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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Troy wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    If the movie shows us the days in the Navy, it's already personal in some way.

    That’s not personal, that’s his career.

    It would be biographical. How can that not be personal?
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    Going off these last few pages it's quite clear that some people are hyping themselves up thinking we're going to be getting "The Craig era 2.0" - forgetting the fact that ALL the major players of the Craig era are now no longer associated with the series. BB and MGW are out - so are Purvis and Wade - and so is Craig himself. For better or worse these were the people responsible for the creative decisions made from 2006 - 2021. They have absolutely ZERO involvement with the new film - so why are we dismissing the new creatives and the new film when we know absolutely nothing about what kind of direction they wish to take? It's as if some people are purposefully hyping themselves up so that if heaven forbid the film actually isn't good they can sit there and feel validated.

    I'm not concerned with the production of Bond 26 - simply put I think Amazon put together a great team in place for now. I'd be much more worried about the long term health of the franchise under Amazon weather or not in 10-15 years time the property goes the way of Marvel and Star Wars and ends up being devalued because of too many spin-offs or unnecessary world building. I'm worried that Amazon will learn all the wrong lessons from Bond 26's success and will start pumping out films with the least amount of effort and creativity just to make a quick buck. The challenge isn't if Amazon are capable of making a good James Bond movie - it's can they maintain the series and if so for how long?

    Call me crazy, but I don't think they hired Villeneuve to make Brosnan 2.0.

    Should they? I would say yes to something like that.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I suppose the flip side to this is you simply can’t have any Bond era 2.0. Even a Force Awakens type Bond adventure wouldn’t be the same as the instalments it’s paying homage to.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    This is such a stupid conversation. They are not thinking at all about what's come before. Expecting something identifiably tied to a past actor is just not going to be fruitful. You should not want Brosnan 2.0, each tenure brings its own drama. That's the formula, reinvention, please don't drag me down with your childish nostalgia. I want to see this generation create their own Bond, that's the whole point of the survival of the franchise.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Well, I think it's impossible not to think about Bond's previous entries at all, at least to some degree. You can't reinvent something without thinking about what's come before.

    It's all there in what Knight has said - 'the same but different'. If that's the mentality they're going with, then I'm guessing they will have discussed what will make this Bond adventure a unique new take. Yes, with some reference to what's come before, but not indebted to it. It'll be a reinvention to whatever degree, but I think an effort will be made to understand what makes Bond films work, and even what made the recent ones work (or perhaps even not work).
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Well, I think it's impossible not to think about Bond's previous entries at all, at least to some degree. You can't reinvent something without thinking about what's come before.

    It's all there in what Knight has said - 'the same but different'. If that's the mentality they're going with, then I'm guessing they will have discussed what will make this Bond adventure a unique new take. Yes, with some reference to what's come before, but not indebted to it. It'll be a reinvention to whatever degree, but I think an effort will be made to understand what makes Bond films work, and even what made the recent ones work (or perhaps even not work).

    Of course. I hate having to spell out every last detail when I think it's obvious what I meant by reinvention.... I'm not denying a formula nor saying that they won't do some of the basic stuff. Don't be ridiculous. But they are not going to look to the 1990s for what to do today. They will capture the timeless elements, but it will be in a new lens free of the shackles of any past Bond actor's tropes.
  • James_StJohnSmytheJames_StJohnSmythe Twitter: @J_StJS /// https://www.instagram.com/james_st_john_smythe/
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    DoubleOhnoo wrote: »
    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/11/11/dune-part-3-wraps-production
    The production of dune 3 has wrapped

    Is it likely that this just means that the filming is finished? "Wraps Production" sounds to me like the film is completely done and could theoretically hit theaters next week?! However, for a film like Dune 3, the special effects alone will take many more months to complete, as far as I can tell.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Well, I think it's impossible not to think about Bond's previous entries at all, at least to some degree. You can't reinvent something without thinking about what's come before.

