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  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited September 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Maybe it's a good thing he is taking some roles before bond 25 then, like Logan lucky and now a detective drama might brush up his acting skills though.
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    I haven't seen lucky Logan but in the trailers he seemed pretty bad - lots of ham with a large side portion of grating cheese
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Can we please stop compare bond with mi/ROTLA, the only mi film that came close to bond was RN and most of mi scenes have nothing new to offer but ripping other films off, even plot seems very predictable to me.

    Not sure if you caught the irony of your comment.

  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited September 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Watch the movie Logan lucky has nothing new but more of a story telling and character driven, he also did Kings with Halle Berry and now a detective drama. My hopes are a bit high for bond 25 than SP.
  • ThunderballsThunderballs Brighton, UK
    Posts: 34
    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ve just woken up to read @peter’s comments. I’m extremely sad to see you go, but not surprised in the least. It seems to me that some posters here have been given a free reign and an impunity to trash other members thoughts and insights, whilst continually posting inane comments, because it appears to generate discussion, when the direct opposite appears to be the case, sinking the entire topic into a quagmire of juvenile posturing. Now we’re in that position again where we’re losing a valuable, mature and trusted member because things have been allowed to escalate without little or no redress. It’s painfully obvious to me who the culprit(s) are. Surely it’s time to clip a few wings again and restore order to this bear-pit of a discussion thread?

    This.

    I, too, am sorry to see @peter go. I hope he returns soon.

  • Posts: 1,452
    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ve just woken up to read @peter’s comments. I’m extremely sad to see you go, but not surprised in the least. It seems to me that some posters here have been given a free reign and an impunity to trash other members thoughts and insights, whilst continually posting inane comments, because it appears to generate discussion, when the direct opposite appears to be the case, sinking the entire topic into a quagmire of juvenile posturing. Now we’re in that position again where we’re losing a valuable, mature and trusted member because things have been allowed to escalate without little or no redress. It’s painfully obvious to me who the culprit(s) are. Surely it’s time to clip a few wings again and restore order to this bear-pit of a discussion thread?

    This.

    I, too, am sorry to see @peter go. I hope he returns soon.

    Sane voices are too frequently and predictably savaged on this particular forum, and usually by the same 2 or 3 members who seem to resent anyone who might have a deeper understanding of the filmmaking process (after all we are discussing Bond films on this site) and, therefore, a reasonable grasp of what might really be going on re: Eon and Bond. It's a shame because there are many members here who are open minded, articulate, have interesting opinions to share and discuss, and who are respectful to others, unfortunately they are all too often ignored or belittled -- or their words/posts are twisted out of shape.

    Before I sign off, I'll say this; Bond 25 is aiming to keep it's release dates. Craig is committed. They are zeroing in on mostly fresh up-and-coming directors - and, yes, before a certain member chimes in, I know this is nothing new, but I will confirm it is what is going on. And I personally think Craig is the best thing to happen to the Bond franchise since Connery. He's made Bond his own and given the character a depth and inner life (internal conflict, which is very Fleming) which no other actor managed to do before. He's the best Bond since Connery. Just saying.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Getafix wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    That American Animals whatsit is getting ALOT of positive buzz, whereas White Boy Rick definitely isn't. Don't know how that effects things.
    This Layton guy came out of nowhere. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a serious possibility. He's got writing skills too, and I don't think Demange does.

    I think they both came out of nowhere, right?

    Hollywood seems to have fallen in love with the idea of giving lesser known directors with strong debut films the keys to their juggernauts. Just look at Jurassic world.
    True. I'm open to it.

    May be there's something to be said for handing someone young and hungry the reins

    On one side you have Colin Trevorrow, on the other you have Josh Trank. It can go both ways.

    of course it could badly. buy when was the last time someone under 50 directed a Bond film? Forster?

