No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,254
    Cowley wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    I really hope Aidan Turner doesn't get anywhere near Bond, @Mendes4Lyfe sycophantic promoting is beyond nauseating.

    The more I've seen of Turner the more I think he just couldn't carry the Bond series.

    Brosnan wasn't particularly a Bond actor I wanted or a representation of Bond I wished to see but he did have some good moments and as far as an amalgam Bond I don't think he can be bettered.

    I sense Craig isn't done yet but even if he is, the next Bond needs to take us in another new direction again. It seemed that half of the press criticism about SPECTRE was as much about the redundancy of the franchise as it was about the film itself. Reliving a past era wont wash again. We just need a forward thinking and contemporary action-thriller peppered with those all essential Fleming elements that make it recognisibly Bond rather than a regurgitated Bond.

    Totally agree with you-- the past has been done, and has been broken, with CR... To go back to MP at her desk, M and his office, Q and his gadgets... Mendes bringing it back with a sledghammer in SP, took us steps back, and not in a good way.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,586
    'Production will begin later this year'

    So that's filming early 2018. Ok not as long or complicated as a Bond shoot but to think that they will wrap this and then go straight into B25 from there is not realistic given their recent bleating about needing a rest, especially given they'll be far too busy with this to supervise a Bond script which needs to be in decent shape 12 months from now if 2019 is viable.

    Looking like 2020 now at best so I think it's time to let Craig go.
    Calliope wrote: »
    Just to throw another spanner in the works:

    "Blake Lively to Star in Spy Thriller from Bond Producers" - Production to start later this year.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/blake-lively-star-spy-thriller-bond-producers-1020546

    There you have it. I start repeating myself at times, but to this news article one of my previous posts is still fitting:
    If the rumour is true, and I wouldn't be surprised, then it shows that the owners of Bond, Broccoli and Wilson, and the writers of Bond, Purvis & Wade, lost all inspiration and creativity. I think they all got tired of the Bond franchise. And it's not just this rumour, it has been going on for a year or so now. Barbara Broccoli prefers to invest her money in Broadway productions. Michael Wilson keeps photographing for his photography collection or he indulges in his work for the Tate Modern Museum. Son Gregg Wilson prefers touring around the globe with his other hobby; electronical music. Purvis & Wade themselves take the Bond franchise way way too seriously, by saying nothing can be written anymore because the Silva's and Blofeld's from the films have become reality. And actor (and co-producer no less!) Daniel Craig doesn't even think about his fans, his Bond fans, by saying "Ooowh, I'm just too tired right now, but count on my return!!".

    Ooowh, and I haven't even mentioned the continuous drag of movie company MGM, who owns the franchise half, but can't even distribute! The Bond films are always dependent on outside film distributors who like to come onboard for a nasty little percentage of the overall margin!

    Add to that the sheer enthusiasm, from a producer's perspective and from the perspective of cast & crew, from competing action/spy franchises like Kingsman, Mission: Impossible, X-Men and even Fast & Furious, and I become highly depressed! Hugh Jackman, Tom Cruise, Colin Firth and many other big actors love to be part of longlasting franchises. Daniel Craig however puts up a middlefinger to his Bond role and Barbara Broccoli tolerates it in the meantime.

    The current state of the Bond franchise....tires me, makes me feel depressed. I really think 'Cubby's' adage "Don't let them screw it up" needs to be looked upon again. Because I think 'they' are screwing it up right now. This latest rumour in which supposedly EON Productions seems to be interested in a Bond Cinematic Universe makes me shiver. Not to mention the fact that Babs & Michael doesn't even care about the big Bond fan community and their input! So before Barbara goes battling for more diversity in British films, perhaps she should first consult with her loyal fanbase! Now that's what I call real diversity, real out-of-the-box thinking.

    I am a big Bond fan. But like I said last year.......do not expect a new Bond film as early as late 2019 or even late 2020. That in itself is bad for the market value and brand recognition of the Bond franchise as well. Slowly yet steadily other spy-/action franchises will take over the void that Bond is leaving behind.

    I'm with you all the way.

    I can understand if you want to make a kitchen sink drama or a comedy but I really fail to see the point of starting a new spy film franchise, which must be a risk financially, when you already have the rights to the greatest (and most bankable) one of all.

