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  • doubleoego wrote: »
    Seriously, I think these guys get a raw deal based on unfounded hearsay and misinformation.

    There's also the fact that almost no one would dare to say they can act better than..., no one would dare to say they can light better than..., no one would dare to say they can direct better than..., no one would dare to say they can compose better than..., no one would dare to say they can make a stunt better than... etc. But tell a better story ? Almost everyone :)

  • 007InVT007InVT Classified
    edited August 2014 Posts: 893
    For the love of God, why can't the Broccolis pony up for a good writer/director team like Christopher Nolan and his brother Jonathan.

    Or the Matthew Vaughan/Jane Goldman combination?

    Danny Boyle even.

    Sure, P&W were credited with the CR script but how much of that was Paul Haggis' efforts?

    Oh well, back to literary 007 for me now.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Bounine wrote: »
    LOL. I knew it - "substantial changes" to the script. I bet that means a fair bit more action unfortunately coupled with cheesy humour. If Logan did scribe a gritty, cold, dark screenplay with good character movement it would have been right up my alley. It won't happen though in Bond films. Each film must pretty much be a carbon copy of the next unfortunately but that's Bond I guess. I don't have the excitement that I used to for these movies. My interest diminishes by the day. I would have preferred to have Campbell as director. Mendes I think, wants to make Bond films more in the Goldfinger mold where as I prefer Bond flicks more along the lines of Dr No, FRWL, OHMSS, TLD, LTK and Casino Royale.

    I don't quite agree. I have a bit more confidence in Lenses Craig and P&W as a team. Logan was never my choice. The combo produced a good script for Skyfall so I haven't written anything off... keep holding on to Mendes as the helm and his talent to know and tell a good story. We want a great movie and they want a great movie... so hope they stay pumped and ready to go.. but yay finally a shooting script.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    And i meant Mendes not lenses ...stupid autocorrect.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited August 2014 Posts: 2,630
    007InVT wrote: »
    For the love of God, why can't the Broccolis pony up for a good writer/director team like Christopher Nolan and his brother Jonathan.

    Or the Matthew Vaughan/Jane Goldman combination?

    Danny Boyle even.

    Sure, P&W were credited with the CR script but how much of that was Paul Haggis' efforts?

    Oh well, back to literary 007 for me now.

    This can help you.
    I have no idea why P&W have got such a bad wrap over the years. They are not the best writers but they can hardly be blamed for the the more banal recent entries.

    - I for one really love TWINE and think their contribution on the script was great. Their draft of the script is online and it reads very well.
    - DAD was not their fault. They were working with an unruly director who really didn't know what he was doing. Film is director's medium and I know for fact both P&W regret how DAD came together as Tamahori really bulldozed down a lot of their ideas.
    - CR was pretty much all P&W except for the more meaty character segments. For me the plot and structure of CR is rather good not brilliant but good. I actually think that Haggis was the one who gave that film the magic it has.
    -QOS was affected by the writer's strike and ironically after saving CR I think Haggis pressed the self-destruct button here. There is a little too much Haggis in the script.
    - From what I've heard P&W came up with the story and structure of SF but all the dialogue is Logan's. If that is the case than the actual plotting of SF is first rate and the story they came up with is rather marvellous.

    I'm glad they're back. They know the Bond brand well and getting them to bring out the 'Bond' in a Bond script always felt like an inevitable thing. I think it's likely that they will use the next 4 months to keep working on the script and it's even more likely Logan will return as well.

  • edited August 2014 Posts: 4,619
    We have known for a while that Bond 24 will me shot on film but what if it ended up being partially shot in IMAX 70 mm? How great would that be? Only a handful of feature films have been partially shot in the IMAX format so far, like The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises or the upcoming Interstellar.

    (Yes, Skyfall was the first Bond film to be released in IMAX cinemas but non of it was shot in the IMAX format.)
  • Well, you're the one who claim to know for weeks who will be Bond 24's DOP, so you should know :) Me, when I said I had had very bad hearsay about Bond 24's development status, I made it IMO quite clear I had info from the previz side, and it lasted only a few days before rumours about the script were made public... We still don't know your source, and we still haven't heard about the DOP, though.

    Also, @JWESTBROOK, I had a look at the summary on the very first page. There's only one thing I would remove for sure from the list, that's the "crazy rumor" about Charlotte Rampling. In fact, it wasn't even a rumor, it was from a parody website who keeps on using "XXX is the next Bond girl" template to create automatically their false reports.

    Ie : http://en.mediamass.net/search?q="next+Bond+girl"

    So it's an Internet artefact : some randomly generated paper is taken by Google's algorithms as "news", but no one actually wrote it based on an actual rumor.

    For instance :

    http://en.mediamass.net/people/scarlett-johansson/james-bond.html



  • Posts: 4,619
    very bad hearsay about Bond 24's development status

    Is it safe to say that the situation is not that dire anymore?
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 5,745
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    And i meant Mendes not lenses ...stupid autocorrect.

