SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • edited November 2015 Posts: 725
    bondjames wrote: »
    I already rank it the best Bond movie ever

    Wow. High praise indeed.

    Yes, imagine my shock and pure horror realising I had to dethrone Goldeneye to No 2 in my ranking :))
    Craig joins now the club of "two's" in my Top 10 with Connery, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig now all having 2 movies in there.
    1. SP
    2. GE
    3. OHMSS
    4. CR
    5. TLD
    6. OP
    7. FRWL
    8. GF
    9. LTK
    10. TND

    Good listing. I think I agree with most of your film order. I need to rewatch some of these though because I've forgotten to much stuff about some of them.
  • Like "Skyfall" and "Casino Royale", also "SPECTRE" is full of memorable, rather gory, goosebump-y scenes :-P (My highlights:
    The torture sequence. I WANNA BE BLOFELD! Using that device on all reviewers who gave the film 1 star or less. The SPECTRE-board meeting. The HINX-Bond fight sequence
    )
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    bondjames wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    A lot of dads and moms had to take the kids to see Peanuts here. I almost had to but mine decided on SP instead.
    Smart kids... You've trained them well.

    Lol thanks.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Like "Skyfall" and "Casino Royale", also "SPECTRE" is full of memorable, rather gory, goosebump-y scenes :-P (My highlights:
    The torture sequence. I WANNA BE BLOFELD! Using that device on all reviewers who gave the film 1 star or less. The SPECTRE-board meeting. The HINX-Bond fight sequence
    )

    I'd rather be
    the many hands caressing Craig's bronze body in the main titles :))
    at the same time I wanna be
    Bond doing Monica Bellucci hot damn :))

    that confuses the hell out of me :))
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,116


    Actually SP is still ahead of SF in the UK by 6% overall. Film only dropped 29% in its 2nd weekend.........tally as of now is just over a whopping $100 mil..............not bad for a little island eh?

    Yes........i'am sure many of the Mums and Dads who took their kids to see 'Peanuts' will go eventually to see SP..........in the US & Canada!

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    Very impressive :) .. I've seen SP twice I'm trying over here to boost that BO, I'm like a kite..... etc. etc.

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  • HASEROT wrote: »
    boxofficemojo lists Spectre's production budget at $245 million... this seems like a far cry from the rumored $300 million that was being reported during the production phase..... is this $245 million accurate?

    I assume its taking rebates and incentives into consideration. Maybe they did literally spend 300 but they got kickbacks. We know they got a few million from Mexico.
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    boxofficemojo lists Spectre's production budget at $245 million... this seems like a far cry from the rumored $300 million that was being reported during the production phase..... is this $245 million accurate?

    I assume its taking rebates and incentives into consideration. Maybe they did literally spend 300 but they got kickbacks. We know they got a few million from Mexico.

    All the reports i've seen lately do say that the final budget was $245 mil!

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    boxofficemojo lists Spectre's production budget at $245 million... this seems like a far cry from the rumored $300 million that was being reported during the production phase..... is this $245 million accurate?

    Those are the numbers the "marketing" department of EON probably gave.
    The movie has cost way over 300 million according to most sources, but they sure made a lot of Money with product placement.
    Also in those numbers the advertising campaign is not included which may easily have cost an additional 100 to 150 million.
  • Spectre topped the global box office with $117.8 million:

    http://variety.com/2015/film/box-office/spectre-global-box-office-1201636229/

  • Yes, Sony knocked off about 55 millions off the budget. Hence why the finale is set in London and played low key, and hence why you have all these TV style subplots with M, Q and Moneypenny. Economy.
  • HASEROT wrote: »
    boxofficemojo lists Spectre's production budget at $245 million... this seems like a far cry from the rumored $300 million that was being reported during the production phase..... is this $245 million accurate?

    Those are the numbers the "marketing" department of EON probably gave.
    The movie has cost way over 300 million according to most sources, but they sure made a lot of Money with product placement.
    Also in those numbers the advertising campaign is not included which may easily have cost an additional 100 to 150 million.

    Correct. The gross budget was in the "mid 300 millions'. However, what the studio actualy spends, was intended to be "under 250 million" the net budget.

    245 million is perfectly in line with the plan, according to the leaks.
  • Stamper wrote: »
    Yes, Sony knocked off about 55 millions off the budget. Hence why the finale is set in London and played low key, and hence why you have all these TV style subplots with M, Q and Moneypenny. Economy.

    No, that was not the case, see above.

  • HASEROT wrote: »
    boxofficemojo lists Spectre's production budget at $245 million... this seems like a far cry from the rumored $300 million that was being reported during the production phase..... is this $245 million accurate?

    Those are the numbers the "marketing" department of EON probably gave.
    The movie has cost way over 300 million according to most sources, but they sure made a lot of Money with product placement.
    Also in those numbers the advertising campaign is not included which may easily have cost an additional 100 to 150 million.

