SPECTRE Production Timeline

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  • Posts: 1,693
    If it's a "lesser film than Skyfall", then I know it is going to be a spectacular film. If I see a film critic slam a movie down, complaining about "cliche and convention", then I know it's going to be helluva of a film and less of a misery to drive myself through.

    YES, it sounds much more like my kind of 007 than SKYFALL was. Hope running high at this point.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    delfloria wrote: »
    If it's a "lesser film than Skyfall", then I know it is going to be a spectacular film. If I see a film critic slam a movie down, complaining about "cliche and convention", then I know it's going to be helluva of a film and less of a misery to drive myself through.

    YES, it sounds much more like my kind of 007 than SKYFALL was. Hope running high at this point.
    My sentiments exactly, sir.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    I think this is a movie for Bond fans. I think critics just reviewing as part of their job who enjoyed Skyfall because it was a very different Bond film will hate it. But a lot of Bond fan critics who saw it have said it's up there with Casino Royale if not better.
  • Posts: 421
    Yeah, remember film critics are basically the psychologist and the philosophers of the film world. FAR too deep. I saw something about "less emotional punch" than SF, which I'll be well glad of. Haven't read any of the actual reviews for fear of being spoilt, but it's all looking good so far.
  • Posts: 2,081
    Could everyone please keep the reviews, review links, review quotes and discussion about reviews in the review thread? Reviews - and therefore discussion about them - always reveal more stuff that some people want to know. I wouldn't want to have to abandon the whole forum, yet.
  • Posts: 11,119
    I think this is a movie for Bond fans. I think critics just reviewing as part of their job who enjoyed Skyfall because it was a very different Bond film will hate it. But a lot of Bond fan critics who saw it have said it's up there with Casino Royale if not better.

    I think so far the reviews are spot-on no?? I mean, "The Guardian" 5 stars? That's unique:


    IATA Magazine: "it rivals #CasinoRoyale and IMHO is better than #Skyfall":
    https://twitter.com/Rob_Coppinger/


    SFX Magazine: "Perfect hybrid of vintage Bond panache and Craig era grit. Almost the true 50th anniversary film three years late...":
    https://twitter.com/NickSetchfield/status/656938253346557952


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Scotland Herald: "Exhilarating Bond for these post-Snowden times":
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts_ents/13887147.Alison_Rowat_film_review__Spectre/


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Times: "Shall be giving #SPECTRE the full five-star treatment in The Times tomorrow":
    https://twitter.com/muirkate/status/656942845274824704


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, Evening Standard: "Until Innaritu's The Revenant comes out, Spectre shrugs off the weight of Skyfall's success and sets upon out-doing it.":
    http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/spectre-first-review-perhaps-even-better-than-skyfall-a3096316.html


    ■ ■ ■ □ □, TimeOut London: "Sam Mendes and Daniel Craig take James Bond for another spin, with messy but enjoyable results":
    http://www.timeout.com/london/film/spectre


    HeyUGuys: "They expanded the character [James Bond] far too much":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqesjQEAYcU


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Telegraph: "A swaggering show of confidence":
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/james-bond-spectre/review/


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Guardian: "James Bond is back, stylish, camp and sexily pro-Snowden":
    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/21/spectre-review-james-bond-is-back-stylish-camp-and-sexily-pro-snowden


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Daily Mail: "A movie that warrants ALL the hype with 007 returning to his murderous, glamorous best":
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-3283684/Spectre-review-Bond-s-white-suit-spectacular-joyride-film-BRIAN-VINER-says-Spectre-warrants-hype.html


    C-, IndieWire: ""Spectre," will please both the hardcore and the more casual fan":
    http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/review-sam-mendes-spectre-starring-daniel-craig-christoph-waltz-lea-seydoux-ralph-fiennes-20151021


    ■ ■ ■ □ □, The Independent: "Watching Bond be Bond, I didn't know whether to fist pump or facepalm":
    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/reviewing-spectre-while-having-a-crisis-of-masculinity-a6703636.html