    Except of course it lets them have a female lead so Babs can tick that diversity in her quest for a Damehood for services to film. And of course they're all made up because they can dust off bits of that Jinx script they were all so desperate to make a decade ago. No doubt P&W will be scripting this.

    If you have no interest in Bond EON fine but at least don't hog the rights so no one else can make one.

    Here's a nice article from Bill Koenig's Spy Command:
    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2017/07/13/eon-non-007-portfolio-bond-25/

    In all honest opinion? I think EON Productions are starting to trash the Bond fan community these days. I can understand that without a distribution deal, no Bond film can be made. But really? EON invests all their money in two....TWO non-Bond film projects? With such a lacklustre attitude from a pre=produuction perspective on Bond,we might as well face the longest hiatus since the 6-year hiatus between LTK and GE. With a difference: This time there's a completely indifferent, lacklustre, creative void at EON House in Piccadilly.

    It's time we Bond fans let our voices hear. And not just that, but to strongly oppose EON Productions towards the Bond franchise. In part EON is to blame, and if Daniel Craig stays Bond, then he might well look like this for his 25th film:
    OoWYUlI.jpg
    Are you for real?
  • Posts: 11,119
    Cowley wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    I really hope Aidan Turner doesn't get anywhere near Bond, @Mendes4Lyfe sycophantic promoting is beyond nauseating.

    The more I've seen of Turner the more I think he just couldn't carry the Bond series.

    Brosnan wasn't particularly a Bond actor I wanted or a representation of Bond I wished to see but he did have some good moments and as far as an amalgam Bond I don't think he can be bettered.

    I sense Craig isn't done yet but even if he is, the next Bond needs to take us in another new direction again. It seemed that half of the press criticism about SPECTRE was as much about the redundancy of the franchise as it was about the film itself. Reliving a past era wont wash again. We just need a forward thinking and contemporary action-thriller peppered with those all essential Fleming elements that make it recognisibly Bond rather than a regurgitated Bond.

    Actually, I disagree. For the continuity of the franchise we must not have constant reboots, reimaginings, new directions or perhaps even a 007 extended universe. No! What Bond needs now.....is a simple approach that made the 007-franchise big in the first place:

    --> A Bond film every 2 or 3 years. Look what Marvel is doing now. Don't start this nonsense that a 007-film these days is such a heavy production burden. Bullocks. If Robert Downey Jr. or Hugh Jackman are willing to reprise their roles as Iron Man or Wolverine every 2 years, then Barbara and Michael need to kick Daniel Craig under his butt!
    --> A Bond film that's more stand-alone again, yet still continuing the Bond 'universe' that started with "Casino Royale". Slowly but steadily "Mission: Impossible" is doing just that. Then don't fuck it up, and continue now this way with the Bond franchise as well!

    For me, the biggest danger of the 007 franchise is the fact that EON Productions is willingly and slowly turning the Bond franchise into a trend-follower franchise-wise. It needs to be trend-setting now!

    Secondly, there's only so much of originality one can bring to Bond. I'm getting tired of all the talk that the next Bond film should have these or those elements, should be more campy or more Fleming-esque, must have this or that. Dammit.....we have had 24 official Bond films now! None of them is 100% perfect from a cinematic perspective. And because of the very fact that the Bond franchise is so old, by default a Bond film will be unoriginal! Grab that fact by the balls....and produce a Bond film without too much seriousness and with lots of fun!
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
    Posts: 1,187
    It's only a rumour P&W are working on a script, and even if they were, it tells us virtually nothing. We've seen productions in development for years without getting anywhere. I think that GE went through many stages of rewrites whilst Dalton was still Bond, and after. They could be working on a script now, and still not have a finished film by 2020. I think those still believing things will just fall into place for a 2018 are being very optimistic. If they push hard for 2018, likely it will be another troubled shoot and lead to everyone pointing fingers again with the final product doesn't perform as desired. That's precisely the circumstance they would like to avoid, which is why I tend to think 2018 is already off the table, even if it is strictly speaking still possible.
    Shardlake wrote: »
    I really hope Aidan Turner doesn't get anywhere near Bond, @Mendes4Lyfe sycophantic promoting is beyond nauseating.
    The more he floods the boards Aiden Turner the more resentful I am of him becoming Bond. Quite ironic.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    GetCarter wrote: »
    001) halve SP's budget
    002) remove Craig from creative decisions
    003) establish an ongoing bond script house with a revolving team of talented writers
    004) spend time on perfecting a ripping spy caper
    005) commit to a production schedule of one film every two years
    006) hire a proficient journeyman in the vein of Hunt, Glen or Campbell to direct
    007) allow Craig to continue but only if he adheres to the above schedule
    This sounds good to me but it's unlikely to happen any time soon.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 6,682
    'Production will begin later this year'