    Mendes.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 3,333
    Once again, thank you @ColonelSun for your additional thoughts on the matter. It’s always been an absolute pleasure reading both your and @peter’s views. I guess from now on we only have @RC7 and @Univex (whom I’m also very fond of) to add some class and levity to the proceedings. No disrespect to the other worthy contributors here that I haven’t mentioned, nor the MODs, as your input goes without saying. I’m just highlighting two other valuable members that I find extremely engaging.
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    I’d love to chime in far more regularly on this particular forum but there are 2 members here who just hijack the conversation and spam the board. It’s very frustrating.
  • I'm increasingly ambivalent about B25 - the fact (if indeed it is a fact) that Craig has signed on for a new shoot starting November is worrying, though maybe it's a small part or a quick project.

    The fact (ibid) that pre-production including set-building is continuing is on the one hand encouraging, since it suggests that there's a fairly firm script in place. But no director still? Surely whoever gets hired will want some input into things, which might me undoing the pre-production work.

    Good lord I'm glad I don't own shares in these productions . . . I'd be losing sleep.
  • Posts: 1,548
    Daniel Craig to me is the Bond actor to show the most range outside Bond. Tim Dalton is great but I wish he'd made more films. PS Logan Lucky ace.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 17,241
    Just to throw in one more comment about why I agree with @Mendes4Lyfe regarding Craig:

    As @Mendes4Lyfe I liked Craig in CR as it was noticeably different, and QoS as it picks up where CR left. But there’s no hiding that his character have always been "in a bad way" – which of course suits Craig. But when they try to take a slightly lighter approach with SP, he just doesn’t sell Bond at all to me.

    I don’t agree with @Shardlake that Craig’s acting is too subtle to pick up for some. I’m fully aware of his nuanced acting, and I would never outright criticize him as an actor, he just hasn’t sold his performances as Bond to me, as previous actors have before him. Brosnan might be a lesser actor, but his charming portrayal makes me revisit his films far more often than Craig’s.

    That’s not to say I don’t in any way look forward to Bond 25. If they indeed go for a lesser-known director, that’s one thing I really look forward to seeing, because it will be an element of uncertainty - what will he/she bring to the table, how will he/she take on action pieces, character building scenes, etc.? I think a younger director – hungry for taking on a bigger franchise, can be refreshing. There are plenty of examples of up-and-coming directors delivering "raw", intriguing films, and it’s that I hope EON will tap into.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ve just woken up to read @peter’s comments. I’m extremely sad to see you go, but not surprised in the least. It seems to me that some posters here have been given a free reign and an impunity to trash other members thoughts and insights, whilst continually posting inane comments, because it appears to generate discussion, when the direct opposite appears to be the case, sinking the entire topic into a quagmire of juvenile posturing. Now we’re in that position again where we’re losing a valuable, mature and trusted member because things have been allowed to escalate without little or no redress. It’s painfully obvious to me who the culprit(s) are. Surely it’s time to clip a few wings again and restore order to this bear-pit of a discussion thread?

    This.

    I, too, am sorry to see @peter go. I hope he returns soon.

    Sane voices are too frequently and predictably savaged on this particular forum, and usually by the same 2 or 3 members who seem to resent anyone who might have a deeper understanding of the filmmaking process (after all we are discussing Bond films on this site) and, therefore, a reasonable grasp of what might really be going on re: Eon and Bond. It's a shame because there are many members here who are open minded, articulate, have interesting opinions to share and discuss, and who are respectful to others, unfortunately they are all too often ignored or belittled -- or their words/posts are twisted out of shape.

    Before I sign off, I'll say this; Bond 25 is aiming to keep it's release dates. Craig is committed. They are zeroing in on mostly fresh up-and-coming directors - and, yes, before a certain member chimes in, I know this is nothing new, but I will confirm it is what is going on. And I personally think Craig is the best thing to happen to the Bond franchise since Connery. He's made Bond his own and given the character a depth and inner life (internal conflict, which is very Fleming) which no other actor managed to do before. He's the best Bond since Connery. Just saying.

    A reassuring voice as always.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Even though this sort of film isn't my normal cup of tea, I may check it out on account of him.