    For the future keep in mind you can simply edit your post.. even on mobile.

    And @Suivez_ce_parachute , I've already stated no character deaths will be mentioned. I know it was just an example though, but if it is the promotional material it is okay to discuss. So Tanner dying in this case would be fine. The original rumors would be spoiler tagged and once it was revealed in the trailer and plot synopsis as Bonds motivation it would be open game.
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 17,241
    A new article in Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, shares some news about possible filming in Norway:
    http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/08/02/kultur/film/james_bond/34592989/

    To sum up the article, the Australian filmmaker Jason Roberts, currently living on Svalbard, confirmed to the newspaper that the Bond producers were considering the island group as a possible filming location. They requested image material, but later chose to use the Austrian alps.

    Roberts tells that the producers were looking for a location fitting Svalbard, but recent script changes (Purvis and Wade?), made Svalbard unsuitable.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Ohhhhh. How I would have loved for Norway to actually been filmed. Sigh ...

    Austria has snow and will be quite lovely. Norway would have been special.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited August 2014 Posts: 9,117
    Bounine wrote: »
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Strelik wrote: »
    Logan makes everything really dull and somber, I'm glad Purvis and Wade are rewriting it.
    The one undeniable failing of Purvis and Wade is their less-than-stellar dialogue. Let's hope Mendes utilizes an unaccredited script doctor to "polish" this second draft by P + W. Then again, there are alternate possibilities... One of the reasons Skyfall's dialogue was quite smooth was that Mendes reportedly had the cast "lightly redo" their lines in script rehearsals.

    I just hope they do not use the dialogue by P+W verbatim.

    I think they forgot to go back and fix the "VW Beetles, I think" line. Or maybe Naomi is just that lame and nobody wanted to tell her. :P
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Strelik wrote: »
    Logan makes everything really dull and somber, I'm glad Purvis and Wade are rewriting it.
    The one undeniable failing of Purvis and Wade is their less-than-stellar dialogue. Let's hope Mendes utilizes an unaccredited script doctor to "polish" this second draft by P + W. Then again, there are alternate possibilities... One of the reasons Skyfall's dialogue was quite smooth was that Mendes reportedly had the cast "lightly redo" their lines in script rehearsals.

    I just hope they do not use the dialogue by P+W verbatim.

    I think they forgot to go back and fix the "VW Beetles, I think" line. Or maybe Naomi is just that lame and nobody wanted to tell her. :P

    "V W Beetles" didn't even need to be mentioned. The fact that the cars were there was enough! Appalling.

    The thing I dont get with that is what exactly are VW getting out of that mention which is surely costing them millions?

    I can understand that Aston, Bollinger and Heineken pay top dollar because they can show shots from the film of Bond looking cool using their products but what can VW say after that?

    'When James Bond wants to knock some cars off a train and write them off whilst his companion appallingly delivers an awful line his car of choice is a VW'? Why is that going to sell more Beetles? Is the Bond association really so good for your brand that even having him smashing your product up is sufficient to have it fly off the shelves?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    A new article in Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, shares some news about possible filming in Norway:
    http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/08/02/kultur/film/james_bond/34592989/

    To sum up the article, the Australian filmmaker Jason Roberts, currently living on Svalbard, confirmed to the newspaper that the Bond producers were considering the island group as a possible filming location. They requested image material, but later chose to use the Austrian alps.

    Roberts tells that the producers were looking for a location fitting Svalbard, but recent script changes (Purvis and Wade?), made Svalbard unsuitable.

    I'd like to know what changes and why they make Norway a no-go. Austria seems to be firming up, which is great, as long as good use is made of the snow.
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    We have seen relatively little of Austria, so it would be a good thing if the country shows up again. I would prefer Scandinavia, but I always thought it was going to be a long shot.
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 2,015
    Is it safe to say that the situation is not that dire anymore?
    Is it safe to say that now that Baz Bamigboye has written there were "fire-alarm calls" about the script, now there are only two options left about all the comments I made about Logan definitely not working anymore on the Bond script (and I started this a few days before his interview) : I was onto something (and no, I wasn't told explicitly Logan had left, I just added 1 and 1 with the hearsay and what I could find publicly), or I'm just the luckiest mythomaniac here.

    Now, what are your sources for Hoyte van Hontema being the DOP of Bond 24 ? I don't want a name, just a way. Me, you could guess from various not so subtle hints that it was through the contacts I had in the VFX industry. And well, there were French previz artists working on Skyfall, I can prove that if I had too, but I'm afraid they'll be considered as leakers by some so it's a very dangerous game to play and I won't give names here :) I could also give papers with my name on it to prove I worked in that field a few years ago, but I'd have to give my name too :)

    Hoyte van Hontema's future is empty on IMDB, is that your "source" ?