    So that's filming early 2018. Ok not as long or complicated as a Bond shoot but to think that they will wrap this and then go straight into B25 from there is not realistic given their recent bleating about needing a rest, especially given they'll be far too busy with this to supervise a Bond script which needs to be in decent shape 12 months from now if 2019 is viable.

    Looking like 2020 now at best so I think it's time to let Craig go.
    Calliope wrote: »
    Just to throw another spanner in the works:

    "Blake Lively to Star in Spy Thriller from Bond Producers" - Production to start later this year.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/blake-lively-star-spy-thriller-bond-producers-1020546

    There you have it. I start repeating myself at times, but to this news article one of my previous posts is still fitting:
    If the rumour is true, and I wouldn't be surprised, then it shows that the owners of Bond, Broccoli and Wilson, and the writers of Bond, Purvis & Wade, lost all inspiration and creativity. I think they all got tired of the Bond franchise. And it's not just this rumour, it has been going on for a year or so now. Barbara Broccoli prefers to invest her money in Broadway productions. Michael Wilson keeps photographing for his photography collection or he indulges in his work for the Tate Modern Museum. Son Gregg Wilson prefers touring around the globe with his other hobby; electronical music. Purvis & Wade themselves take the Bond franchise way way too seriously, by saying nothing can be written anymore because the Silva's and Blofeld's from the films have become reality. And actor (and co-producer no less!) Daniel Craig doesn't even think about his fans, his Bond fans, by saying "Ooowh, I'm just too tired right now, but count on my return!!".

    Ooowh, and I haven't even mentioned the continuous drag of movie company MGM, who owns the franchise half, but can't even distribute! The Bond films are always dependent on outside film distributors who like to come onboard for a nasty little percentage of the overall margin!

    Add to that the sheer enthusiasm, from a producer's perspective and from the perspective of cast & crew, from competing action/spy franchises like Kingsman, Mission: Impossible, X-Men and even Fast & Furious, and I become highly depressed! Hugh Jackman, Tom Cruise, Colin Firth and many other big actors love to be part of longlasting franchises. Daniel Craig however puts up a middlefinger to his Bond role and Barbara Broccoli tolerates it in the meantime.

    The current state of the Bond franchise....tires me, makes me feel depressed. I really think 'Cubby's' adage "Don't let them screw it up" needs to be looked upon again. Because I think 'they' are screwing it up right now. This latest rumour in which supposedly EON Productions seems to be interested in a Bond Cinematic Universe makes me shiver. Not to mention the fact that Babs & Michael doesn't even care about the big Bond fan community and their input! So before Barbara goes battling for more diversity in British films, perhaps she should first consult with her loyal fanbase! Now that's what I call real diversity, real out-of-the-box thinking.

    I am a big Bond fan. But like I said last year.......do not expect a new Bond film as early as late 2019 or even late 2020. That in itself is bad for the market value and brand recognition of the Bond franchise as well. Slowly yet steadily other spy-/action franchises will take over the void that Bond is leaving behind.

    I'm with you all the way.

    I can understand if you want to make a kitchen sink drama or a comedy but I really fail to see the point of starting a new spy film franchise, which must be a risk financially, when you already have the rights to the greatest (and most bankable) one of all.

    Except of course it lets them have a female lead so Babs can tick that diversity in her quest for a Damehood for services to film. And of course they're all made up because they can dust off bits of that Jinx script they were all so desperate to make a decade ago. No doubt P&W will be scripting this.

    If you have no interest in Bond EON fine but at least don't hog the rights so no one else can make one.

    OoWYUlI.jpg

    http://theactionelite.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/you-only-live-twice-blofeld-donald-pleasence.jpg
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    This is old stuff peeps..time to move on ?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,328
    Watch some Bond movies until real news comes in, No need to stand around like a cadet review talking about random BS.
  • Posts: 19,339
    Murdock wrote: »
    Watch some Bond movies until real news comes in, No need to stand around like a cadet review talking about random BS.