    What's interesting about Demange is that they were talking with him way back, and he was considered a front runner. Yet they seemed to prioritize Villeneuve and then Boyle. Now Boyle is out, and he is a front runner again, but once more they seem to be considering other directors. I wonder if it might slip through his hands once again, and if so there must be something about him which makes them hesitant - experience most likely.
  • Posts: 4,023
    In light of the tremendous success of the last 3 M:I films which are in equal measure well-made films as well as very rewatchable and entertaining, what would you say were the last 3 Bond films (that’s 3 in a row) that could compare in terms of excitement and rewatchability?

    I’d probably have to go back to TLD-LTK-GE. All 3 are well-made with a great story and very entertaining and rewatchable. Even though admittedly LTK is the weaker of those 3 and doesn’t crack my top 10 (the other 2 do). And even though at times LTK lacks that Bond flavor and feels a bit too “American action” it still packs a punch in the action department and has an engaging story and is rewatchable. Plus it beautifully ended the Cubby era with that lovely closing ballad by Patti LaBelle. That song always gets me.

    Unfortunately since then we haven’t had a three-peat like this. TND is fun and rewatchable but TWINE unfortunately is not (despite having a stronger story). CR and SF are sabotaged by QOS. And then there’s SP :(

    Bond needs to find its mojo the way M:I has done.

    A lot of the upswing in MI has been the focus upon high octane stunts and action, largely performed by Cruise. I don't think any other series will be able to (or should try to) match this.

    I don't think Bond should ever be all out action anyway. So they need to concentrate on what makes Bond a different and unique series, and do that to the absolute best.
  • Posts: 6,727
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ve just woken up to read @peter’s comments. I’m extremely sad to see you go, but not surprised in the least. It seems to me that some posters here have been given a free reign and an impunity to trash other members thoughts and insights, whilst continually posting inane comments, because it appears to generate discussion, when the direct opposite appears to be the case, sinking the entire topic into a quagmire of juvenile posturing. Now we’re in that position again where we’re losing a valuable, mature and trusted member because things have been allowed to escalate without little or no redress. It’s painfully obvious to me who the culprit(s) are. Surely it’s time to clip a few wings again and restore order to this bear-pit of a discussion thread?

    This.

    I, too, am sorry to see @peter go. I hope he returns soon.

    Sane voices are too frequently and predictably savaged on this particular forum, and usually by the same 2 or 3 members who seem to resent anyone who might have a deeper understanding of the filmmaking process (after all we are discussing Bond films on this site) and, therefore, a reasonable grasp of what might really be going on re: Eon and Bond. It's a shame because there are many members here who are open minded, articulate, have interesting opinions to share and discuss, and who are respectful to others, unfortunately they are all too often ignored or belittled -- or their words/posts are twisted out of shape.

    Before I sign off, I'll say this; Bond 25 is aiming to keep it's release dates. Craig is committed. They are zeroing in on mostly fresh up-and-coming directors - and, yes, before a certain member chimes in, I know this is nothing new, but I will confirm it is what is going on. And I personally think Craig is the best thing to happen to the Bond franchise since Connery. He's made Bond his own and given the character a depth and inner life (internal conflict, which is very Fleming) which no other actor managed to do before. He's the best Bond since Connery. Just saying.

    The voice of sanity!
    Understand fully why Peter has left. I dip into this to get some news on Bond 25, and am delighted to hear it's still going to happen and that Craig is to star! I tend now to flip through and avoid reading certain posters who are just churning out same junk to get some proper info on the next James Bond movie which is what this thread is supposed to be about??
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Just to throw in one more comment about why I agree with @Mendes4Lyfe regarding Craig:

    As @Mendes4Lyfe I liked Craig in CR as it was noticeably different, and QoS as it picks up where CR left. But there’s no hiding that his character have always been "in a bad way" – which of course suits Craig. But when they try to take a slightly lighter approach with SP, he just doesn’t sell Bond at all to me.

    See for me, I think Craig can do light easily and exceptionally well. Look at his performance in Layer Cake or even in CR for the most part. Really pay attention to his performance in CR and you'll see he plays it somewhat light for the majority of the film but the lightness is measured and kept in check, avoiding spilling over into obnoxiousness as was the case for SP. Furthermore his performance was balanced with the dark reality of the actual job if a spy/assassin....which Beeper even comments on "you can switch off so easily".

