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  • edited July 2014 Posts: 1,984
    And why is keeping Glen for five films the biggest mistake Albert ever made?

    I'll add some facts to answer to whose who think it's the biggest mistake.

    I already did some reminder about the 80s being the second box office reign of Bond, worldwide.. Now let's focus on the UK box office for instance :

    FYEO #1 of 1981 (just ahead of Superman II)

    OP #2 of 1983 ( 8 M£, #1 was Jedi with 12 M£). NSNA #3 with 7 M£. "Bond" did more than StarWars that year in the end :)

    AVATK #2 of 1985 (8M£, Back to the Future #1 with 12M£)

    TLD #1 of 1987 (far above the rest)

    LTK #7 of 1989.

    So they kept him as long he kept making top box office movies. And he could make them every two years !

    Now you may find box office should not be taken into account when making movies, but then please don't use "SF did a billion, they can't be wrong", in the next sentence :)

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I wonder why for so many people the sine qua non criteria to be eligible to direct a Bond movie is to have directed action movies. I mean, seriously? How about crime fiction, war movies, historical movies? Movies which may not be proper or strictly speaking action movies, but do have enough action in them to give an idea of what the director can do.

    We're not saying that's all it takes, but action is a big part of the Bond package, so an experience with some action directing wouldn't go amiss in a prospective Bond director. We all got on the topic of action and action directors because @TheWiz posted a list he found of compiled directors who have been active in that genre, that's all.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2014 Posts: 2,999
    Steven Begg visual effects supervisor of CR and Skyfall returns for Bond 24.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003445/
    Interview with him, talking about another movie and some talk about whylen Derk Meddings
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1axUB4FahE

    Michael Lerman first assistant director of QOS and Skyfall returns too.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0503569/
    Interview with him around time of QOS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNv2OVWmPjg
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
    Posts: 11,057
    That's good news. Thanks!
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK BeyondJamesBond.kinja.com
    edited July 2014 Posts: 5,746
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Steven Begg visual effects supervisor of CR and Skyfall returns for Bond 24.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003445/
    Interview with him, talking about another movie and some talk about whylen Derk Meddings
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1axUB4FahE

    Michael Lerman first assistant director of QOS and Skyfall returns too.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0503569/
    Interview with him around time of QOS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNv2OVWmPjg

    Thank you! The OP has been updated. Funny how literally all of July (and the last news of June) have all been crew, and all returning crew at that. Production is gearing up!
  • Posts: 10,740
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Steven Begg visual effects supervisor of CR and Skyfall returns for Bond 24.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003445/
    Interview with him, talking about another movie and some talk about whylen Derk Meddings
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1axUB4FahE

    Michael Lerman first assistant director of QOS and Skyfall returns too.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0503569/
    Interview with him around time of QOS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNv2OVWmPjg

    Thank you! The OP has been updated. Funny how literally all of July (and the last news of June) have all been crew, and all returning crew at that. Production is gearing up!

    Yep the pieces of the puzzle are all coming together now! Hopefully through August perhaps we will get a few rumours on cast and locations will come to light? Which gives us articles to debate! :-bd
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 3,859
    Great news. The crew is returning.
  • Posts: 75
    These bits of news just are not enough. Just think if John Logan had done is job properly in the 2 years he had available, we'd be getting location and title rumours now. Let's hope the production of Bond 25 is better managed and we get it while Craig is still young enough not to collect super.
  • Posts: 11,947
    I'm excited but I keep thinking about how, if they hadn't waited for Mendes, we'd be getting trailers and previews now :( I think he did a good job with Skyfall but not sure he was worth waiting another year for.
  • edited July 2014 Posts: 2,081
    I keep seeing that a lot, but they didn't exactly wait for Mendes, did they? He initially said no because he wanted - understandably - to do different kind of work after Skyfall. Did I imagine seeing bits here about some other directors having been approached, and them saying no? So time went on... and eventually enough time had passed that when Mendes was asked again he said yes. That's how I understood it anyway. Surely they didn't just sit around and wait for this particular director, but didn't manage to get anyone else suitable sooner, either, right? Wasn't the initial plan to get the new film out this year? (Or was it _only_ wishful thinking here?)
  • Posts: 75
    I believe Mendes has a steady hand. He is much more of a Gilbert/Hamilton type, so to me Skyfall felt more like a true Bond film. So he was worth waiting for IMO. But Skyfall worked because of him, not Logan - or god help us Purvis and Wade.

    IMO Logan should have written a good script and the Cubby Family should have managed things better. Mendes is what salvaged Skfall and he is what will salvage Bond 24... if it can be salvaged.
  • Posts: 11,947
    There were other directors rumoured but I don't think anyone else was actually offered. They always wanted Mendes and I think what happened was that he eventually agreed to return after all if he had more time.
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    StoneShi wrote: »
    Mendes is what salvaged Skfall and he is what will salvage Bond 24... if it can be salvaged.

    What makes you think Bond 24 needs to be salvaged at all?
  • Posts: 75
    StoneShi wrote: »
    Mendes is what salvaged Skfall and he is what will salvage Bond 24... if it can be salvaged.

    What makes you think Bond 24 needs to be salvaged at all?

    The same thing that makes Cubby Broccoli Family think it needs to be salvaged... so much that they would push back the production of a big multi-million movie, at great cost I'm sure, several month. I run a Project Management Consultancy (Oravida Shanghai) and let's say if one of my projects fell behind that badly the manager would be sacked. So I won't be hiring making calls to Broccoli or Wilson after this mess up.
  • edited July 2014 Posts: 4,320
    StoneShi wrote: »
    The same thing that makes Cubby Broccoli Family think it needs to be salvaged... so much that they would push back the production of a big multi-million movie, at great cost I'm sure, several month. I run a Project Management Consultancy (Oravida Shanghai) and let's say if one of my projects fell behind that badly the manager would be sacked. So I won't be hiring making calls to Broccoli or Wilson after this mess up.