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, ITV News: "Exciting action and laugh out loud funny":
    http://www.itv.com/news/2015-10-22/james-bond-spectre-review-spectacular-action-scenes-and-surprisingly-funny/


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Daily Mirror: "James Bond is back with a brutal blast as SPECTRE is rated best EVER":
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-reviews/james-bond-back-brutal-blast-6677940


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, BBC Radio 1: "Rhianna Dillon brings you the first Spectre review fresh from the screening in London's Leicester Square":
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKA6yycTBls


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Sun: "This is no typical Bond movie but it still delivers":
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/6703636/First-review-of-James-Bond-movie-Spectre.html


    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Daily Star: "Craig shines in another belting Bond flick":
    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/movies/471350/Film-review-SPECTRE-12A


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, DigitalSpy.co.uk: "Spectre will go down as Craig's stab at going full-blown BOND - big, bold and a bit more like Roger Moore.":
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a674869/spectre-review-daniel-craig-embraces-bonds-classic-formula-but-it-doesnt-pack-skyfalls-emotional-punch.html#~prPaTWaLateNbz


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, DenOfGeek.com: "Craig brings history and mortality to Bond; in SPECTRE's swerving, sinister plot, he remains its vital, beating heart":
    http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/spectre/37455/spectre-review


    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, TheArtsDesk.com: "Surely Daniel Craig can't quit just as he's getting so good at it?":
    http://www.theartsdesk.com/film/spectre

  • Posts: 11,119
    Tuulia wrote: »
    Could everyone please keep the reviews, review links, review quotes and discussion about reviews in the review thread? Reviews - and therefore discussion about them - always reveal more stuff that some people want to know. I wouldn't want to have to abandon the whole forum, yet.

    Just don't click them @Tuulia. I think this will only happen these first days. And as long as people do not post entire reviews in here and stick to a spoiler-free link, then I don't see any problem.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Perhaps you should start a thread of 'official reviews' and update them in the opening post? Rather than having to repost them.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 847
    Stop posting review here, execpt if there are new photos inside, it's just not the topic for this...
  • Posts: 2,081
    Tuulia wrote: »
    Could everyone please keep the reviews, review links, review quotes and discussion about reviews in the review thread? Reviews - and therefore discussion about them - always reveal more stuff that some people want to know. I wouldn't want to have to abandon the whole forum, yet.

    Just don't click them @Tuulia. I think this will only happen these first days. And as long as people do not post entire reviews in here and stick to a spoiler-free link, then I don't see any problem.

    Right. Trying to piss me off on purpose, are you? You think I'm entirely stupid? Of course I didn't click. But links, headlines, any discussion and commentary give away stuff, how difficult is it to get that? I made a simple and entirely reasonable request and your reaction was to go on and on about reviews, and tell me not to click - I scrolled past as fast as I could since I noticed what you were doing. Why do people have to go on about reviews in this thread when there's a review thread specifically for that purpose?

    I'm hereby abandoning this thread as well. Asking for any co-operation is clearly useless.
  • RC7RC7
    edited October 2015 Posts: 10,512
    Tuulia wrote: »
    Could everyone please keep the reviews, review links, review quotes and discussion about reviews in the review thread? Reviews - and therefore discussion about them - always reveal more stuff that some people want to know. I wouldn't want to have to abandon the whole forum, yet.

    Just don't click them @Tuulia. I think this will only happen these first days. And as long as people do not post entire reviews in here and stick to a spoiler-free link, then I don't see any problem.

    If people read them they will then comment in this thread. The links don't need to be in here.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Hmm. Didn't really like Skyfall. Not sure why everyone praises it like its a top 5 Bond film.. Casino Royale was much better in my opinion. I even prefer Quantum over skyfall.. Just feel like CR and QOS had more going on.

    Judging by the trailers and clips I don't see how SP could possibly be a lesser film than SF?? There's more action sequences, we have the badass car, Waltz, Hinx, three hot Bond girls, a classic Bond vibe, seems like there might be gadgets, and Bond goes to some crazy locations with badass sets.

