The "Problem Eliminator" Thread - Are Bond Films Getting Too Big?

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    w2bond wrote: »
    Let's look at the actor's last films
    Connery was 41
    Lazenby 30
    Moore 58
    Dalton 43?
    Brosnan 49
    Craig 47 currently.

    I believe he's contracted for one more then it's open contract. Might be getting a bit older after Bond 25, at the rate the films are coming out these days

    Connery was already 6 films in at that point though, and shooting was a little different as well.

    Lazenby left

    Moore hung around probably a little too long, but he and Cubby had a great relationship (dare i say, almost like how Mike and Babs have with Craig)

    Dalton - left because it took too long to get the next film going..

    Brosnan fulfilled his contract but could've gone 1 more film had EON not made the choice to reboot with CR.

    age is just a number, and at 47, Craig is in much better shape than any of the previous actors were at the same time - given Craig's physical condition, he could still pull off the physicality even into his 50s..... but.... i wouldn't go much further than early 50s with a Bond actor.. just my opinion.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    Let's look at the actor's last films
    Connery was 41
    Lazenby 30
    Moore 58
    Dalton 43?
    Brosnan 49
    Craig 47 currently.

    I believe he's contracted for one more then it's open contract. Might be getting a bit older after Bond 25, at the rate the films are coming out these days

    Moore hung around probably a little too long, but he and Cubby had a great relationship (dare i say, almost like how Mike and Babs have with Craig)

    age is just a number

    Second point is true, was just making an observation :)

    As for your first point, maybe they'll hang on to him for that reason, they (and we) love him and there's no commercial reason not to keep him
  • WTF!
    Has everyone just dropped acid or something. Some random guy drops in and has a friend who over heard a conversation stating that Spectre will be Daniel Craig's last Bond film. No names of the people concerned, but he does work in the film industry...because he typed it and said it must be true. That way it makes it true. 8-|
    And all those Craig fans getting their knickers in a twist because someone said Daniel Craig would finish with Bond after Spectre. Seriously.
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    Now I can't of course say for sure that any of this is true or untrue. Though my BS meter has maxed out.
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    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm making preparations to become the next president of the USA.
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    Without question against this rumour. DC without a doubt I believe will do Bond 25. He has massive input into the movies he makes as Bond.

    MGW and Babs love him in the role, he is enjoying himself in the role so to this degree I am confident that DC WILL make another movie. After that he may well decide to call it a day.

    On a separate note the next Bond will be young again so ruling out Elba and Lewis, especially seeing as Bond films could have a gap now of 3 years between them?
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    Just to add, I have also heard from one or two associates that this might be Craig's last film. Like many here, I sincerely hope he does decide to stick around for one more - but I suspect the big issue will be who directs Bond 25 - If Mendes wants to do a third film, I think Craig will do it - if not, and with the huge physical demands the role requires and with Craig heading towards 50, he might just bow out.

    Connery started to make noises about leaving the role after TB. Moore talked about quitting after MR. So there is probably talk from Craig about ending now and on a high note.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Whoever the next Bond will be is definitely an 80s baby.

    I was just watching the PTS to SF and remembered how good it was. With SP looking to dwarf SF in every conceivable way, even if Craig wanted to leave, I dont think the public will allow him to leave lol.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I agree, that I think D Craig will do Bond 25. After that ....who knows. ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    Hi everyone, I understand how this is going to look as a new user posted the comment in the first place but I have been diligently following the Spectre production and have to say I am quite excited.

    My thoughts on this matter are similar to many other peoples thoughts that depending on the financial success of Spectre, this will determine whether Daniel Craig returns. If Spectre is the hit that I and many others suspect it will be I believe we are in for another Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes film. My understanding of how the film industry works is that any new production company that signs on to do a Bond film would want to guarantee their investment. In my opinion what better way to do this than bring back what has worked for the past two films. It is obvious that money and time are no object when trying to get the actors and directors the bond franchise craves. Therefore as I have read the December draft of the screenplay, followed this thread and others about bond and kept up with all news items in my opinion we will get one more Daniel Craig film. I for one hope this is another Sam Mendes film as well, as the trust he and Craig receive means large budgets. Which as we have seen with the Spectre coverage will translate very nicely onto the big screen.
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    With @ColonelSun stating that Craig's departure after this one is definitely in the cards, then in has to be more than just a wild rumour. By the way, if the producers and Craig all are sure that Craig won't return after Spectre, then his departure will be announced officially sometime before the release of Spectre (probably pretty close to it), right? I mean it would be great publicity!
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.

    Off topic, but I'd rather see a non British actor. British villains are just so clichés now.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.

    Off topic, but I'd rather see a non British actor. British villains are just so clichés now.

    I agree on Brits playing Brits as bad guys being a cliche. However, I don't mind Brits playing another nationality (accent and all) as a bad guy, as Irons did in DH3
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.

    Off topic, but I'd rather see a non British actor. British villains are just so clichés now.