    Despite all the insane running, jumping and killing CraigBond was in a pretty playful mood until the woman screwed him over.

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    @ColonelSun I’m sorry to see you leave as well, but I understand your choice. Hope to see you back sooner than later.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    Are people really using terms like "obnoxious" to describe Craig's performance in SP?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Are people really using terms like "obnoxious" to describe Craig's performance in SP?
    I'd definitely say so. Terribly dislikable at the very least. More than any other performance in a Bond film since inception, his approach in SP has actually turned me off his characterization.

    Brosnan had his weaknesses which are well known, but there's no question the guy looked like he was giving it his best every time. The issue there was that it wasn't good enough. Craig has it in him, but he completely misread how his approach would appear on screen to some viewers (including myself). I expected far more from him. I think he knows it too, which is why he wants to come back. It's a bigger crime to lose prior ardent fans than it is to have never had them at all.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Just to throw in one more comment about why I agree with @Mendes4Lyfe regarding Craig:

    As @Mendes4Lyfe I liked Craig in CR as it was noticeably different, and QoS as it picks up where CR left. But there’s no hiding that his character have always been "in a bad way" – which of course suits Craig. But when they try to take a slightly lighter approach with SP, he just doesn’t sell Bond at all to me.

    See for me, I think Craig can do light easily and exceptionally well. Look at his performance in Layer Cake or even in CR for the most part. Really pay attention to his performance in CR and you'll see he plays it somewhat light for the majority of the film but the lightness is measured and kept in check, avoiding spilling over into obnoxiousness as was the case for SP. Furthermore his performance was balanced with the dark reality of the actual job if a spy/assassin....which Vesper even comments on "you can switch off so easily".

    Despite all the insane running, jumping and killing CraigBond was in a pretty playful mood until the woman screwed him over.

  • Posts: 6,665
    bondsum wrote: »
    Once again, thank you @ColonelSun for your additional thoughts on the matter. It’s always been an absolute pleasure reading both your and @peter’s views. I guess from now on we only have @RC7 and @Univex (whom I’m also very fond of) to add some class and levity to the proceedings. No disrespect to the other worthy contributors here that I haven’t mentioned, nor the MODs, as your input goes without saying. I’m just highlighting two other valuable members that I find extremely engaging.

    Thank you for your words @bondsum. You too have my friendship and fondness.
    I'm actually considering a bit of hibernation myself, as there is to much vitriol on this thread. It's to bad we keep loosing valuable members like this over and over again throughout the years. But I've been here long enough to know it's always been like that. Fortunately, there will always be a lucid resistance that the good mods and owners of Mi6 can rely on to come back at one point or another. It's a shame because this is a brilliant site and it can be a brilliant community. I'm also at CBn, I never had a problem in saying that here. Both forums have been my home since, oh I don't know, 99 or something? I'll always be here in one capacity or another, even if just flying over a cuckoo's nest ;)
    Cheers
  • Posts: 9,737
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ve just woken up to read @peter’s comments. I’m extremely sad to see you go, but not surprised in the least. It seems to me that some posters here have been given a free reign and an impunity to trash other members thoughts and insights, whilst continually posting inane comments, because it appears to generate discussion, when the direct opposite appears to be the case, sinking the entire topic into a quagmire of juvenile posturing. Now we’re in that position again where we’re losing a valuable, mature and trusted member because things have been allowed to escalate without little or no redress. It’s painfully obvious to me who the culprit(s) are. Surely it’s time to clip a few wings again and restore order to this bear-pit of a discussion thread?

    This.

    I, too, am sorry to see @peter go. I hope he returns soon.

    Sane voices are too frequently and predictably savaged on this particular forum, and usually by the same 2 or 3 members who seem to resent anyone who might have a deeper understanding of the filmmaking process (after all we are discussing Bond films on this site) and, therefore, a reasonable grasp of what might really be going on re: Eon and Bond. It's a shame because there are many members here who are open minded, articulate, have interesting opinions to share and discuss, and who are respectful to others, unfortunately they are all too often ignored or belittled -- or their words/posts are twisted out of shape.

