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  • Posts: 613
    what movie averages the best out of us members? Does anyone know that?

  • what movie averages the best out of us members? Does anyone know that?

    Probably FRWL or OHMSS but I am guessing.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    Posts: 1,984
    Probably FRWL or OHMSS.
  • Woah @ForYourEyesOnly you posted that right as I was posting that and you posted the same thing.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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  • Posts: 613
    why does everyone love OHMSS so much would you guys love it as much if it was an American in the lead role with the same performance?
  • I strongly dislike Lazenby in the role, but American actor would not be good for BOnd. And I'm from the states.
  • Posts: 613
    why are you guys ok with an Aussie playing and Englishman, but an American is out of the question it seems like we Americans get no chance to impress you guys we are written off before we get an opportunity.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,595
    I am an American and the idea of an American Bond doesn't appeal to me.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,817
    why are you guys ok with an Aussie playing and Englishman, but an American is out of the question it seems like we Americans get no chance to impress you guys we are written off before we get an opportunity.

    Frankly there are enough action blockbusters with Americans in the lead role.
    Although I do think OHMSS, whilst very good (my no. 8) is overrated...

    EDIT: On here.
  • Well I last had it ranked at like #17 or something. Which is probably a bit too low but I just don't think Lazenby is worth a damn.

    But I definitely recognize it as a very well executed film in many ways. But yeah, I'm surprised how little flack I've gotten for that over the last 2 years or whatever I've been on here.
  • Posts: 613
    what if an American gave us the best bond ever and that is not as far fetched as you think. I just don't understand why we Americans get categorized as stupid people it really bothers me.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,595
    "Best Bond Ever" is subjective, and we Americans are stupid. We certainly sound stupid. And Bond cannot sound stupid. So the accent helps in that way.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited February 2016 Posts: 2,252
    what movie averages the best out of us members? Does anyone know that?
    24 pts for 1st rank, 1 pt for 24th. After 74 member's rankings

    1. Casino Royale 1546
    2. From Russia with Love 1471
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1399
    4. Goldfinger 1322
    5. The Living Daylights 1225
    6. Skyfall 1211

    7. Goldeneye 1163
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me 1147
    9. Spectre 1104
    10. Dr No 1098
    11. Thunderball 1094

    12. Licence to Kill 1004
    13. For Your Eyes Only 986

    14. Octopussy 822
    15. Live and Let Die 789
    16. You Only Live Twice 727

    17. Quantum of Solace 702
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies 671
    19. The World is Not Enough 561
    20. The Man with the Golden Gun 511
    21. Moonraker 504

    22. Diamonds are Forever 494
    23. A View To A Kill 412
    24. Die Another Die 237

    Compared to 2012-2015 it is remarkably similar (182 rankings)
    1. From Russia with Love 3351
    2. Casino Royale 3340
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 2980
    4. Skyfall 2900
    5. Goldfinger 2840

    6. The Living Daylights 2650
    7. The Spy Who Loved Me 2647
    8. Goldeneye 2607
    9. Thunderball 2547
    10. Dr No 2524

    11. Licence to Kill 2242
    12. For Your Eyes Only 2156

    13. Live and Let Die 1963
    14. Octopussy 1788
    15. You Only Live Twice 1756

    16. Quantum of Solace 1600
    17. The World is Not Enough 1512
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies 1466
    19. The Man with the Golden Gun 1287
    20. Moonraker 1284
    21. Diamonds Are Forever 1179
    22. A View To A Kill 1085
    23. Die Another Day 608

    So despite the vocal few, general sentiments on QoS, SF, GE are consistent, and Spectre is above average in this forum and is sitting about 65% up the list which is around the RT score
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    I'm in the OHMSS-overrated group as well. It's good in many respects, but Lazenby is by far the worst Bond. And the pacing is abysmal.
  • I'm in the OHMSS-overrated group as well. It's good in many respects, but Lazenby is by far the worst Bond. And the pacing is abysmal.

    Very odd how so many people gloss over the pacing issues in OHMSS.

    I would argue that above all other problems, that the movie's pacing is the main reason casual fans aren't able to appreciate the film. The film can really drag in that hour long stretch from after Marc-Ange Draco to before the ski chase.
  • GBFGBF
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    I'm in the OHMSS-overrated group as well. It's good in many respects, but Lazenby is by far the worst Bond. And the pacing is abysmal.

    Very odd how so many people gloss over the pacing issues in OHMSS.

    I would argue that above all other problems, that the movie's pacing is the main reason casual fans aren't able to appreciate the film. The film can really drag in that hour long stretch from after Marc-Ange Draco to before the ski chase.

    Another reason why OHMSS just misses my top 10 is that the villain's plan is ridiculous, even for a Bond film. The whole Brainwashing of young ladies is just far-fetched. And finally Bond does not even kill Blofeld. So Blofeld could just use another radio station to contact the women.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    I'm in the OHMSS-overrated group as well. It's good in many respects, but Lazenby is by far the worst Bond. And the pacing is abysmal.

    Very odd how so many people gloss over the pacing issues in OHMSS.

    I would argue that above all other problems, that the movie's pacing is the main reason casual fans aren't able to appreciate the film. The film can really drag in that hour long stretch from after Marc-Ange Draco to before the ski chase.

    Yeah, the film feels like it's three hours long if you try to watch it from start to end. The middle section of the film is just so incredibly slow and poorly paced that it's hard to keep your interest (the first time I watched it, I skipped the safe cracking right up until Bond started escaping from Piz Gloria).

    I understand the cinematography, score and action are amazing, but that doesn't make up for the sheer ineptness of the pacing - quite possibly the worst of any Bond film. There's no Bond film that feels nearly as long or tedious as OHMSS, and that includes TB with all the underwater scenes.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    Have to agree there, @Thunderfinger.