    It was decided during pre-production that filming would start in December instead of November (if the rumors are true at all). Something like this isn't a big deal in film industry. They will still have more time to film Bond 24 and do the post-production than they did in the case of Casino Royale (which started filming in February!) and Quantum of Solcace (which started filming in January). Pre-production is all about making sure production will run smoothly. All they did was they back filming a little without changing the release date. No biggie.
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    As I don't know if there's a thread about who we want to direct future Bond movies I'll ask here- What about Luc Besson ? Would you like to see him as Bond director ?
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    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK BeyondJamesBond.kinja.com
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    dragonsky wrote: »
    As I don't know if there's a thread about who we want to direct future Bond movies I'll ask here- What about Luc Besson ? Would you like to see him as Bond director ?

    Here's the proper thread.
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1468/what-directors-would-you-like-to-see-helm-a-bond-film-or-more#latest
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
    Posts: 28,232
    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    Which could give even more support to rumors that Bond 24 will partly take place in Scandinavia and the surrounding areas. Maybe even most of the film with take place there?
  • Posts: 10,167
    Let's hope so! Would be cool.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 3,218
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    If I as I hope? Quantum should return? I wonder if we may return to a new age Russian old style cold war involvement for Bond 24? Kind of thought about it as I watched a little bit of Octopussy yesterday!

    This. The world events that happen as the script is written (last time around it was Assange) tend to find their way into the scripts, so we could see a villain, dare I say, Putinesque?
  • Posts: 805
    StoneShi wrote: »
    StoneShi wrote: »
    Mendes is what salvaged Skfall and he is what will salvage Bond 24... if it can be salvaged.

    What makes you think Bond 24 needs to be salvaged at all?

    The same thing that makes Cubby Broccoli Family think it needs to be salvaged... so much that they would push back the production of a big multi-million movie, at great cost I'm sure, several month. I run a Project Management Consultancy (Oravida Shanghai) and let's say if one of my projects fell behind that badly the manager would be sacked. So I won't be hiring making calls to Broccoli or Wilson after this mess up.

    To be frank, you are talking utter nonsense - and I suspect a fair number on this forum think the same of your views on this matter. Film production schedules move back all the time often for script re-writes or sometimes casting issues, or finance reasons. A two months shift is notable but nothing extreme in the film world - as I say it happens all the time, for example a top rated tv show I've been writing on just had to shift back 2 weeks for casting and location reasons - and on a tv show 2 weeks is quite a bit of time, but everyone is professional and use to such things and deal with it - just as the team on Bond 24 are naturally dealing with their new schedule, which still keeps Bond 24 on target for its release date.

    And BTW, Broccoli and Wilson own the cinematic Bond (with MGM - partners etc.), they are not hired gun producers as you seem to suggest - they run the show and they always will keep the rights within the family. Period.

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
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    Exactly. Thanks again, ColonelSun. Always good to hear your thoughts, which - besides being interesting and having relevant experience - are usually a sane voice of reason.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    Yep. It was the guy who directed the movie headhunters and interestingly enough, the leading lady in that film has screen tested for Bond 24.
  • Posts: 6,601
    As far as I remember it, they approached several directors (in Cannes etc) but apparantly they were - maybe scared - to follow such a success, who knows? Then Mendes came back into the picture. So no, they were not sitting around waiting. Sam at least will be up against himself now. Of course, the delay is still a shame.
  • Posts: 2,688
    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    It was Morten Tyldrum, if memory serves me correct.

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,031
    bondsum wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    It was Morten Tyldrum, if memory serves me correct.

    I'm sure it was Nicolas Winding Refn whom they had talked to.
  • Posts: 2,491
    There were a number of directors that the producers had spoken to before Mendes came back into the fold. Amongst those directors where the likes of Ang Lee, Nicholas Winding Refn, David Yates, Christopher Nolan and a few others (it's not known how serious any of these names actually where). Morten Tyldrum came forward and revealed that he had been asked to read the script/treatment for Bond 24 but nothing came of it.

    My guess is that Tyldrum was one of the chosen few to look over the script to see if the prospect interested him. Considering is track-record and the film he is currently working on it was likely that he was EON's favourite.
  • Posts: 11,947
    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    Which could give even more support to rumors that Bond 24 will partly take place in Scandinavia and the surrounding areas. Maybe even most of the film with take place there?

    I'd love to, but not sure if it is realistic.
  • Posts: 2,688
    MrBond wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    No. That's a crazy suggestion.

    I read a few weeks back that a Scando director had basically been offered the job and then Mendes came back on the scene. Can't remember who it was, but he basically said that he been about to direct the next one and then they ditched him.

    It was Morten Tyldrum, if memory serves me correct.

    I'm sure it was Nicolas Winding Refn whom they had talked to.

    Yes, Nicolas Winding Refn was also rumoured to be a contender. However, Morten Tyldrum had been in talks with the producers according to various sources, who asked him to read a script (presumably a first draft of Bond 24) but with Sam Mendes now in charge of Bond 24 they are now interested in Tyldum’s availability for Bond 25 “in a couple of year’s time”. Of course, anything could change for Bond 25.

    denofgeek.com/movies/james-bond/25807/headhunters-director-on-the-james-bond-shortlist
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