    Correct. The gross budget was in the "mid 300 millions'. However, what the studio actualy spends, was intended to be "under 250 million" the net budget.

    245 million is perfectly in line with the plan, according to the leaks.
    Exactly. Gross Budget (total cost) has been over 300 million. However, net Budget, which is Gross Budget - Tax breaks and product placement, has been about 240-250 million. In addition, the studios have spent about 120-130 million in prints and ads. all over the world. Of course, this amount doesn´t include partner ads, like Heineken, Gillette, Omega and so on.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    So between production budget, promotional costs, and the cinema chains cut, SPECTRE has to make 650 million to break even.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Not a jab against the film but it should not have cost 300 million.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    650 million to break even, correct.
    That's insane really if you think of it!!
    EON has to get the cost expenditure under control otherwise there could someday be a financial disaster.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    650 million to break even, correct.
    That's insane really if you think of it!!
    EON has to get the cost expenditure under control otherwise there could someday be a financial disaster.

    Yes these insane budgets put Bond's profitability at risk.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    650 million to break even, correct.
    That's insane really if you think of it!!
    EON has to get the cost expenditure under control otherwise there could someday be a financial disaster.

    Yes these insane budgets put Bond's profitability at risk.

    I don't know what the breakdown was on this budget, but I'd like to be able dissect it and analyze it. Then decide whether the return was up on the screen for each component.

    If the car chase and the plane chase were a massive part of the budget, then from my perspective, these were piss poor uses of money, because the tension just wasn't there in either scene.

    Mexico was worth at least 15% of the budget, because it delivered at least that much of the palpable tension and excitement of the whole film, despite being just the pretitles.

    London, on the other hand, had better not have cost more than 5% imho.

    MI-RN was made with $150m production budget so we're talking a $90m difference (net) while using the same locations almost.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    If SPECTRE was 2hrs instead of 2hrs 30m they could probably make it for $200 million. Then they wouldn't have to make $650 million to break even.

    An important factor here is Craig and Mendes. Craig is on his fourth film, it costs more each time keep bringing him back.
    JW saved money by hiring a no name director. Someone like Mendes will have to trouble finding work without Bond, so he will so get incentives to return.

    If with B25 EON recast with an unknown and bring in a new director who is a little more workmanlike and a little less autuer, and if they can keep the film under 2hrs, they could easily produce it for $160 million IMO. :)]
  • Posts: 4,281
    There is no relation between tension and budget IMHO, on another thread I posted a clip from Insomnia with a chase in a foggy forest which had more tension than anything in SP. But I created a thread about the car chase and some fans did not want tension and enjoyed the lighter touch.
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    I agree i honestly can't see why the total cost was $300million. Ridiculous. Better planning and less frivolous with the money they should have been able to make the final product for considerably less.

    They wasted 24million quid on Cars for THAT chase? 24 million? Wasteful at best, immoral at worst.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Matt007 wrote: »
    I agree i honestly can't see why the total cost was $300million. Ridiculous. Better planning and less frivolous with the money they should have been able to make the final product for considerably less.

    They wasted 24million quid on Cars for THAT chase? 24 million? Wasteful at best, immoral at worst.

    This is the key point imho. The planning was obviously terrible. Poor strategic vision at the start results in major problems down the road.

    If you want to use an airplane and a few supercars (which obviously costs a lot of money), try to at least up the ante a bit, please.....

    Their own back catalogue should have given them several ideas on how to be effective and not wasteful.
  • Matt007 wrote: »
    I agree i honestly can't see why the total cost was $300million. Ridiculous. Better planning and less frivolous with the money they should have been able to make the final product for considerably less.

    They wasted 24million quid on Cars for THAT chase? 24 million? Wasteful at best, immoral at worst.

    But that $24m will be firmly in the gross budget and not the net budget. So great planning.

  • NicNacNicNac Moderator
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    I disagree. I think they should have wrecked at least a couple more Aston martins, and maybe blown the helicopter to smithereens for good measure.
  • I think SP will need even more than 650 million to break even during its theatrical running, maybe 800 million. Anyway, don´t worry, SP is going to be profitable.
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    Record-Start in Austria, 15 percent better than Skyfall

    http://www.oe24.at/kino/Spectre-Bester-007-Start-Oesterreichs/211380618
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Some backtracking from our friend at Forbes, Mr. Mendelson (he of the worst Bond in 30 yrs fame):

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/09/spectre-box-office-007-reasons-why-the-gossip-failed-to-hurt-the-film/
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Some backtracking from our friend at Forbes, Mr. Mendelson (he of the worst Bond in 30 yrs fame):

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/09/spectre-box-office-007-reasons-why-the-gossip-failed-to-hurt-the-film/

    He is an SJW, you shouldn't expect him to be consistent.
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