    How the hell is this a lesser film than SF??? I blame Sam Smith! LOL

    If it is indeed not as "good" as Skyfall it undoubtably will have to do with the script again. Many critics speak of plot holes or one twist too many, off the peg plot lines etc.

    Furthermore several have stated it feels more like a successor to QOS than SF, not really comforting either...
  • Posts: 1,693
    When are people going to realize that the way to stay spoiler free is simply stay off line. It's not that hard.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    delfloria wrote: »
    When are people going to realize that the way to stay spoiler free is simply stay off line. It's not that hard.

    What about the people who want the 'headlines', but not the details. I don't think it's much to ask for people to keep this thread relatively spoiler free. There are plenty of other threads to spoil the movie in. I'm not speaking for myself here, but others. Any US residents who regularly use this board shouldn't have to leave completely for two weeks, if everyone can keep themselves in check in 'one' thread.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    Perhaps you should start a thread of 'official reviews' and update them in the opening post? Rather than having to repost them.

    Hey @RC7. I just created a new topic, like you suggested. With short spoiler-free headlines, only ratings in stars if available, and a corresponding link.

    I think that's the best way to create such a spoiler-free topic. I keep updating the opening post, so it will accumulate more.

    Here's the link:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/13462/spectre-official-critics-review-topic-accumulative-topic-no-spoilers-just-links#latest
  • Posts: 1,693
    I was half joking but even headlines can contain spoilers at this point. Yes, it would be great if this thread remained as spoiler free as possible, for everyone's sake. SPECTRE comes back in this movie................. I just couldn't help myself.
  • Posts: 11,119
    I think our dear @DoubleoNothing, A.K.A. Ben Williams, deserves a big, fat mention here :-):

    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, MI6-HQ.com, @DoubleoNothing: "Whilst 'Skyfall' was a critical and financial success, there were many amongst the dedicated fans that felt it veered too widely from the classic James Bond mould and simply had too many contrivances..[.........]..With 'SPECTRE', Mendes has really flexed his directing muscles. It is fair to say that Mendes is more at home with actors and eliciting performance than with cinematic savoir-faire, but with 'SPECTRE' there are some beautiful flourishes that really show that Mendes is far more than an actor's director, far more than a theatre director who has transposed his craft to the screen.":
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/spectre-review-spoiler-free?t=&s=&id=03994
  • Posts: 11,119
    I think it's now......safe to say that THREE out of Craig's four Bond films are not just OK....but perhaps even very good...bordering 'exquisit'.

    Isn't that very...Connery-esque? Daniel Craig needs to frikkin' stay. Give the man more money.
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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I think it's now......safe to say that THREE out of Craig's four Bond films are not just OK....but perhaps even very good...bordering 'exquisit'.

    Isn't that very...Connery-esque? Daniel Craig needs to frikkin' stay. Give the man more money.

    safe to say :))
    sure, without having seen the movie...

    at the moment it looks more than another QOS than CR, judging from the many reviews
  • This is being far better recieved than QoS, just not the universal acclaim that SF and CR got.
  • Posts: 11,119
    I think it's now......safe to say that THREE out of Craig's four Bond films are not just OK....but perhaps even very good...bordering 'exquisit'.

    Isn't that very...Connery-esque? Daniel Craig needs to frikkin' stay. Give the man more money.

    safe to say :))
    sure, without having seen the movie...

    at the moment it looks more than another QOS than CR, judging from the many reviews

    You are delirious. At this moment I would say this could happen:

    95% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "CASINO ROYALE"
    92% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "SKYFALL"
    90% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "SPECTRE"
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    65% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "QUANTUM OF SOLACE"


    Now THAT'S a bunch of realism and objectivity I am throwing in your face right now :-). It's already more of a fact that "SPECTRE"s RT-rating is a neatly 6% removed from "Casino Royale", but a whopping 25% removed from "Quantum Of Solace". So you're talking nonsense.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Metacritic has it at 70, RT at 7.2



    I know it's early to tell.