    That's what I have been saying..well done my good man
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,371
    Murdock wrote: »
    Watch some Bond movies until real news comes in, No need to stand around like a cadet review talking about random BS.

    Good stuff. The news will arrive when it arrives, and until then, enjoy the TWO DOZEN films we have in the official series. If you keep it out of mind, you'll only be surprised.
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    DC as an older man looks like a head kicker from a Guy Ritchie flick. Well played, made me laugh
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,921
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Finally some words of wisdom from @Creasy47 and @RC7.
    The Internet really is one big breeding place for mass hysteria. It'll happen when it happens and they'll talk when they talk.

    I fail to see why so many here are making so much fuss over simple speculations and pseudo-scientific deductions about what the producers of one of the biggest film series will do next.

    Somehow, Barbara Broccoli is taking a lot of heat too. If I understand some posts well, she can't wait to destroy the franchise by feminizing the whole thing up like a mad suffragette. She's become the black sheep in our "interbondum" discussions. And when the new movie hits well and hard, many members just "know" that Michael Wilson probably had had to sedate her to achieve this or that magnificent result. Yes, Cubby's daughter, producer of some of the most critically acclaimed and financially successful Bond films, has somehow turned into this forum's private toilet. You got issues with something? Blame it on "Babs" because she's a girl and what does she know, right? I mean, I keep reading tons of stuff about how she constantly sabotages the series, while most of the problems the series has ever faced were the fault of Harry and that a-hole Kevin McClory and many problems are still leftovers from Harry's clumsy conduct in '74.

    But then the Internet is the place to be for people who "know" everything, who read the same bogus in ten different articles, not checking the sources, not realizing that one article with lies can easily spread around and spawn nine more citing the original article as a "reliable source" but no official source whatsoever. Internet lies spread like a virus; Internet hysteria and shared obsessions even faster. For some mysterious reason, many here have become obsessed with "Babs" as the ultimate antagonistic force behind the Bond productions, something I haven't found even an ounce of proof of yet. Like Vatican cardinals, more obsessed with sex than people who actually practice it, many here pretend they know more about Babs and her intentions with the series than folks who have actually walked in her office or had meetings with her and MGW.

    I have learned my lesson by now. I'll start discussing things when we hear from EON. Meanwhile, whatever issues I may or may not have with the recent Bond films -- and I only have a few, if any -- are not directly aimed at Barbara Broccoli. I have faith in the producers. And whatever they deliver, I'll see it and review it. But as long as the cook hasn't ringed, I'll stay out of the kitchen and feed off some salty snacks. Plenty of those in my movie collection. The next Bond film will come but when and how and with whom and so forth remains to be seen and isn't something we have any saying in.

    Yes, Internet comment boards are like Silicon Valley and Fox News. It's tough to be a woman in any three places. Sexist attacks abound.

    I have confidence in Babs.
  • JeffreyJeffrey The Netherlands
    Posts: 308
    echo wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Finally some words of wisdom from @Creasy47 and @RC7.
    The Internet really is one big breeding place for mass hysteria. It'll happen when it happens and they'll talk when they talk.

    I fail to see why so many here are making so much fuss over simple speculations and pseudo-scientific deductions about what the producers of one of the biggest film series will do next.

    Somehow, Barbara Broccoli is taking a lot of heat too. If I understand some posts well, she can't wait to destroy the franchise by feminizing the whole thing up like a mad suffragette. She's become the black sheep in our "interbondum" discussions. And when the new movie hits well and hard, many members just "know" that Michael Wilson probably had had to sedate her to achieve this or that magnificent result. Yes, Cubby's daughter, producer of some of the most critically acclaimed and financially successful Bond films, has somehow turned into this forum's private toilet. You got issues with something? Blame it on "Babs" because she's a girl and what does she know, right? I mean, I keep reading tons of stuff about how she constantly sabotages the series, while most of the problems the series has ever faced were the fault of Harry and that a-hole Kevin McClory and many problems are still leftovers from Harry's clumsy conduct in '74.

    But then the Internet is the place to be for people who "know" everything, who read the same bogus in ten different articles, not checking the sources, not realizing that one article with lies can easily spread around and spawn nine more citing the original article as a "reliable source" but no official source whatsoever. Internet lies spread like a virus; Internet hysteria and shared obsessions even faster. For some mysterious reason, many here have become obsessed with "Babs" as the ultimate antagonistic force behind the Bond productions, something I haven't found even an ounce of proof of yet. Like Vatican cardinals, more obsessed with sex than people who actually practice it, many here pretend they know more about Babs and her intentions with the series than folks who have actually walked in her office or had meetings with her and MGW.