    I agree on Brits playing Brits as bad guys being a cliche. However, I don't mind Brits playing another nationality (accent and all) as a bad guy, as Irons did in DH3

    He was one of the very few good things about this movie. But even a Brit playing a villain of another nationality is a bit of a cliché in itself. I say this and I usually suggest British actors for Bond villains, but it is because I know them more. I love how pretty much all major villains during the Craig era have been played by non Anglo Saxon actors.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    That's true. I've liked all of the actors who've played major villains in DC's era so far (including Almaric as the smarmy/oily Greene) and I'm sure I'll feel the same way after SP. They have all been refreshingly different and charismatic.
  • edited June 2015 Posts: 1,661
    If Daniel Craig's knee injury is permanent and it's going to impact the rest of life I suppose he could give up Bond. If the pain was terrible, that is, and he needed painkillers for the rest of his life.

    It's unlikely a knee injury fully mended would be an obstacle to him returning but you never know, perhaps the injury is more serious than we know.
    I don't think the fact that he hasn't made any films since SF is a deterring factor, since almost all of his films outside Bond have flopped. Bond maintains his security and bankability as a star.

    I tend to agree. Assuming he is fit I can't see a reason why he wouldn't want to do one more film. It's another big pay day and once he's left Bond he's never going to reap that sort of fee. I'm sure he'll have a successful post-Bond career but i doubt he'll be the leading star in big budget Hollywood films. He might as well do one more (subject to his health).


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I don't think the fact that he hasn't made any films since SF is a deterring factor, since almost all of his films outside Bond have flopped. Bond maintains his security and bankability as a star.

    I tend to agree. Assuming he is fit I can't see a reason why he wouldn't want to do one more film. It's another big pay day and once he's left Bond he's never going to reap that sort of fee. I'm sure he'll have a successful post-Bond career but i doubt he'll be the leading star in big budget Hollywood films. He might as well do one more (subject to his health).

    The point I was making above about him not making movies since SF is not that he wasn't able to. It was that he didn't want to.

    I really think Bond is the exception for DC. He's really an off the radar actor and personality, and seems extremely uncomfortable with any promotional activities. He's made a few big films, but I don't see him as craving any of this really. He's like Dalton in that respect.

    If SP is indeed his last, it will be 100% his choice for creative reasons. Not EON's.
  • edited June 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Craig's 2012 Rolling Stone interview don't show him in a particularly good light:
    The 44-year-old actor told Rolling Stone magazine in its November cover story that the thrill that comes with a license to kill is gone. Or never was there to begin with. “I’ve been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it,” Craig said, “but they won’t let me go, and I’ve agreed to do a couple more, but let’s see how this one does, because business is business and if the sh– goes down, I’ve got a contract that somebody will happily wipe their ass with.”

    Craig thinks Skyfall is a good film, but you get the idea he doesn’t really respect it. “It’s got a lightness of touch and wink to it, because, after all, this is a James Bond movie, for f–k’s sake.” His comments could be construed as a tad ungrateful, considering the relative obscurity he knew pre-Bond and the non-Bond misfires he’s starred in since becoming 007 (The Invasion, Dream House, Cowboys & Aliens).

    http://www.ew.com/article/2012/11/09/daniel-craig-007-regret

    If any of his comments were 100 percent genuine/honest and not done for publicity or for comedy, then I'd say there is a realistic chance he will call it a day after SPECTRE.

    I personally found his comments unnecessary and vulgar but hey, just my opinion. Brosnan called the producers "f*****s" (after he was replaced) which wasn't that nice.



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    bondjames wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I don't think the fact that he hasn't made any films since SF is a deterring factor, since almost all of his films outside Bond have flopped. Bond maintains his security and bankability as a star.

    I tend to agree. Assuming he is fit I can't see a reason why he wouldn't want to do one more film. It's another big pay day and once he's left Bond he's never going to reap that sort of fee. I'm sure he'll have a successful post-Bond career but i doubt he'll be the leading star in big budget Hollywood films. He might as well do one more (subject to his health).

    The point I was making above about him not making movies since SF is not that he wasn't able to. It was that he didn't want to.

    I really think Bond is the exception for DC. He's really an off the radar actor and personality, and seems extremely uncomfortable with any promotional activities. He's made a few big films, but I don't see him as craving any of this really. He's like Dalton in that respect.

    If SP is indeed his last, it will be 100% his choice for creative reasons. Not EON's.

    Yet Craig is far more comfortable with all the baggages that come with Bond than Dalton or Brosnan ever were. And he has far more creative control than any other actor in the role. My bet is that he might play a role in choosing his successor when the time comes.

    Anyway, next topic?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.

    Off topic, but I'd rather see a non British actor. British villains are just so clichés now.

    I agree on Brits playing Brits as bad guys being a cliche. However, I don't mind Brits playing another nationality (accent and all) as a bad guy, as Irons did in DH3

    Or Rickman as Hans for that matter. I would completely lose my shit if Rickman was cast as a Bond villain.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Hans!!!
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Off topic, but seeing that gif above makes me realize how badly I want Jeremy Irons as the next villain. I would have been ok with him as Blofeld as well.