    Sorry to be harsh, but it's a bit like the Scandinavia nonsense a few hours ago : a few people who read Wikipedia for 5 seconds claim to know more than someone who actually live in this part the world. Here, we've got a few persons who really worked on a movie set (I'm far from being the only one, and me, well I probably will never work again there), but their voice is lost because instead we have to deal with know-it-all who seem to believe that everything they hear on Blu-Ray extras is true. Remove your pink glasses...

  • edited August 2014 Posts: 17,241
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    A new article in Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, shares some news about possible filming in Norway:
    http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/08/02/kultur/film/james_bond/34592989/

    To sum up the article, the Australian filmmaker Jason Roberts, currently living on Svalbard, confirmed to the newspaper that the Bond producers were considering the island group as a possible filming location. They requested image material, but later chose to use the Austrian alps.

    Roberts tells that the producers were looking for a location fitting Svalbard, but recent script changes (Purvis and Wade?), made Svalbard unsuitable.

    I'd like to know what changes and why they make Norway a no-go. Austria seems to be firming up, which is great, as long as good use is made of the snow.

    No further information about why Norway was rejected is given in the article, but a second source tells that not all the scenes are confirmed for Austria, and that there's still work being done to get some filming in Norway.
  • The Austrian alps could either be in the opening sequence or the finale, that's my theory.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2014 Posts: 13,350
    Samuel001 wrote: »
    A new article in Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, shares some news about possible filming in Norway:
    http://www.dagbladet.no/2014/08/02/kultur/film/james_bond/34592989/

    To sum up the article, the Australian filmmaker Jason Roberts, currently living on Svalbard, confirmed to the newspaper that the Bond producers were considering the island group as a possible filming location. They requested image material, but later chose to use the Austrian alps.

    Roberts tells that the producers were looking for a location fitting Svalbard, but recent script changes (Purvis and Wade?), made Svalbard unsuitable.

    I'd like to know what changes and why they make Norway a no-go. Austria seems to be firming up, which is great, as long as good use is made of the snow.

    No further information about why Norway was rejected is given in the article, but a second source tells that not all the scenes are confirmed for Austria, and that there's still work being done to get some filming in Norway.

    Svalbard would be bloody freezing, so that may also have something to do with it. As a group of islands they're way up north. They may get a little done there, if only second unit work.

    At last, to us, things are starting to take shape. Now, what about Morocco?
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    Well? We will see the results next year! I always hope for an outstanding Bond movie. If it is another outstanding success? Which obviously i hope it is! Goodness knows what Logan's draft was like?
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    I can do without Morrocco, but it provides a nice contrast to the snowy landscape of Austria/ Scandinavia, etc. So does Italy.
    I'd still love some scenes filmed in Norway, even if not major. Hoping that can be arranged somehow.

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    So Austria is shaping up. Rather good :)
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 4,619
    Hoyte van Hontema's future is empty on IMDB, is that your "source" ?

    Is this a serious question? I was not simply speculating when i said Hoytema is the cinematographer of Bond 24.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I've read the other people really like him as a cinematographer; perhaps he would be a great choice.

    Sources? If you have sources and are privy to info, that's great and thanks for sharing. If you cannot name your sources, that is understandable. Shouldn't be something to get touchy about, really.
  • Posts: 5,745
    I've read the other people really like him as a cinematographer; perhaps he would be a great choice.

    Sources? If you have sources and are privy to info, that's great and thanks for sharing. If you cannot name your sources, that is understandable. Shouldn't be something to get touchy about, really.

    He has stated earlier he can not site his sources, but I know another member on the forum had also caught wind that Hoytema was primed for the DOP gig, so it's more than wishful thinking.

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Well, that is good (potential) news, right? :)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2014 Posts: 40,372
    I thought updates were being kept out of the title of the thread? I'm really trying to avoid everything I possibly can with this film.
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Well, that is good (potential) news, right? :)

    Very good (potential) news! :D

    Here's the other discussion from the 'Bond 24 Rumor Bin' thread (searching does work sometimes?):
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I believe Hoyte will be the cinimatographer as well perhaps pancho you and I share the same suit maker/source

    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    I'd be a lot more comfortable knowing what kind of source this was. Is it a friend of a friend of a guy or is it a directish link. No more details needed, just an idea of reliability.

    I can't say anything about my source but it seems like Risico007 too has heard that Hoytema will be the DOP and I am 99% sure we don't have the same source.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    AND ... Norway: perhaps they will film something there after all, so we cannot say it is entirely 100% scrapped yet. :)
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 9,737
    I am surpised Hoyte hasn't officially been metioned as I have heard it's 100% confirmed
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    I do want to know the cinematographer soon (I've said that countless times on many threads, I know). I just enjoyed Deakins work so much - I want another highly respected cinematographer. Official news would be great. I don't know why they would hold off telling us, unless the contract is not quite yet signed.
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