    I have learned my lesson by now. I'll start discussing things when we hear from EON. Meanwhile, whatever issues I may or may not have with the recent Bond films -- and I only have a few, if any -- are not directly aimed at Barbara Broccoli. I have faith in the producers. And whatever they deliver, I'll see it and review it. But as long as the cook hasn't ringed, I'll stay out of the kitchen and feed off some salty snacks. Plenty of those in my movie collection. The next Bond film will come but when and how and with whom and so forth remains to be seen and isn't something we have any saying in.

    Yes, Internet comment boards are like Silicon Valley and Fox News. It's tough to be a woman in any three places. Sexist attacks abound.

    I have confidence in Babs.

    Of course sometimes there are also people that see sexism when it's not really there. Or is not allowed to have any sort of criticism when it appends to a woman?

    Just to clarify, I really don't specifically have any criticism regarding Barbara. But if one does it isn't necessarily sexist.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    echo wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Finally some words of wisdom from @Creasy47 and @RC7.
    The Internet really is one big breeding place for mass hysteria. It'll happen when it happens and they'll talk when they talk.

    I fail to see why so many here are making so much fuss over simple speculations and pseudo-scientific deductions about what the producers of one of the biggest film series will do next.

    Somehow, Barbara Broccoli is taking a lot of heat too. If I understand some posts well, she can't wait to destroy the franchise by feminizing the whole thing up like a mad suffragette. She's become the black sheep in our "interbondum" discussions. And when the new movie hits well and hard, many members just "know" that Michael Wilson probably had had to sedate her to achieve this or that magnificent result. Yes, Cubby's daughter, producer of some of the most critically acclaimed and financially successful Bond films, has somehow turned into this forum's private toilet. You got issues with something? Blame it on "Babs" because she's a girl and what does she know, right? I mean, I keep reading tons of stuff about how she constantly sabotages the series, while most of the problems the series has ever faced were the fault of Harry and that a-hole Kevin McClory and many problems are still leftovers from Harry's clumsy conduct in '74.

    But then the Internet is the place to be for people who "know" everything, who read the same bogus in ten different articles, not checking the sources, not realizing that one article with lies can easily spread around and spawn nine more citing the original article as a "reliable source" but no official source whatsoever. Internet lies spread like a virus; Internet hysteria and shared obsessions even faster. For some mysterious reason, many here have become obsessed with "Babs" as the ultimate antagonistic force behind the Bond productions, something I haven't found even an ounce of proof of yet. Like Vatican cardinals, more obsessed with sex than people who actually practice it, many here pretend they know more about Babs and her intentions with the series than folks who have actually walked in her office or had meetings with her and MGW.

    I have learned my lesson by now. I'll start discussing things when we hear from EON. Meanwhile, whatever issues I may or may not have with the recent Bond films -- and I only have a few, if any -- are not directly aimed at Barbara Broccoli. I have faith in the producers. And whatever they deliver, I'll see it and review it. But as long as the cook hasn't ringed, I'll stay out of the kitchen and feed off some salty snacks. Plenty of those in my movie collection. The next Bond film will come but when and how and with whom and so forth remains to be seen and isn't something we have any saying in.

    Yes, Internet comment boards are like Silicon Valley and Fox News. It's tough to be a woman in any three places. Sexist attacks abound.

    I have confidence in Babs.

    I did have but after SP I'm not so sure. And it's nothing to do with her being a woman it's to do with the script development of the film being a dysfunctional mess.

    I guess it's fair comment that she seems to get more of the opprobrium than MGW (when he should be held equally culpable) these days, but I think that's because of the perception that she's the driving force while he is winding down to retirement rather than anything to do with her sex.

    Newsflash - minorities can be just as shit at their jobs as anyone else but we all need to keep silent about stepbrothergate etc just because she's a woman?