    Off topic, but I'd rather see a non British actor. British villains are just so clichés now.

    I agree on Brits playing Brits as bad guys being a cliche. However, I don't mind Brits playing another nationality (accent and all) as a bad guy, as Irons did in DH3

    Or Rickman as Hans for that matter. I would completely lose my shit if Rickman was cast as a Bond villain.

    It is twenty years too late. Alan Rickman would have have been ideal for the Brosnan era: British veteran actor.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I am confident Craig will do Bond 25 and Bond 26. I think Mendes will come back for B25 to complete his trilogy. As for B26, there are several directors EON can think of to really interest Craig in doing a 6th and final one (Chris Nolan* or Danny Boyle* as director would seriously tempt Craig in continuing post-Mendes).

    *Not saying these are the best choices, but IMO Craig would love working them with them.
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    I am confident Craig will do Bond 25 and Bond 26. I think Mendes will come back for B25 to complete his trilogy. As for B26, there are several directors EON can think of to really interest Craig in doing a 6th and final one (Chris Nolan* or Danny Boyle* as director would seriously tempt Craig in continuing post-Mendes).

    *Not saying these are the best choices, but IMO Craig would love working them with them.

    I'm confident about B25, not after though. I think if SPECTRE hits a billion again, Mendes will complete his "Dark Knight" trilogy (as he keeps comparing himself with Nolan's franchise) with Bond 25 and Craig, and then they'll both be done. Which I am completely satisfied with.

    Perhaps that is what has brought up all this discussion, maybe there are talks about Dan quitting after SPECTRE, but perhaps they mean the SPECTRE storyline.. which very well could continue into B25. I know they have clearly said he will be done after "SPECTRE" and I'm adding 100% speculation, but its really just what makes sense when you look at what they are setting up (SPECTRE for a possible B25 return), the Nolan comaprison (Mendes staying for a trilogy), and Craig being satisfied in the role (every interview ever).
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    Playing Bond now is a very different game than it was in the days of Connery or Moore. The schedules are very much longer and the physical demands on the lead actor are, to put it mildly, v extreme. Craig gives his all, but there are limits, and, apart from exploring the character far deeper than any of the past actors, Craig has been 100 per cent committed to the publicity monster machine which is Bond. So, IMO, he might have decided he has little left to give to the role now. If so, let us respect that.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I don't believe any of these rumors. The only way I'll believe it is if Craig himself publicly states He's no longer interested in playing the role.
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Playing Bond now is a very different game than it was in the days of Connery or Moore. The schedules are very much longer and the physical demands on the lead actor are, to put it mildly, v extreme. Craig gives his all, but there are limits, and, apart from exploring the character far deeper than any of the past actors, Craig has been 100 per cent committed to the publicity monster machine which is Bond. So, IMO, he might have decided he has little left to give to the role now. If so, let us respect that.

    And this is why his successor will not be some 40something actor. It is very unlikely anyway, if they want someone to keep the role for a while.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Playing Bond now is a very different game than it was in the days of Connery or Moore. The schedules are very much longer and the physical demands on the lead actor are, to put it mildly, v extreme. Craig gives his all, but there are limits, and, apart from exploring the character far deeper than any of the past actors, Craig has been 100 per cent committed to the publicity monster machine which is Bond. So, IMO, he might have decided he has little left to give to the role now. If so, let us respect that.

    And this is why his successor will not be some 40something actor. It is very unlikely anyway, if they want someone to keep the role for a while.

    But how can they pick, for example, an actor in their early-mid 30s to play the part if the next one takes place in the same time frame and universe as Casino, Quantum, Skyfall, and Spectre? It won't make sense to have a Bond looking noticeably younger than Craig in a movie taking place not long after his era.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Playing Bond now is a very different game than it was in the days of Connery or Moore. The schedules are very much longer and the physical demands on the lead actor are, to put it mildly, v extreme. Craig gives his all, but there are limits, and, apart from exploring the character far deeper than any of the past actors, Craig has been 100 per cent committed to the publicity monster machine which is Bond. So, IMO, he might have decided he has little left to give to the role now. If so, let us respect that.

    And this is why his successor will not be some 40something actor. It is very unlikely anyway, if they want someone to keep the role for a while.

    But how can they pick, for example, an actor in their early-mid 30s to play the part if the next one takes place in the same time frame and universe as Casino, Quantum, Skyfall, and Spectre? It won't make sense to have a Bond looking noticeably younger than Craig in a movie taking place not long after his era.

    They have been doing so in the previous continuity.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    It's not that big of a deal. Connery left, Lazenby came, Connery came back and then left again. Dalton took over from a pushing 60 year old Moor. Just roll with it.
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    Jamie Dornan has just entered my list of future 007 candidates along with Hardy.
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