    Anyway, I'm glad the reviews are mostly good. Nowhere near the euphoria in 2012 though.

    And many saying SP is not as good as SF leaves me worried :)) (a tiny bit) :))
  • Some wonder if SPECTRE is DC's Thunderball. Well, here's the cover of *today*'s Inrockuptibles special issue :

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  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Metacritic has it at 70, RT at 7.2



    I know it's early to tell.

    Anyway, I'm glad the reviews are mostly good. Nowhere near the euphoria in 2012 though.

    And many saying SP is not as good as SF leaves me worried :)) (a tiny bit) :))

    Let's be honest, where a lot of people were waiting to love SF, a lot were waiting to hate SP. There's a video, which I now can't find, of four blokes doing a quick review outside the Odeon. The guy in the middle is basically gagging to say how he doesn't like it, not with a look of disappointment, but a look of restrained glee. There are too many people like that these days, even Bond fans. It's laughable. If I were to not like a film my overriding emotion would be disappointment. Some people just revel in baselessly knocking things.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    Metacritic has it at 70, RT at 7.2



    I know it's early to tell.

    Anyway, I'm glad the reviews are mostly good. Nowhere near the euphoria in 2012 though.

    And many saying SP is not as good as SF leaves me worried :)) (a tiny bit) :))

    Let's be honest, where a lot of people were waiting to love SF, a lot were waiting to hate SP. There's a video, which I now can't find, of four blokes doing a quick review outside the Odeon. The guy in the middle is basically gagging to say how he doesn't like it, not with a look of disappointment, but a look of restrained glee. There are too many people like that these days, even Bond fans. It's laughable. If I were to not like a film my overriding emotion would be disappointment. Some people just revel in baselessly knocking things.

    Agree. They didn't even have anything interesting to say.

  • Posts: 183
    RC7 wrote: »
    Metacritic has it at 70, RT at 7.2



    I know it's early to tell.

    Anyway, I'm glad the reviews are mostly good. Nowhere near the euphoria in 2012 though.

    And many saying SP is not as good as SF leaves me worried :)) (a tiny bit) :))

    Let's be honest, where a lot of people were waiting to love SF, a lot were waiting to hate SP. There's a video, which I now can't find, of four blokes doing a quick review outside the Odeon. The guy in the middle is basically gagging to say how he doesn't like it, not with a look of disappointment, but a look of restrained glee. There are too many people like that these days, even Bond fans. It's laughable. If I were to not like a film my overriding emotion would be disappointment. Some people just revel in baselessly knocking things.

    True, it's a British tradition to build something/someone up, then knock them down. I also wonder if some critics realised they over-rated Skyfall. When you say Skyfall is flawless, 5 stars and the best Bond ever, it doesn't give you much room to manouvre when a better film comes along. It's possible you would feel even more focussed to "find" the flaws. Not saying that's what has happened with any reviews, just that it could.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    You know the best people to review this film are the fans, after public release that's when to check for scores on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes etc.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Metacritic has it at 70, RT at 7.2



    I know it's early to tell.

    Anyway, I'm glad the reviews are mostly good. Nowhere near the euphoria in 2012 though.

    And many saying SP is not as good as SF leaves me worried :)) (a tiny bit) :))

    You are slightly delirious. And your negativity is spinning slightly out of control :-). At this moment I would say this could happen:

    95% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "CASINO ROYALE"
    92% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "SKYFALL"
    90% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "SPECTRE"
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    65% TomatoMeter RottenTomatoes: "QUANTUM OF SOLACE"


    Now that's a bit more realism and objectivity I am throwing at you :-). It's already more of a fact that "SPECTRE"s RT-rating is a neatly 6% removed from "Casino Royale", but a whopping 25% removed from "Quantum Of Solace". So you're talking nonsense.

    By the way, I don't know why you keep referring to the average rating, as the TomatoMeter is the one to look out for. Secondly, only 7 reviews are in on MetaCritic.
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