    Whilst Gustav is clearly having one of his drama queen hissy fits demanding EON be stripped of the franchise I do think legitimate questions need to be asked rather than meekly accepting everything is going to be fine and thinking EON are above any criticism whatsoever.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Bond should remain a family business. That way, it will be safer (no matter what you think of the current administration of the business or SP, for example) an IP than in the hands of many money-hungry corporations who will ruin the hell out of it and be done with it. So, no. I'd rather Bond remains in Eon's hands for as long as possible.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    This.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The woman thing was but one sentence in a very long post, folks. If I have given the impression that all Babs haters are sexists, then I apologise. I didn't want to, hence I dropped the possibility of some being driven by sexism only once.

    The anti-EON thing is a typical internet reaction. You should read how folks scream and shout about Disney or WB at times. Some geeks were only one action figure away from setting fire to Abrams' home when the trailer of TFA was released, over one lens flare no less. Relax.

    I think we can all agree that EON is the home of James Bond. The fact that they aren't franchising Bond out with two films and a spinoff AND a television series per year, should be celebrated as a good thing. I take that as a good sign. Think about this: some folks here have decided to hate on EON simply because they are not crapping out Bond films at the same rate Disney is giving us Avengers films and Star Wars. Would we really want that?

    Also, I never got the memo that said Barbara couldn't do something else between two Bonds while Cubby and Harry could.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Like I stated in the 007 Shared Universe thread, a Bond spin-off(s) won't work. TV Series may be, but only if they're adapting Fleming's novels closely, including the setting. A modern-day Bond adventure, leave that to the films.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,448
    Reading some posts again, it's almost unbelievable how content hungry we have become, how much more we seem to care about quantity than quality.

    - Babs is doing something else.
    - Oh no! I know that the next Bond film will be released no sooner than 20..! I know that Craig will not be able to handle the part anymore. I know that in order to avoid this, we should ship the rights to another company because that will work.
    - Craig WILL be doing the next Bond.
    - No, he won't. Here, look at this photoshop thing from which we can all safely deduce he won't be Bond anymore by then. (Remember how the craigisnotbond crowd also tried to prove a point with fake images?)
    - Oh good! Let him leave. Time for a bloody hobbit to step in. You know, the guy you hadn't even considered but I'm going to shove his name down your throat. (Yeah, so often in fact, we hate this man more than a deadly virus simply because some fanboy went obsessed over him.)
    - ...

    We have 24 films (26 if you like -- 27 even if you count a television play as a film) to enjoy. The most recent one isn't even two years old! We have a good dozen amazing books to page through (and many more if you count the non-Flemings). We have some cool comics to read, several very exciting soundtracks to listen to and a couple of really nice video games to play. Books deconstructing Bond, his philosophy, the film series, ... can fill half a library. But with a little help from Disney and others, we have become insatiable. We run out of a film during the end titles as if our lives depend on it, already planning with our iPhones when to reconvene for the next film in the series. Anticipating a film is the only thing we can do anymore; sitting down, contemplating the film, letting the buzz and hype cool off and re-evaluate the film, celebrating yet another fine addition to the series, ... it's become a lost art. All we want is the next product, fast, and EON, you HAVE to give it to us now...

    ... or we'll cry.

    ... or we'll feed you pics of who we want for Bond next because we know you'll do as we say.

    People, chill the f*** out!
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    All of the above +110% .
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Things I would like/ expect to see in Bond 25
    Craig return

    Despite rumours of attempting to secure Adele, she has recently ruptured vocal chords and it may be impossible to make the timescale work until her prognosis is known, I believe they will follow current trend like they did bringing in Sam Smith, by looking for Rag'N'Bone Man on theme.

    In Spectre Bond has Lucia Sciarra extracted by Felix to safety therefore Jeffrey Wright and Monica Bellucci to return.

    London scenes to be limited to HQ. London has been overdone by Skyfall and Spectre.

    Aston Martin Valkyrie to feature in the film.

    I can only see Nolan directing if new Distrib deal is with Warner Brothers, he is exclusive to them, if rumours of Sony 1 more picture deal are true, it puts Nolan rumours to bed for me.

    David Arnold to return.

    Locations: Would like to see bond back in the US, also Southern hemisphere, New Zealand, Japan ?

    I am not opposed to Dan being the actor who plays Bond to his death, if the story is good, and it's and epic last stand against Blofeld it be a fitting end to Dan's tenure and leave it clean for a reboot for the next guy.
  • //I guess it's fair comment that she seems to get more of the opprobrium than MGW (when he should be held equally culpable) these days, but I think that's because of the perception that she's the driving force while he is winding down to retirement rather than anything to do with her sex.//

    It's not just fans. Remember when Sam Mendes talked about the Bond casting process in 2016?