    Before I sign off, I'll say this; Bond 25 is aiming to keep it's release dates. Craig is committed. They are zeroing in on mostly fresh up-and-coming directors - and, yes, before a certain member chimes in, I know this is nothing new, but I will confirm it is what is going on. And I personally think Craig is the best thing to happen to the Bond franchise since Connery. He's made Bond his own and given the character a depth and inner life (internal conflict, which is very Fleming) which no other actor managed to do before. He's the best Bond since Connery. Just saying.


    As much as I don’t want to leave I feel fan forums are becoming too comicbooky if that makes sense the internet in general has people at each other’s throats of things that at the end of the day don’t matter... I don’t think I am gonna leave but I have been considering posting less..,

    And if anyone wants to hear about the whackiness on one of my other forums pm me
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    If they deliver an above average film next year all the tension will be diffused. It's unfortunate that this process is taking longer than it should, but ultimately a good film will allow fans to coalesce again. The last three films have been quite polarizing in some way shape or form (despite each having many fans), and although it's difficult to please everyone (particularly with a franchise like this which has had so many variations over the 55+ years) I think the trick will be to deliver something which doesn't stray too far from the norm and yet provides some freshness. Something which has a distinct filmic Bond DNA and yet affords further insights into the character.

    I think Cruise achieved that with Fallout earlier this year. There are a few who don't like it, some who think it was alright and many who absolutely love it. I've not seen many (any?) who hate it though.

    That's what they have to achieve with the next one. It's a tall task, but they can't have a polarizing entry imho. Not after SP.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 17,241
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Just to throw in one more comment about why I agree with @Mendes4Lyfe regarding Craig:

    As @Mendes4Lyfe I liked Craig in CR as it was noticeably different, and QoS as it picks up where CR left. But there’s no hiding that his character have always been "in a bad way" – which of course suits Craig. But when they try to take a slightly lighter approach with SP, he just doesn’t sell Bond at all to me.

    See for me, I think Craig can do light easily and exceptionally well. Look at his performance in Layer Cake or even in CR for the most part. Really pay attention to his performance in CR and you'll see he plays it somewhat light for the majority of the film but the lightness is measured and kept in check, avoiding spilling over into obnoxiousness as was the case for SP. Furthermore his performance was balanced with the dark reality of the actual job if a spy/assassin....which Beeper even comments on "you can switch off so easily".

    Despite all the insane running, jumping and killing CraigBond was in a pretty playful mood until the woman screwed him over.

    That's exactly the point. He's terrific in CR, and balances the lightness in a measured way (the film itself is well-balanced). After "the woman screws him over", he's not the same Bond; it follows him throughout all his films, more or less. Of course this has been the intention, but after 4 films that's a bit much. In SP when they tried to up the humour, it felt like Craig wasn't at all comfortable with it, IMO.
  • Posts: 11,425
    wasn't it Craig pushing for more Roger Moore style humour though?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2018 Posts: 23,883
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Just to throw in one more comment about why I agree with @Mendes4Lyfe regarding Craig:

    As @Mendes4Lyfe I liked Craig in CR as it was noticeably different, and QoS as it picks up where CR left. But there’s no hiding that his character have always been "in a bad way" – which of course suits Craig. But when they try to take a slightly lighter approach with SP, he just doesn’t sell Bond at all to me.

    See for me, I think Craig can do light easily and exceptionally well. Look at his performance in Layer Cake or even in CR for the most part. Really pay attention to his performance in CR and you'll see he plays it somewhat light for the majority of the film but the lightness is measured and kept in check, avoiding spilling over into obnoxiousness as was the case for SP. Furthermore his performance was balanced with the dark reality of the actual job if a spy/assassin....which Beeper even comments on "you can switch off so easily".

    Despite all the insane running, jumping and killing CraigBond was in a pretty playful mood until the woman screwed him over.

