Safe Operation Market Garden's landmark

CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
Ordinarily I'd never call in help from anyone, but this is, I think, a matter that concearns far more then just the tyne country I live in. Many of you know the history of Operation Market Garden, if only through the film 'A Bridge Too Far' with Connery as a Bond-connection in it.

One of the major landmarks of this battle, where so many British and Polish men lost their lives, is about to be taken down so they can build a house for the elderly there (cynical b******). Please help stop this affront to human dignity and help preserve this most important of buildings!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/nl/767/071/787/behoud-dreyeroord-oosterbeek-save-the-white-house-oosterbeek/

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  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Done with pleasure .
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Thanks!
  • DragonpolDragonpol Schloss Drache.
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    Signed the petition. Better late than never.
  • barryt007barryt007 With Bond and M in Tokyo,having an interesting experience.
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    Definitely...the allies lost a hell of a lot of good men that day,in that cock-up of a mission.

    Signed.
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    Signed.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Thanks everyone for signing! Sadly, the building can't be resqued, but it will be rebuilt like it was in the '40-ies. It'll also get it's old name back. It'll be a small scale care home for dementing elderly.

  • barryt007barryt007 With Bond and M in Tokyo,having an interesting experience.
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    Shit really ?!
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    yep. So it'll look like the original building, at the same spot, but it'll be rebuild.
  • barryt007barryt007 With Bond and M in Tokyo,having an interesting experience.
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    So in that case why cant they keep the original building ?
  • DragonpolDragonpol Schloss Drache.
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    Sounds daft to me too, but I'm sure they'll have some excuse for it.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    As far as I can fathom it's in terrible shape, and structurally too damaged. The newly build hotel will, as said, get a destination as care home for dementing elderly. It will be open to the public every Airborne remembrence day, and the 'living room' will have wartime pictures and painings on the wall. There will also be a monument to remember the fallen at a prominent place.
    It'll also get it's name back 'Dreyeroord'.


  • DragonpolDragonpol Schloss Drache.
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    As far as I can fathom it's in terrible shape, and structurally too damaged. The newly build hotel will, as said, get a destination as care home for dementing elderly. It will be open to the public every Airborne remembrence day, and the 'living room' will have wartime pictures and painings on the wall. There will also be a monument to remember the fallen at a prominent place.
    It'll also get it's name back 'Dreyeroord'.


    Well, that's the best that can be hoped for then. It's a result at least.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    It seems so. Not over enthusiastic here, but they fought their best. Perhaps quite fitting for the Market Garden operation.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Schloss Drache.
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    It seems so. Not over enthusiastic here, but they fought their best. Perhaps quite fitting for the Market Garden operation.

    Yes, a partial victory to remember the brave soldiers in a military failure. At least those that lost their lives wont't now be forgotten thanks to the monument and pictures etc.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well it's more then a military failure. it's a daring enterprise that gave hope to millions to be liberated soon. The braveness of those involved (except for Montgommery who should've payed more head to intelligence reports about those Pantzers) is beyond words. They will be remembered.

    (there's also the Airborne remembrence march:
    https://www.airbornewandeltocht.nl/en/home/1-welcome_to_the_airborne_march
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    I guess folks reading tis thread will already be aware, but just in case...

    Shortly after the wars end, Operation Market Garden was re-created for the big screen. It used actual locations and every man featured was a veteran of the battle who were telling their own story and things they had personally done and witnessed. It's a fascinating piece of forgotten film making. It's about one hour twenty long but a must watch for those interested in this battle, or indeed in military history in general.

  • DragonpolDragonpol Schloss Drache.
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    Well it's more then a military failure. it's a daring enterprise that gave hope to millions to be liberated soon. The braveness of those involved (except for Montgommery who should've payed more head to intelligence reports about those Pantzers) is beyond words. They will be remembered.

    (there's also the Airborne remembrence march:
    https://www.airbornewandeltocht.nl/en/home/1-welcome_to_the_airborne_march

    Oh, I didn't mean to imply it was a complete failure or that the sacrifices of the Allied troops brought nothing. Sorry if it came across like that.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Don't worry, I just wanted to tell that it has some very positive effects. Obviously some bad as well. Those living in the occupied part were heading in a winter known as the 'honger winter' (famine winter). The Nazi's became very tough and harsh, shedding all that was left of humanity. Still, it was a clear sign they were losing too.

    And as a people we're still increadeable thankfull for the sacrifice of these young men.
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