    “[Producer] Barbara Broccoli chooses who’s going to be the next Bond: end of story,” Mendes continued. “I can guarantee whatever happens with it, it will not be what you expect. That’s what she’s been brilliant at, and that’s how it’ll survive … it’s not a public vote, and I think we’re in an age where everything is deemed voteable on. Some things just aren’t and it’s better that way.”

    He didn't say "Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson choose who's going to be the next Bond, end of story." Comments like that, over time, feed into the impression she is the driving force, rather than Wilson.

    http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/mendes-on-bond-it-will-not-be-what-you-expect.html
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    - Oh good! Let him leave. Time for a bloody hobbit to step in. You know, the guy you hadn't even considered but I'm going to shove his name down your throat. (Yeah, so often in fact, we hate this man more than a deadly virus simply because some fanboy went obsessed over him.)

    I actually almost feel a bit sorry for Turner.

    He's far from the worst candidate in history but thanks to Mendes4lyfe's vomit inducing propaganda everyone on here already despises the guy and I'd sooner see Danny Dyer get the role.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Even Steven Seagal stands a better chance to be endorsed as the next Bond by this forum than Turner at this point.

    The man has his own cherry energy drink for crying it out loudly! Look at the innuendo. This is pure Bond material.

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    He can do the theme song as well
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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    He can do the theme song as well
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    If that's one of the criteria then I have Dennis Waterman ahead of Turner as well.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I've not seen enough of Turner to say either way, but I don't hate the guy. There is potential there. I'd recommend those who may be having a visceral reaction to his name being mentioned to reconsider, until we see more evidence that he can't handle the part. Same goes for other potential replacements. We are much closer to a switch than not and the sooner we come to terms with that, the less chance of disappointments. The incumbent only has one in him at most, and when Craig's name was dropped in 2005 I almost threw up. The point being, people can surprise. Even Hardy can possibly deliver, but they'll have to push the boundaries even further on film trickery to cover up his shortcomings.

    As for Babs, she's not someone I put on a pedestal. She's carried on her father's legacy admirably. However, anyone who let that SP script get to where it got deserves a reprimand in my book. Ultimately the buck stops with her. She will get credit for success, and should get criticism for failure as well.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Reading some posts again, it's almost unbelievable how content hungry we have become, how much more we seem to care about quantity than quality.

    - Babs is doing something else.
    - Oh no! I know that the next Bond film will be released no sooner than 20..! I know that Craig will not be able to handle the part anymore. I know that in order to avoid this, we should ship the rights to another company because that will work.
    - Craig WILL be doing the next Bond.
    - No, he won't. Here, look at this photoshop thing from which we can all safely deduce he won't be Bond anymore by then. (Remember how the craigisnotbond crowd also tried to prove a point with fake images?)
    - Oh good! Let him leave. Time for a bloody hobbit to step in. You know, the guy you hadn't even considered but I'm going to shove his name down your throat. (Yeah, so often in fact, we hate this man more than a deadly virus simply because some fanboy went obsessed over him.)
    - ...

    We have 24 films (26 if you like -- 27 even if you count a television play as a film) to enjoy. The most recent one isn't even two years old! We have a good dozen amazing books to page through (and many more if you count the non-Flemings). We have some cool comics to read, several very exciting soundtracks to listen to and a couple of really nice video games to play. Books deconstructing Bond, his philosophy, the film series, ... can fill half a library. But with a little help from Disney and others, we have become insatiable. We run out of a film during the end titles as if our lives depend on it, already planning with our iPhones when to reconvene for the next film in the series. Anticipating a film is the only thing we can do anymore; sitting down, contemplating the film, letting the buzz and hype cool off and re-evaluate the film, celebrating yet another fine addition to the series, ... it's become a lost art. All we want is the next product, fast, and EON, you HAVE to give it to us now...

    ... or we'll cry.

    ... or we'll feed you pics of who we want for Bond next because we know you'll do as we say.

    People, chill the f*** out!

    Nah. A film every other year isn't unreasonable for Bond fans to expect.
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    I'd rather have no news than the drip feed, is it true/isn't true stuff we're getting. We have one story about DC returning with a film out in 2018 or 2019 quickly followed up by news that Eon are working on a different spy film altogether.
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