    It's all there in what Knight has said - 'the same but different'. If that's the mentality they're going with, then I'm guessing they will have discussed what will make this Bond adventure a unique new take. Yes, with some reference to what's come before, but not indebted to it. It'll be a reinvention to whatever degree, but I think an effort will be made to understand what makes Bond films work, and even what made the recent ones work (or perhaps even not work).

    Of course. I hate having to spell out every last detail when I think it's obvious what I meant by reinvention.... I'm not denying a formula nor saying that they won't do some of the basic stuff. Don't be ridiculous. But they are not going to look to the 1990s for what to do today. They will capture the timeless elements, but it will be in a new lens free of the shackles of any past Bond actor's tropes.

    Wasn't trying to be pedantic, no insult intended :) Yes, I have a difficult time believing they'd be completely indebted to films from the 1990s for what to do today. Or even the last five films, although again I can believe they'd have had conversations involving previous films (I imagine Amy Pascal would have something to say about SP's pre-production process and maybe what to avoid! Possibly anyway, who knows?)
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Even EON have looked back at their own films. It's hard to imagine Amazon not looking at previous Bond films, as they make Bond 26. It's more like...while Bond 26 would be its own thing, it definitely would remind us of a previous Bond film/films. I believe CR was compared to OHMSS & LTK when it came out, yet CR still felt freshed.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    James_StJohnSmythe wrote: »
    DoubleOhnoo wrote: »
    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/11/11/dune-part-3-wraps-production
    The production of dune 3 has wrapped

    Is it likely that this just means that the filming is finished? "Wraps Production" sounds to me like the film is completely done and could theoretically hit theaters next week?! However, for a film like Dune 3, the special effects alone will take many more months to complete, as far as I can tell.

    They wrapped filming. It is wrong to report that "production" has wrapped. So you're right.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I imagine Knight and Villeneuve will be revisiting Fleming and have thought about their favourite Bond films. Not only that though but they’ll think about other films, perhaps books, visual references like art, or even real life stories that they think influential or relevant for the story and vision of this film in some way. I’m sure this makes up at least a portion of their supposed 9 hour conversation! I would hope and suspect it’s a far more organic process of developing this story and vision for Bond rather than ‘let’s make x era 2.0’.

    I don’t know, an example of how Villeneuve might well go about thinking about this film at some point might be, ‘the first two Bond films have this Hitchcockian approach to their direction which we all love on the team and hasn’t quite been seen again in the series. How would that style look in our new modern Bond adventure? We could do x or y to really evoke that’ etc. Very hypothetical and vague example, but that’s closer to the method of developing this film.

    But yeah, it’ll be fascinating seeing how they reinterpret Bond. I’m sure there’ll be surprises too.
  • MalloryMallory Rules Reastaurant
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    James_StJohnSmythe wrote: »
    DoubleOhnoo wrote: »
    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/11/11/dune-part-3-wraps-production
    The production of dune 3 has wrapped

    Is it likely that this just means that the filming is finished? "Wraps Production" sounds to me like the film is completely done and could theoretically hit theaters next week?! However, for a film like Dune 3, the special effects alone will take many more months to complete, as far as I can tell.

    They wrapped filming. It is wrong to report that "production" has wrapped. So you're right.

    Production is the correct term - i.e. the actual shooting of the film.

    https://www.nyfa.edu/student-resources/7-stages-film-production/
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    James_StJohnSmythe wrote: »
    DoubleOhnoo wrote: »
    https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/11/11/dune-part-3-wraps-production
    The production of dune 3 has wrapped

    Is it likely that this just means that the filming is finished? "Wraps Production" sounds to me like the film is completely done and could theoretically hit theaters next week?! However, for a film like Dune 3, the special effects alone will take many more months to complete, as far as I can tell.

    They wrapped filming. It is wrong to report that "production" has wrapped. So you're right.

    When items like CG work, color grading and editing get done, that period is known as post-production. "Production" is almost always referring to the actual filming portion of the process.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 4:22pm Posts: 2,992
    In a nutshell, Dune 3 has entered post-production.
  • dewiparrydewiparry
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    And shot on film as well as digital - that's a lot of post-production.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    Also keep in mind that post production on big, tentpool films like Dune can be a very long process itself.
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