ok I have to admit I have not (yet) read all 800 pages of this thread. I’m new here this is my first post! So I apologize if this has been suggested....but I’ve always thought that Jon Hamm (Mad Men) would be a great Bond, IF and I stress IF, he could do a convincing British accent!

    More like Felix, in the Jack Lord mold.
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    kamal_khan wrote: »
    Ok I have to admit I have not (yet) read all 800 pages of this thread. I’m new here this is my first post! So I apologize if this has been suggested....but I’ve always thought that Jon Hamm (Mad Men) would be a great Bond, IF and I stress IF, he could do a convincing British accent!

    Welcome to the forums, @kamal_khan.
    I always liked Jon Hamm. He has a classic, classic look and style one doesn't see too often these days. He often looked quite Bondian on MAD MEN. Bold choice!
    Now that he's a bit older, I think he'd make a great Mike Hammer or a Philip Marlowe.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    There's a season that concludes with Don Draper watching "You Only Live Twice", with the theme song also playing during the credits.
    "Mad Men" creator and showrunner Matthew Weiner was offered at some point after Spectre to submit a treatment for Bond, but, obviously, it went nowhere.
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    There's a season that concludes with Don Draper watching "You Only Live Twice", with the theme song also playing during the credits.
    "Mad Men" creator and showrunner Matthew Weiner was offered at some point after Spectre to submit a treatment for Bond, but, obviously, it went nowhere.

    It was season 5 - peak Mad Men in my view! If Hamm could pull off an English accent, he'd be the only American actor I'd cast as Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    kamal_khan wrote: »
    Ok I have to admit I have not (yet) read all 800 pages of this thread. I’m new here this is my first post! So I apologize if this has been suggested....but I’ve always thought that Jon Hamm (Mad Men) would be a great Bond, IF and I stress IF, he could do a convincing British accent!

    Welcome to the forums, @kamal_khan.
    I always liked Jon Hamm. He has a classic, classic look and style one doesn't see too often these days. He often looked quite Bondian on MAD MEN. Bold choice!
    Now that he's a bit older, I think he'd make a great Mike Hammer or a Philip Marlowe.

    That’s a really fun idea, I like that.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    No offence to Regé-Jean Page but he'd be a backwards step from Craig.
    I've not seen him in much admittedly (par only half an episode of Bridgeton) but I had to turn it off, too much pouting and posing for me, felt like a wooden version of Brosnan. I get why my Mrs enjoys the show and his character but he wouldn't be right for Bond in my opinion. He's not a bad actor by any means and I'm sure he'll have a successful career, but his performance came across as really forced to me

    I just finished watching Bridgerton and I don't disagree. It's a very outre show. There is a lot of preening and posing. I think Page is most guilty of this in the first episode. However, once you get over that first episode hump, I have to confess that I secretly really enjoyed this show and Page is - undeniably - it's main attraction. It's v soap-y, but rather entertaining. If he becomes Bond, he needs a director to tell him to tone down the corniness. it suits a show like Bridgerton but perhaps not Bond.

    Page really comes into his own by the end. I'll admit that he does pose a little too much. However, that is the character he's playing. Personally, I did not mind it. Basically, this is his James Bond audition. He's playing the mysterious, byronic hero - in the same mould as Heathcliff or Mr Rochester. Interestingly, two roles that Timothy Dalton played before becoming 007. Page has traces of Dalton in his performance. There is a meanness to him, and he's also perfect as the classical romantic hero.

    He's terrific in the fight sequences (which there are surprisingly many), fantastic with women, and seriously gorgeous. Despite his ethnicity, he would actually be more of a conventional pick than Craig. I think the Brosnan comparison offered by @Jordo007 is perhaps apt - though, as I mentioned, I think Page would model himself off Dalton. Nevertheless, if they are going to be radical and appoint a black actor to play James Bond, then someone like Page would be perfect, as it's hard to argue that he isn't ideally suited.

    He's quickly risen to being my preferred choice for the role.....

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Suave spy? Sure. Bond? No.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    @Pierce2Daniel you make some really good points as always mate.
    I'm not sold on him as Bond if I'm honest, this is no disrespect to him as a person or actor, but he doesn't look mean enough to play Bond
    Personally I don't think Bond should have any form of facial hair other than 5 O'clock shadow (unless the story warrants it) and Page is one of many actors suggested, who doesn't look particularly manly without facial hair

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    For the record, I don't when this picture of Page was from I googled him clean shave and this picture came up. Of course like all the actors, we'll only know how they'll be as Bond until they're cast but if you compare him with Craig, Dalton or Connery, he's not as manly without a beard and for me that makes him unsuitable for the role
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    To be fair, Page is not the only actor of his generation who does not look very manly without facial hair. He's no worse than Brosnan in that regard.
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