    That's exactly the point. He's terrific in CR, and balances the lightness in a measured way (the film itself is well-balanced). After "the woman screws him over", he's not the same Bond; it follows him throughout all his films, more or less. Of course this has been the intention, but after 4 films that's a bit much. In SP when they tried to up the humour, it felt like Craig wasn't at all comfortable with it, IMO.
    I have a theory that these deep Bond films where he suffers loss have to be standalones.

    As an example, I think OHMSS benefits from being Laz's standalone. As an audience we fully invest in the pain because it's the only film he's in. If Connery had done it, would we look at his Bond the same way we do now? Would it have impacted the way we see his earlier films, knowing the tortured narrative arc? I'm not so sure. Even today some fans say that Connery couldn't have played OHMSS, due to his indestructible and invulnerable nature in the other films. While I disagree, I can see where they're coming from. A portrayal defines an actor to a degree, and there's only so much one actor can do credibly and memorably within the context of a characterization.

    Bond cannot suffer in every film and not every film can be about his inner torment. Sometimes he just has to be Bond, doing what he does best. I think perhaps it's easier to buy into that if there is no prior emotional baggage.

    One issue that Craig has had is that CR defined his interpretation so vividly. Not just performance wise, but also narrative wise. They've been chasing it ever since.
    Getafix wrote: »
    wasn't it Craig pushing for more Roger Moore style humour though?
    Yes, he has said that on record, including alluding to Roger. He has also said that Bond's inner motivations are what he's interested in when it comes to the character.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    I've been away and come back numerous times, admitted because I've bitten on some of forum members comments and back myself into a corner with my childish responses.

    I don't have a problem admitting when I'm wrong although my last spat was with a past member now banned due to creating two accounts and deliberately being an excrement stirrer.

    Some of you gullible lot fell for his BS, looking back on all the fawning over jasonbond006 and is alter ego andre makes me want to reach for the sick bucket. So some of your judges of character I question and also the ability not be able to see a bare faced liar when you see one.

    Looking back over the rubbish those 2 used to spout and the way it was lapped up, I'm not even sure if he was ever a Soldier and even if he was is that the behaviour of someone who is given the responsibilty that he supposedly had?

    Yet people will fawn over a narcissistic attention seeker like that yet treat the likes of @ColonelSun, @peter & @RC7 with contempt and distrust.

    Certain members here have nowhere the knowledge they present and likely pour over the internet looking for things to impress others with, they appear to live in a bubble of MI6 and treat it like Twitter, the amount some post I can't see how they can have much of a life outside of the forum.

    The upshot of that is they think they have a rule over the forum and like to shout others down, there is an element of jealousy here. They'd love to have the knowledge that our fellow posters who are genuinely part of the industry have and because they can't add anything that tops those people's measured, generous and informed posts they attack it and call it into question as sitting in your mothers basement tapping away at your keyboard is a lonely place and when you've constructed a life around a Bond forum and someone comes along that clearly knows more than you and it doesn't truck with your constructed view of things you attack it.

    You can tell those that have stood on the shoulders of others who've done the work and presented it here to get a verbal handjob of those that lap it up and those that are genuinely informed.

    Yes of course we get passionate and disagree but there is a point when you have to realise that you are just a fan and are getting your knowledge from the internet when there are those here that genuinely know what they are talking about and don't have to but choose to enlighten us with their insight into the process.

    No one here is entitled to be here more than the next person and things get heated and out of control at times and some of us explode, it's fine to disagree and passionately so that's what make us fans although sometimes some here have a better insight into things and it's time they were respected and not shouted down because it doesn't fit your agenda.

    The passive aggressiveness on here is at times shouting like a megaphone for those at are atuned to it, dropping something into the discussion, stirring it about and then watch BS hit the fan as their agenda infects the thread.

    Anyway I'm sure they'll be those who'll say I'd rather come here and talk about Bond with fans and not have industry types disagree with my opinion as it's better that way for them as they can then entertain the hyperbole that is caused when ever a new Bond film is greenlit.

    I'll just leave this here and wait for the usual suspects to pounce on it.
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