BOND POLLS 2016: The Top 10 JAMES BOND-007 Film Ranking Contest (Results: winner!, on page 60)

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    @Gustav_Graves, judging from those texts, your friend hasn't even seen most or any of the old films, and has only watched "half of one," if I'm reading that right. Get him educated, would you?

    He isn't a fan like I am hehe. But don't forget that there are millions of people who merely 'like' Bond films and who aren't die-hard Bond nerds like we are.

    But....I will educate him a bit more hehe.

    I have a couple of friends who write off the whole series as nothing but shallow repetition with no redeeming qualities. There's only so many times you can try educate some people before you just have to admit defeat and accept they'll never remember the visual pleasures a lot of these films have to offer.

    I can understand how the formula could get off-putting to some running through the series, but there's some movies like DN, FRWL, GF, TB, OHMSS and TSWLM that you as a human being need to see. To understand cinema and what makes its history, you must also study Bond as one of the properties that has imprinted it the most.

    Yes, I would definitely agree there. But even then, Bond had a cultural impact that was actually larger than the films themselves - especially in the 60's around the time of TB and YOLT where you couldn't go anywhere without being exposed to it. In the larger context there was no buzz even close to that until SF. I read a great book called "The James Bond Phenomenon" by James Chapman and the overall feeling I came out with is that it's Bond's impact as a character rather than the films/plots themselves that resonate with audiences. That general feeling spread out over 50 years will eventually lead to less people being familiar with individual plots and stories - and that makes introducing people to it nowadays even harder in such a saturated market. In that respect, Bond is both the series greatest asset and ironically one of its weaknesses but thankfully the allure of the character as the former outweighs the latter.

    That being said, you're right about Bond's imprint on history. The films you listed were mostly huge trendsetters in every aspect - not just in what was made, but how it was made too. I wonder if we'll ever get back to that point.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    That being said, you're right about Bond's imprint on history. The films you listed were mostly huge trendsetters in every aspect - not just in what was made, but how it was made too. I wonder if we'll ever get back to that point.

    It will be very difficult, because as you said the market is incredibly saturated with much talent, and on the other hand mediocre products that audience will also lap up. Add to that a century of cinema and then you can understand what a difficult job the producers have.

    That's likely why the latest films have been so nostalgic.
  • w2bond wrote: »
    That being said, you're right about Bond's imprint on history. The films you listed were mostly huge trendsetters in every aspect - not just in what was made, but how it was made too. I wonder if we'll ever get back to that point.

    It will be very difficult, because as you said the market is incredibly saturated with much talent, and on the other hand mediocre products that audience will also lap up. Add to that a century of cinema and then you can understand what a difficult job the producers have.

    That's likely why the latest films have been so nostalgic.

    And can we actually prevent nostalgia from a 53 year old movie franchise?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,470
    w2bond wrote: »
    That being said, you're right about Bond's imprint on history. The films you listed were mostly huge trendsetters in every aspect - not just in what was made, but how it was made too. I wonder if we'll ever get back to that point.

    It will be very difficult, because as you said the market is incredibly saturated with much talent, and on the other hand mediocre products that audience will also lap up. Add to that a century of cinema and then you can understand what a difficult job the producers have.

    That's likely why the latest films have been so nostalgic.

    And can we actually prevent nostalgia from a 53 year old movie franchise?

    Probably not. But we can definitely try and avoid embracing it like an ex-lover who is only back for a quickie.
  • w2bond wrote: »
    That being said, you're right about Bond's imprint on history. The films you listed were mostly huge trendsetters in every aspect - not just in what was made, but how it was made too. I wonder if we'll ever get back to that point.

    It will be very difficult, because as you said the market is incredibly saturated with much talent, and on the other hand mediocre products that audience will also lap up. Add to that a century of cinema and then you can understand what a difficult job the producers have.

    That's likely why the latest films have been so nostalgic.

    And can we actually prevent nostalgia from a 53 year old movie franchise?

    Probably not. But we can definitely try and avoid embracing it like an ex-lover who is only back for a quickie.
    :-P.

    I heard Gary Barber saying Bond #25 is now in development?
  • For everyone in here, I made a new overview of all the points/votes allocated to every Bond film, now in order of production year :-):

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    If you look closely, until voter @Chang (65th voter), OHMSS and CR were really fighting for top spot. But the more voters joined, the more CR ran away with it.

    Also now you see clearly: The more 'green', the better the Bond film. Overall the 1960's obviously are very 'green', but so are the 2000's and 2010's....especially since Craig joined the club.

    I am thinking of ranking the best predictors in this contest ;-)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e il momento che verrà
    Posts: 5,598
    I won't be in that top 10 I'm afraid but it is a good idea! ;)
  • Posts: 3,326
    Why not ;)
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    But we weren't predicting, we were listing our personal favorites. Maybe a different terminology for that ranking would be more appropriate.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,470
    I'll get my speech ready, @Gustav_Graves :P
  • GBFGBF
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    But we weren't predicting, we were listing our personal favorites. Maybe a different terminology for that ranking would be more appropriate.

    Agree. One could rathercall the one who is closest to the overall vote "the least unique voter".
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
    Posts: 41,590
    If there is anyone whose top ten is exactly as the final outcome, I will eat my helmet.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
    Posts: 28,231
    If there is anyone whose top ten is exactly as the final outcome, I will eat my helmet.

    Get eating, @Thunderfinger. @CraigMooreOHMSS had the same top ten as the final tally.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 31,024
    I don't think it was in the same order, which I believe Thundefinger was saying. But it's not my job to defend that plank.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,470
    If there is anyone whose top ten is exactly as the final outcome, I will eat my helmet.

    Get eating, @Thunderfinger. @CraigMooreOHMSS had the same top ten as the final tally.
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I don't think it was in the same order, which I believe Thundefinger was saying. But it's not my job to defend that plank.

    If Gustav allows me to, I will re-order my top ten on the condition that @Thunderfinger posts video proof that a helmet was indeed devoured.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
    Posts: 41,590
    No helmet for lunch today, I am sure.
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    12 points On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    11 points Casino Royale
    10 points The Living Daylights
    09 points For Your Eyes Only
    08 points From Russia With Love
    07 points Octopussy
    06 points Thunderball
    05 points SPECTRE
    04 points Goldeneye
    02 points The Spy Who Loved Me
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 31,024
    Too Late.
  • augie7107augie7107 Boston
    Posts: 106
    Been away for months and just seeing this. Well organized and I appreciate the invite. I also apologize for not participating.
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