    The fact that the film takes its time and builds up to an exhilarating pay-off is one of the reasons OHMSS is my favourite Bond film.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    Have to agree there, @Thunderfinger.

    The fact that the film takes its time and builds up to an exhilarating pay-off is one of the reasons OHMSS is my favourite Bond film.

    Exactly. And I did throw it a vote in the game, mind you.
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 1,595
    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    This is insulting. Even though I agree with you that the pacing isn't OHMSS' problem. Still, man. Harsh.

    "When you grow up" is just ageist and condescending. Whether you were joking around with him or not. Hardly a mature thing to say for someone so "grown up" and enlightened such as yourself.

    I'm not trying to be an asshole, for the record. Or do a moderator's job. But it's not hard to be respectful of dissenting views.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited February 2016 Posts: 7,969
    I am captivated every time I watch OHMSS, that the pace is the least of my worries. I want the film to be
    L O N G E R! =P~ @-)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I always say FRWL is objectively speaking the best Bond movie.
    Lately I wonder if it is not OHMSS after all.

    It is crowed at the top and even in the middle field but decisions have to be made and I have made mine by the end of 2015.

    My Top 10:

    1 SP
    2 GE
    3 OHMSS
    4 TLD
    5 CR
    6 OP
    7 FRWL
    8 FYEO
    9 GF
    10 LTK
  • I'd say that OHMSS is arguably a great film in many ways, but in a Bond film the most important element (my opinion) is Bond himself. And in that regard, it really fails in my book and falls flat on its face. I just rarely, if ever, buy Lazenby as Bond. In a few moments, yes. But largely, no.

    Personal opinion, but for me I can tell he was straight up not an actor. And he doesn't play Bond right - he's far too chipper, like a boy scout who is excited to learn how to set up camp with limited resources. He's excited. That's not Bond. There's none of the world weariness that Fleming's Bond, and many of the cinematic incarnations, exude.

    That said, he does surprise me pleasantly in a few moments, and this film has some of my favorite shots in the series ("casino" reflected on that pool ranks up there in my top 5 shots of the franchise. Stunning. Pure Bond.)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    This is insulting. Even though I agree with you that the pacing isn't OHMSS' problem. Still, man. Harsh.

    "When you grow up" is just ageist and condescending. Whether you were joking around with him or not. Hardly a mature thing to say for someone so "grown up" and enlightened such as yourself.

    I'm not trying to be an asshole, for the record. Or do a moderator's job. But it's not hard to be respectful of dissenting views.

    One must be harsh to get to those youngsters. At least I didn t hit them.

    At least not with any witnesses around.
  • Posts: 6,727
    Well OHMSS is no. 1 in my books! Give me Lazenby over Brossa anyday. No, he's not the greatest actor, but he had some great scenes. The resignation scene, trying to convince M to launch an attack on Blofelds lair, his first meeting with Tracy at the gambling tables, and the sequence with her after the explosive fight in her room, when he slaps her is excellent! I don't find it drags at all. it builds to a thrilling final section. Maibaums writing, John Glens action, Peter Hunts brilliant direction, John Barrys music, Michael Reeds cinematography, all add up to a perfect Bond film! Oh and a shout out for llsa Steppats Irma Bunt, when Bond discovers her in his bed, it made me jump! They really should have brought her character into Spectre!
  • OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    DN and FRWL are my third-favourite and second-favourite films in Connery's era respectively (9 and 6 on my list), and I find both of them become more and more suspenseful as they go on. Although I did and sometimes still do find them a little boring in their first halves.

    As far as I'm concerned, OHMSS does well in its first act, very poorly in its second act and is very good in its third act. I do not hate OHMSS, it is currently 8 on my list, it's just that by the time they are ice-skating, a good percentage of first-time viewers and lots of casual fans are going to tune out. There is no thrill or excitement in learning about allergy treatment and the brainwashing of girls by telling them to 'love chickens'. It drags. There, I said it. It is simply not fun to watch and therefore it fails in sustaining interest.

    That is my opinion, and you'll note that whilst I do not agree with yours I did not and do not intend to call you 'bonkers' or to instruct you to 'grow up'. Tell me how and in what way that was in any way deserved.

    I say this at the risk of sounding arrogant because it is difficult for people to criticise FRWL and particularly OHMSS on these boards without being shot down aggressively.
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  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    edited March 2016 Posts: 1,984
    OHMSS drags? My word, what nonsense.

    I once was a youngster myself, and felt the same way about DN and FRWL back then, so you are forgiven. You may change your mind when you grow up.

    I never saw OHMSS that way though, and I was 14 when I first saw it at a cinematic rerun.

    No, who am I kidding? You are just bonkers.

    I'm in my mid-thirties, and I have "grown up" since then - that's why I can now properly watch all of OHMSS without having to distract myself. And actually, while I did find DN rather slow at first, I never had that problem about FRWL. It's definitely slow, but for some reason it's captivating - OHMSS, at first, wasn't, and that could well be due to Lazenby's rather uncharismatic performance.

    Even to this day, though, half of the clinic scenes stretch the viewer's patience and the entire segment about hypnosis is frankly laughable at best. OHMSS is a very good film and it has many strengths, but pacing is not among them.

    I'm not seeing the need to be aggressive here. Everybody has differing opinions on films, and Bond is no exception. There's no need to attack other people for having different opinions. And while OHMSS is very highly respected on this board, and I can see why, there's a reason for why its box office (adjusted for inflation) performance was third-last in the entire franchise. You can't blame people from a later era with inferior attention spans for this, because that money was made back in 1969. There's obviously something that upset the appeal to casual fans.
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